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#1 frankgrimes

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Posted 04 September 2013 - 02:22 PM

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It's a f....cking shame the guy is making than 90 % of the players, responsible for failed franchises, 3 lockouts in a row and the reason teams like this can't ice the best possible roster. How can owners justify around 270k/franchise for this guy? Absolutely hilarious, give a hockeyguy the job!


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Posted 04 September 2013 - 02:44 PM

Maybe a hockey guy would do a bad job in their mind? They do choose to pay him that ~$270K per franchise, after all. Maybe the owners know better? The players (via the competition commitee) and former players (Shanahan/Campbell) are responsible for most of the negative changes most people complain about. Bettman isn't God; his powers are limited.

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Posted 04 September 2013 - 03:33 PM

Because NHL profits as a whole are steadily increasing. Bettman makes relatively little compared to other sports commissioners.

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Posted 04 September 2013 - 03:38 PM

Much as I begrudge him every penny, Bettman is a rank amateur when it comes to lining his pockets with his sports money.  Sepp Blatter and Bernie Ecclestone wouldn't bother getting out of bed for $8.3M


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Posted 04 September 2013 - 03:50 PM

Oh boy this topic/thread isn't going to turn into a turdfest at all will it.

 

I guess folks still don't get he is mostly just a figurehead of the owners and like chunky said above he is probably not even the one wanting/making the changes that some hate so much.


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Posted 04 September 2013 - 04:00 PM

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Posted 04 September 2013 - 04:07 PM

Because NHL profits as a whole are steadily increasing. Bettman makes relatively little compared to other sports commissioners.

 

Exactly. David Stern (NBA) made $20m last season, and Budd Selig (MLB) earned only marginally less than that. Roger Goodell (NFL) took home upward of $11m.


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Posted 04 September 2013 - 05:54 PM

Who cares about Stern (NBA), Selig (MLB) or Goddell (NFL) this thread is about hockey and when it comes to hockey he is overpaid. 3 lockouts are unexcuseable, making more than the product people actually want to watch is just pure nuts. There is also a reason, why commissioners are getting boo'ed so much they are bad for the sport and leagues would be better off without them.

 

Guess what a hockeyguy would cost less, not trash the sport with his growing the game crap AND actually be welcomed when he presents the Stanley Cup.

 

Can't believe people are still defending the guy, who has cost us one year of Datsyuk, Zetterberg, Yzerman and a prime Lidström.


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Posted 04 September 2013 - 06:03 PM

20 million + would be absurd. Getting an additional $300,000 per year doesn't bother me regardless of my feelings about him. 


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Posted 04 September 2013 - 06:03 PM

i realize that fans hate bettman and he isnt as bad as we try to make him sound. i also get that his salary is not exorbitant compared to other sport commishes and other executives in charge or similarly sized entities, but i do keep falling back on something...

 

one of the main talking points of this last lockout was that a vast majority of teams are losing money each year. so is bettman really doing that good of a job as commissioner if most of the teams actually are losing money each year? sure, i get revenues are up. but revenues are up for all sports. so i kind of wonder if bettman really is doing that great even from the business side. cause we all know how terrible he is doing from the pr side... 


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Posted 04 September 2013 - 07:12 PM

That's the bad news.

The worse news: we get full seasons of him, until the next lockout.


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Posted 04 September 2013 - 07:56 PM

The twisted part is that we as hockey fans are so loyal that he gets away with these lockouts and earns raises. I wish I could boycott hockey... But like most of u that would require a 12 step program for me :/

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Posted 04 September 2013 - 10:26 PM

I can't believe that we still have people blaming everything on 1 man. Mind boggling how much hate you have for someone who doesn't make all the decisions and gets blamed for everything wrong and nothing that's right.


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Posted 04 September 2013 - 10:31 PM

I can't believe that we still have people blaming everything on 1 man. Mind boggling how much hate you have for someone who doesn't make all the decisions and gets blamed for everything wrong and nothing that's right.


Sure he's the represents the owners collectively, but there were 6 teams including Detroit that voted against the lockout. I just don't feel a lockout every 6 years is what's best for a sport that's not the most popular
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Posted 05 September 2013 - 12:31 AM

i realize that fans hate bettman and he isnt as bad as we try to make him sound. i also get that his salary is not exorbitant compared to other sport commishes and other executives in charge or similarly sized entities, but i do keep falling back on something...

