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10/5 GDT : Red Wings 1 at Bruins 4

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Are team sucks sorry they need to play better they need to get new lines trade for some better players.

If we had Brunner, and the ones we didn't sign are team would be better off. I know where only 3 games into the Season but #11 needs to get his act together and start playing better with the team we've got we should be able to score more then 5 goals a game instead of 1 to 3 goals a game. We've got the players to do it. They better start playing or welcome home are old 2003 team!

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First game I wasn't able to watch, and this happens.

Lesson learned. Won't happen again.

Really.*




*not really

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No, absolutely not. We had ONE BAD GAME! Jesus. You sure were not saying this after the first two games.

Hank looks like 08 Hank this year... the one that ALWAYS shot the puck and scored 40 goals for us. Why was he so good that year? Because he played with Pavs for a majority of that season. When they play together for long periods of time, they are the best line in hockey. This season Babs is able to do that because we have a solid amount of depth. The only problem is Babs is not playing the right players (IE Tatar and Nyquist). When Helm is back, here is the best lineup that will give the Red Wings the best chance to win, unquestionably.

Zetty- Dats-Abby

Franzen-Weiss- Alfie (They are still finding their game, and when they do will be one of the better 2nd lines in the league)

Nqyust-Anderson-Tatar (legit would be one of, if not the best 3rd lines in the league)... babcock simply must give in at some point, sooner rather than later.

Miller-Helm-Bert/Cleary

There are not many teams that are better than that lineup and, on another note, I notice hunger from our key players, something I have not seen much these past few seasons. Alfie for sure looks hungry out there... you can tell how badly he wants to win. Hank looks hungry. Pavs (tho off his game last nite) looks hungry.

Simply put, you dont just go and change the top 2 lines after 1 freakin loss because we have a very good team.

Great post, agree with you completely. Zetterberg is a GREAT center but he is looking like 08 zetterberg playing on the wing agian. Z has looked great! Dats on the other hand has been off. he hasn't looked good this season but its only 3 games... And Weiss also looks like crap but agian it's we are only 3 games in. I have lots of hope for this team. Nyquist should be up by the 20 game mark at the latest.

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I thought the second line looked really good for the first period of the first game, but then the whole team stopped playing after we got the lead. Nobody played good against Boston either, so I still have high hopes that the second line will come together.

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First game I wasn't able to watch, and this happens.

Lesson learned. Won't happen again.

Really.*

*not really

*shakes his fist in your general direction*

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I love the automatic panic mode around here just because we lost one game...

I already sold my season tickets and moved to Abu Dhabi.

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I wouldnt call it panic but clearly the lack of scoring and poor PP performance lately are starting to look familiar.

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I wouldnt call it panic but clearly the lack of scoring and poor PP performance lately are starting to look familiar.

The first pp unit is deadly, they just haven't buried any goals on the far too few powerplays they have gotten

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The first pp unit is deadly, they just haven't buried any goals on the far too few powerplays they have gotten

Didnt look very deadly to me vs Boston. Detroit could not even keep it in the zone long enough to establish pressure. Yes it is still early but for how long can you use that excuse?

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So...they're not going to play Monster again this season?

Or...is he still injured? :eh:

Is he always injured?

I kind of wished Babs had put Petr in against Carolina and Jimmy, Boston.

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Didnt look very deadly to me vs Boston. Detroit could not even keep it in the zone long enough to establish pressure. Yes it is still early but for how long can you use that excuse?

The first two games it looked pretty deadly, so u would say this is the first game that I would use the excusebthat it's still early.

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Weiss a mediocre top six? Three games in. Way to give him a chance. Scoring the overtime winner isn't enough.

Yeah Weiss is a mediocre top six. Do you think he is above average "top 6?" Is he better than Richards and Jeff Carter from LA? How about Penguins number two center in Malkin, or Ryan Kesler, or Rangers top two centers in Stepan and Richards. Better than Chicago's second line players of Hossa and Sharp? What about the Sharks, Thornton, Couture, Pavelski, Burns, Havlat, Marleau? Where does Weiss rank on that list...

I'm not pulling my opinion from three games. You forget he scored 4 points in 17 games last season for a +/- of -13? Weiss hasn't looked anything close to a top six forward during all of preseason up to now. I have watched him every second and he hasn't even shown a glimpse of talent. He didn't make a single useful move the entire game he scored the OT winner, he happened to have a puck pop out right on his stick on a open net.

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Yeah Weiss is a mediocre top six. Do you think he is above average "top 6?" Is he better than Richards and Jeff Carter from LA? How about Penguins number two center in Malkin, or Ryan Kesler, or Rangers top two centers in Stepan and Richards. Better than Chicago's second line players of Hossa and Sharp? What about the Sharks, Thornton, Couture, Pavelski, Burns, Havlat, Marleau? Where does Weiss rank on that list...

I'm not pulling my opinion from three games. You forget he scored 4 points in 17 games last season for a +/- of -13? Weiss hasn't looked anything close to a top six forward during all of preseason up to now. I have watched him every second and he hasn't even shown a glimpse of talent. He didn't make a single useful move the entire game he scored the OT winner, he happened to have a puck pop out right on his stick on a open net.

Gotta be in the right spot to make that happen.

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I missed the game but Sammy was already a healthy scratch?

Terrific. This signing is turning out to be just as awful as I thought. Sammy on LTIR last season may turn out to be the most help he gave the Wings.

