martinezsvsu 240 Report post Posted March 30, 2013 trade white for burmistrov Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kipwinger 8,524 Report post Posted March 30, 2013 Filppula and (something) for Vanek? Rather see Vanek here than Gaborik as far as top 6 forwards go. The Sabres aren't likely to trade for Flip because they aren't making the playoffs, so a rental player has absolutely no value to them. I like Vanek, but you'd have to give them something else for sure. Conversely, Flip might have value to the Rangers as it looks like they'll sneak into the playoffs and could use the rental. 1 haroldsnepsts reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
esteef 2,679 Report post Posted March 30, 2013 This is correct. Also, TheFourthPeriod.com is reporting that Holland has been "very" active on the phones and he's seeking a top pairing d-man, a top six winger, and a depth forward. Take that for what it's worth. http://www.thefourthperiod.com/news/det130329a.html Cola, Sammy and Helm. esteef 1 kipwinger reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
St. Michael (the Red Wing) 422 Report post Posted March 30, 2013 (edited) The Sabres aren't likely to trade for Flip because they aren't making the playoffs, so a rental player has absolutely no value to them. I like Vanek, but you'd have to give them something else for sure. Conversely, Flip might have value to the Rangers as it looks like they'll sneak into the playoffs and could use the rental. What would happen though if either of those teams could sign Filppula as part of the deal? Then Filppula might not be just a rental? And unless Buffalo does have a firesale I don't really see them trading Vanek. However I'm big on Vanek just as a player. He could fit nicely into our top 6. Edited March 30, 2013 by St. Michael (the Red Wing) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Franzine 739 Report post Posted March 30, 2013 Franzen is what he is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kipwinger 8,524 Report post Posted March 30, 2013 (edited) What would happen though if either of those teams could sign Filppula as part of the deal? Then Filppula might not be just a rental? And unless Buffalo does have a firesale I don't really see them trading Vanek. However I'm big on Vanek just as a player. He could fit nicely into our top 6. I mean anything's possible, but given their position in the standings I'm assuming that Buffalo wants picks or NHL ready prospects before they want an upcoming UFA. I definitely think Vanek could be had, it would just cost a lot and might not be worth it, as good as he is. I think Pominville is probably the more cost effective option if you're going to trade with Buffalo, and while he's a real good player, he's not as much a pure finisher as Vanek is. And I definitely want a pure goal scorer. Something that will bury those beautiful Datsyuk set ups. Vanek is that, so is Gaborik, Pominville...maybe, but a significant step down as a scorer. Edit: One reason I like Gaborik over Vanek is because he's exactly the type of player I hope Brunner will become. He'd be a great example for Damien in terms of learning how to use that speed and shot effectively (and consistently) in the tighter checking, faster, NHL game. Cola, Sammy and Helm. esteef Probably. Edited March 30, 2013 by kipwinger 1 St. Michael (the Red Wing) reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
beachwing 426 Report post Posted March 30, 2013 I need more scoring... i gotta have more scoring... 1 kipwinger reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Buppy 1,720 Report post Posted March 30, 2013 .... However I'm big on Vanek just as a player. He could fit nicely into our top 6. Yeah, he's hurt. He'd fit right in. 3 GoWings1905, derblaueClaus and St. Michael (the Red Wing) reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carman 387 Report post Posted March 30, 2013 I need more scoring... i gotta have more scoring... A good defense can lead to a quick transition and more scoring. Is it just me or does it seem like the Wings give up way more odd man rushes than they have? I'd agree though, our defensive depth should be good enough. Our forwards just aren't cutting it right now, injuries have a lot to do with it, but it's still something that should be fixed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dirtydangles 1,328 Report post Posted March 30, 2013 My bet is he is targetting Gaborik and Bouwmeester/Yandle. Doubt he gets both a top dman and a top forward though. O'Rielly would be great but would have to wait a year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,794 Report post Posted March 30, 2013 This is correct. Also, TheFourthPeriod.com is reporting that Holland has been "very" active on the phones and he's seeking a top pairing d-man, a top six winger, and a depth forward. Take that for what it's worth. http://www.thefourthperiod.com/news/det130329a.html How do they know? Are they tapping the GM's phones? