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#81 Datsyukian-Deke

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Posted 18 May 2013 - 08:29 PM

You can't really fault Holland for signing Franzen. He had an EPIC playoff run to the Cup, he was younger and a guy we drafted. He was very comparable to Hossa and you got him for cheaper. Sure we can sit back now and talk about what has transpired but I don't fault Holland for making that decision when he did.

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Posted 18 May 2013 - 08:37 PM

You can't really fault Holland for signing Franzen. He had an EPIC playoff run to the Cup, he was younger and a guy we drafted. He was very comparable to Hossa and you got him for cheaper. Sure we can sit back now and talk about what has transpired but I don't fault Holland for making that decision when he did.

 

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Posted 18 May 2013 - 08:38 PM

Because he did...

Well, that's a little misleading since what you're referring to is his cap hit.  He actually signed for $7.9m a year until his contract starts to back dive.  To get it to a manageable cap hit, the Blackhawks doubled the number of years at $1m at the back end of his contract that you'll find on Hank's & Mule's (4 vs 2) which takes him until he's 42.  Under the new CBA, that might come back & bite them in the ass as they'll have cap consequences now if he retires before the contract is up or they wind up with an ineffective 40+ year old Hossa playing on their 4th line a couple of seasons.



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Posted 18 May 2013 - 08:45 PM

Hossa 1 - Franzen 1.  All tied up



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Posted 18 May 2013 - 08:57 PM

Hossa 1 - Franzen 1.  All tied up

 

 

Dives:  Hossa 2 - Franzen 0



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Posted 18 May 2013 - 09:18 PM

Hossa > Franzen


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#87 Manny>Ozzie(by a long shot)

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Posted 18 May 2013 - 10:00 PM

Hossa has been a perennial under achiever in the playoffs. Mule always brings it in big games. Hossa may be the sexier name, but that's it.
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Posted 18 May 2013 - 10:04 PM

Hossa has been a perennial under achiever in the playoffs. Mule always brings it in big games. Hossa may be the sexier name, but that's it.

Use his first name Marian and all that sexiness goes away.


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Posted 18 May 2013 - 11:11 PM

Hossa regular season player.  Mule playoff player.  Take your pick.  



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Posted 19 May 2013 - 10:55 AM

Hossa 1 - Franzen 1.  All tied up

I really hope the Mule starts lighting it up here...That goal was great


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Posted 19 May 2013 - 11:31 AM

Hossa regular season player.  Mule playoff player.  Take your pick.  

 

You do know hossa is 5th in playoff points for active players right? Not too bad for a "regular season player".



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Posted 19 May 2013 - 11:42 AM

Hossa > Franzen

Hossa's salary > Franzen's salary



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Posted 19 May 2013 - 12:31 PM

In the end hossa plays for the hawks and franzen is a wing. Hossa doesn't bleed red and white therefore franzen is my selection.



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Posted 19 May 2013 - 01:16 PM

 
You do know hossa is 5th in playoff points for active players right? Not too bad for a "regular season player".


Most of those points were piled up years ago. What have you done for me lately? Hossa plays a good defensive game in the playoffs I guess, but he has been a bust for the most part in the playoffs.
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Posted 19 May 2013 - 02:28 PM

All it will take is Franzen not scoring for a couple of games, whether he is getting good chances or not fair/unfair, and people will probably be changing their tunes pretty quickly.



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Posted 19 May 2013 - 02:33 PM

Not Franzen's fault.

 

Not Holland's fault.

 

The fault lies with Jiri Hudler and Mikael Sameulsson. If Kenny had known that those two useless sacks of s*** weren't coming back, he could have contributed the funds he was planning to use on them to use on Hossa.  



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Posted 20 May 2013 - 11:46 PM

Funny that Franzen is a - 6 so far this playoffs.

 

I like Franzen still and I'm not a hater.

 

For the record I think the + and - stat is legit though.

 

Tells what good and bad things happen when your on the ice.



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Posted 21 May 2013 - 09:01 AM

Funny that Franzen is a - 6 so far this playoffs.
 
I like Franzen still and I'm not a hater.
 
For the record I think the + and - stat is legit though.
 
Tells what good and bad things happen when your on the ice.


My beef with Franzen is that he doesnt punish anyone. What good is 6'3 235 if you play like youre 5'10 180? Would be nice if our -6, 6'3 guy could smash Bickell's face in at the end of the game. I hate seeing the Wings take cheap shots with no retribution.

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Posted 21 May 2013 - 07:22 PM

My beef with Franzen is that he doesnt punish anyone. What good is 6'3 235 if you play like youre 5'10 180? Would be nice if our -6, 6'3 guy could smash Bickell's face in at the end of the game. I hate seeing the Wings take cheap shots with no retribution.

 

I agree but something is working for us.

 

So no complaints.

 

Also my beef is Franzen and Hossa are 2 different players.

 

Not even comparable unless you want to pin point scoring numbers.

 

Both drafted differently, grew up in different systems with different expectations.

 

Sh** Franzen was a third liner who exceeded expectations for us.







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