 

one of the main talking points of this last lockout was that a vast majority of teams are losing money each year. so is bettman really doing that good of a job as commissioner if most of the teams actually are losing money each year? sure, i get revenues are up. but revenues are up for all sports. so i kind of wonder if bettman really is doing that great even from the business side. cause we all know how terrible he is doing from the pr side... 

 

To go back to my earlier point, if Bernie Ecclestone was in charge of the NHL, not only would the small teams be losing money the big teams would too, because Bernie would push up his fees for the "priviledge" of hosting an NHL team to such exorbitant levels that only the likes of Philly and NYR would be able to (just) cope.  When the likes of Phoenix started struggling, he would squeeze them for every last cent, then as soon as they went bust he would cast around for a new city to host the franchise and pay a nice fat fee.  He would own the TV rights.  He would own the TV company that made the TV pictures that the TV companies used.  He would own some of the arenas.  50% of ALL revenue would go straight to him before the teams even saw a cent.

 

The point being, that despite 3 lockouts, the dead puck era, and generally being a slimeball new york lawyer with small man syndrome - it could actually be a lot worse than Bettman.


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Posted 05 September 2013 - 02:54 AM

Who cares about Stern (NBA), Selig (MLB) or Goddell (NFL) this thread is about hockey and when it comes to hockey he is overpaid. 3 lockouts are unexcuseable, making more than the product people actually want to watch is just pure nuts. There is also a reason, why commissioners are getting boo'ed so much they are bad for the sport and leagues would be better off without them.

 

Guess what a hockeyguy would cost less, not trash the sport with his growing the game crap AND actually be welcomed when he presents the Stanley Cup.

 

Can't believe people are still defending the guy, who has cost us one year of Datsyuk, Zetterberg, Yzerman and a prime Lidström.

 

David Stern has resided over four lockouts.



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Posted 05 September 2013 - 06:53 AM

 

David Stern has resided over four lockouts.

 

Stern is NBA so why should I care about that?

 

Hockey suffered under Bettman pure and simple. I mean, there are cheaper and better options available the smart thing to do would be hiring one of these guys. I think Gretzky would be a great fit. 

 

Ecclestone is just an idiot, not even worth talking about him the F1 has gone downhill so fast it's not even funny.


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Posted 05 September 2013 - 09:33 AM

 

To go back to my earlier point, if Bernie Ecclestone was in charge of the NHL, not only would the small teams be losing money the big teams would too, because Bernie would push up his fees for the "priviledge" of hosting an NHL team to such exorbitant levels that only the likes of Philly and NYR would be able to (just) cope.  When the likes of Phoenix started struggling, he would squeeze them for every last cent, then as soon as they went bust he would cast around for a new city to host the franchise and pay a nice fat fee.  He would own the TV rights.  He would own the TV company that made the TV pictures that the TV companies used.  He would own some of the arenas.  50% of ALL revenue would go straight to him before the teams even saw a cent.

 

The point being, that despite 3 lockouts, the dead puck era, and generally being a slimeball new york lawyer with small man syndrome - it could actually be a lot worse than Bettman.

 

i'm pretty sure your point was that bettman isn't the worst choice for commisioner in the world, he's the SECOND worst choice!

 

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Posted 05 September 2013 - 09:36 AM

 

David Stern has resided over four lockouts.

 

1995 lockout ended before the season started.

 

1997 lockout ended before the season started

 

1999 lockout resulted in 50 game season

 

2011 lockout resulted in 66 game season

 

 

By that measure Stern is already doing a better job than Bettman, nevermind that basketball players have much more leverage in negotiations than hockey players due to the popularity of the sport. 

 

Either way though it's pretty much pick your poison.  Stern and Bettman used to work at the same law firm, Proskauer Rose.  That law firm represents management in labor negotiations for the NBA, NHL, NFL, and MLB, so get used to more lockouts.  It's not a coincidence the NBA and NHL have been using similar strategies and tactics.  



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Posted 05 September 2013 - 10:11 AM

 

1995 lockout ended before the season started.

 

1997 lockout ended before the season started

 

1999 lockout resulted in 50 game season

 

2011 lockout resulted in 66 game season

 

 

By that measure Stern is already doing a better job than Bettman, nevermind that basketball players have much more leverage in negotiations than hockey players due to the popularity of the sport. 

 

Either way though it's pretty much pick your poison.  Stern and Bettman used to work at the same law firm, Proskauer Rose.  That law firm represents management in labor negotiations for the NBA, NHL, NFL, and MLB, so get used to more lockouts.  It's not a coincidence the NBA and NHL have been using similar strategies and tactics.  

 

Fair enough. I probably should have done more research.







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