It doesn't bode well when you have a player who is 6'2" 218lbs, one of the few right handed shots on the team, can play on the PP, and you still scratch him against Boston.

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I missed the game but Sammy was already a healthy scratch?

Terrific. This signing is turning out to be just as awful as I thought. Sammy on LTIR last season may turn out to be the most help he gave the Wings.

It doesn't bode well when you scratch a player who is 6'2" 218lbs, one of the few right handed shots on the team, can play on the PP, and you still scratch him against Boston.

I get the feeling this was a "one-time experiment." Y'know, like, "Hey. Tatar. Score five goals in this game or it'll be the last game you play as a Wing." Because, come on, Babs and/or Holland love(s) Sammy to pieces. I mean, for all we know, Babs was just resting Sammy up, like Selanne.

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Yeah Weiss is a mediocre top six. Do you think he is above average "top 6?" Is he better than Richards and Jeff Carter from LA? How about Penguins number two center in Malkin, or Ryan Kesler, or Rangers top two centers in Stepan and Richards. Better than Chicago's second line players of Hossa and Sharp? What about the Sharks, Thornton, Couture, Pavelski, Burns, Havlat, Marleau? Where does Weiss rank on that list...

I'm not pulling my opinion from three games. You forget he scored 4 points in 17 games last season for a +/- of -13? Weiss hasn't looked anything close to a top six forward during all of preseason up to now. I have watched him every second and he hasn't even shown a glimpse of talent. He didn't make a single useful move the entire game he scored the OT winner, he happened to have a puck pop out right on his stick on a open net.

I'm sorry but you are flat out wrong here. He has crashed the net several times, held on to the puck in order to open up space, it isn't his fault if his linemates haven't yet been able to get into good scoring position to catch rebounds or empty net shots, alfie almost got one, but to say he has done nothing and hasn't showed he is capable of doing anything is wrong. Sure he hasn't been an all star but he has had some pretty damn good shifts, unfortunately it's a team game and you need someone there to bury your missed chances, he left some juicy rebounds and made some nice passes that should have been buried

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That's weird Euro twins. I watched every single second of all preseason and season but I somehow missed all that. What's especially ironic about it is that when I watch games I'm focused and don't have people around who would distract me. But what I saw was an in capability to handle the puck and slow down the play. I forgot everyone on this forum only judges stats and he happened to get a goal. This guy will be whopping boy of the season o this board. He won't produce more than filpulla. It's not his fault his linemates haven't produced for him? Alfredsson has looked great and the one who's victim of bad line mates. Franzen looks like he always does that's not going to change. He's going to score when he gets a chance, be a solid puck mover, but coast when he doesn't have the puck.

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Lets not forget he had 4 points last season either. I know you want to be optimistic but let's be realistic. 45 points at most if he doesn't play with Pav or Z. 50-55 absolute most if he does majority of season. No 60+ point potential that filpulla had. Let alone if filpulla had Alfie and Franzen on his line with Pav and Z together drawing big attention.

Filpulla could carry the play, enter the offensive zone clean, cycle the puck, create space for his line mates. What a great season he could have had here with the same circumstances we have now. Man especially with Alfie's shot.

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Lets not forget he had 4 points last season either. I know you want to be optimistic but let's be realistic. 45 points at most if he doesn't play with Pav or Z. 50-55 absolute most if he does majority of season. No 60+ point potential that filpulla had. Let alone if filpulla had Alfie and Franzen on his line with Pav and Z together drawing big attention.

Filpulla could carry the play, enter the offensive zone clean, cycle the puck, create space for his line mates. What a great season he could have had here with the same circumstances we have now. Man especially with Alfie's shot.

Way to early to judge. Give Weiss a chance..

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I get the feeling this was a "one-time experiment." Y'know, like, "Hey. Tatar. Score five goals in this game or it'll be the last game you play as a Wing." Because, come on, Babs and/or Holland love(s) Sammy to pieces. I mean, for all we know, Babs was just resting Sammy up, like Selanne.

Possibly.

Though in the 2 games he played, Sammy averaged 9 minutes. So even when he does play, Sammy is an old, overpaid 4th liner.

I kept hoping when he was actually healthy he'd prove me wrong and at least come close to earning his contract. But if the best he does is the 4th line, it looks like he could be a total waste of roster and cap space.

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Yeah Weiss is a mediocre top six. Do you think he is above average "top 6?" Is he better than Richards and Jeff Carter from LA? How about Penguins number two center in Malkin, or Ryan Kesler, or Rangers top two centers in Stepan and Richards. Better than Chicago's second line players of Hossa and Sharp? What about the Sharks, Thornton, Couture, Pavelski, Burns, Havlat, Marleau? Where does Weiss rank on that list...

I'm not pulling my opinion from three games. You forget he scored 4 points in 17 games last season for a +/- of -13? Weiss hasn't looked anything close to a top six forward during all of preseason up to now. I have watched him every second and he hasn't even shown a glimpse of talent. He didn't make a single useful move the entire game he scored the OT winner, he happened to have a puck pop out right on his stick on a open net.

Last year he was coming back from wrist surgery and played on a panthers team that finished last in the league and only won 12 games.

And to answer your first question. I don't know how good he is going to be. ITS BEEN 3 GAMES. Never really watched the Panthers... but from these 3 games and a bit of the pre-season he's looked pretty good to me. He can really skate.

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