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kipwinger 8,524 Report post Posted March 30, 2013 How do they know? Are they tapping the GM's phones? Which is why I said, "for what it's worth". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Number19 159 Report post Posted March 30, 2013 Let's not get crazy here. We still got Sammy coming back from injury. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,794 Report post Posted March 30, 2013 Let's not get crazy here. We still got Sammy coming back from injury. Maybe that's who Holland was calling on the phone. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Crymson Report post Posted March 30, 2013 Maybe that's who Holland was calling on the phone. I'll give you one point for funniness. I would not mind Gaborik were the price right. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dominator2005 558 Report post Posted March 30, 2013 If Kenny can't get a big RH def like Bogosian or Byfuglien then he shouldn't trade for JBO... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carman 387 Report post Posted March 30, 2013 Byfuglien Now that would be interesting. He would probably cost a ton though...; But he would be an interesting fit. Definitely help offensively, and physically. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,794 Report post Posted March 30, 2013 I'll give you one point for funniness. I would not mind Gaborik were the price right. It should be right. He hasn't had a good year and is mediocre in the playoffs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brett 1,029 Report post Posted March 30, 2013 gaborik for CHEAP. hes more streaky then franzen and isnt very clutch vanek sure i doubt he moves though hemski seem to always be available at the deadline. pass on him i dont think hes anything special clowe id take just for size and grit Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VM1138 1,921 Report post Posted March 30, 2013 This is correct. Also, TheFourthPeriod.com is reporting that Holland has been "very" active on the phones and he's seeking a top pairing d-man, a top six winger, and a depth forward. Take that for what it's worth. http://www.thefourthperiod.com/news/det130329a.html Don't see why we need a depth forward, unless we are trading away a few of our already numerous crew to gain that top scorer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dominator2005 558 Report post Posted March 30, 2013 Now that would be interesting. He would probably cost a ton though...; But he would be an interesting fit. Definitely help offensively, and physically. 1st, Ouellet, Nyquist or Tatar, Carlo or White, Emmerton Don't see why we need a depth forward, unless we are trading away a few of our already numerous crew to gain that top scorer. I think that Flip and Eaves could be traded Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carman 387 Report post Posted March 30, 2013 1st, Ouellet, Nyquist or Tatar, Carlo or White, Emmerton I'd do it. They might want more, I have no idea what their needs are though. But I think we can afford to let some prospects go. I really wouldn't touch Sproul, Mrazek, or Jarnkrok. And I wouldn't want to lose both Nyquist or Tatar. But everyone else I might be able to let go, especially for someone that can contribute for several more seasons. 1 Dominator2005 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dominator2005 558 Report post Posted March 30, 2013 I'd do it. They might want more, I have no idea what their needs are though. But I think we can afford to let some prospects go. I really wouldn't touch Sproul, Mrazek, or Jarnkrok. And I wouldn't want to lose both Nyquist or Tatar. But everyone else I might be able to let go, especially for someone that can contribute for several more seasons. I agree with you 100% Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kipwinger 8,524 Report post Posted March 31, 2013 Streaky? Right. They guy hasn't put up fewer than 20 goals since his rookie year (18) except in 08-09 when he had 13 goals and 10 assists in 17 games played. You can say a lot of things about Marian Gaborik, but any way you look at it the guy's an elite goal scorer. gaborik for CHEAP. hes more streaky then franzen and isnt very clutch 4 Z Winged Dangler, GoWings1905, unsaddleddonald and 1 other reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
unsaddleddonald 357 Report post Posted March 31, 2013 Streaky? Right. They guy hasn't put up fewer than 20 goals since his rookie year (18) except in 08-09 when he had 13 goals and 10 assists in 17 games played. You can say a lot of things about Marian Gaborik, but any way you look at it the guy's an elite goal scorer. Lol at any Red Wing fan who wouldn't want Gaborik on this team. 1 SaCkaveli20 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites