GMRwings1983 8,789 Report post Posted December 9, 2013 I think he still has value. Was good playing with Z and D when we needed him there. Good shootout threat. And he'll be decently cheap. LOL. Kenny is that you? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ShanahanMan 473 Report post Posted December 9, 2013 (edited) Compliance buyout can't be done. Only eligible for players signed up to September 2012. Stuck with him. Edited December 9, 2013 by ShanahanMan Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dropkickshanahans 463 Report post Posted December 10, 2013 LOL. Kenny is that you? Well he did look better with Z and D than Abdelkader did. Boy, was I wrong about him being a top 6 player. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pucktividi 472 Report post Posted December 10, 2013 Was the big fan of the signing,but don't know wtf is going on with Weiss?I know he's playing for another team,under another system,blah,blah... but he looks out there like a rookie euro player and not like 29 years old veteran...completely lost in time and space. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
frankgrimes 1,836 Report post Posted December 10, 2013 Compliance buyout can't be done. Only eligible for players signed up to September 2012. Stuck with him. wow so the DetroitRedWings are stuck with him? Maybe the Vancouvercanucks would be interested for Higgin Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cnot19 191 Report post Posted December 10, 2013 I don't think there is anything wrong with Helm on the second line but he would need more fire power on the wings for it to be a good second line in the NHL. Helm is capable though. I think Babs is obsessed with keeping Dats and Z together because they have spoken about how much they like playing together. Which is all well and good but for the good of the team it makes more sense to have 2 legit lines. They probably said that because there wingers are often Bertuzzi, Abdelkader and Cleary which is ridiculous. These line are productive despite these players IMO I agree that he could be ok as a second line center, but would certainly need capable wingers Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Son of a Wing 1,644 Report post Posted December 10, 2013 wow so the DetroitRedWings are stuck with him? Maybe the Vancouvercanucks would be interested for Higgin Quit trolling Grimesy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
number9 3,297 Report post Posted December 10, 2013 LOL. Kenny is that you? On a 1 year deal, something like 1.5, I think he would be a great mentor for the youngens entering the bottom 6. He'd be a functional pp/so specialist, kinda like homer, minus the so in regards to homer Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,789 Report post Posted December 10, 2013 On a 1 year deal, something like 1.5, I think he would be a great mentor for the youngens entering the bottom 6. He'd be a functional pp/so specialist, kinda like homer, minus the so in regards to homer Dude, the guy is 40 and always hurt now. He shouldn't even be on this team, because he makes us slower and older. That 1.5 million could go to a younger, hungrier forward in GR. We have enough mentors already. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
frankgrimes 1,836 Report post Posted December 10, 2013 Quit trolling Grimesy. How is looking at the needs from other teams + the current Weiss situation trolling? No team in the whole league would be happy paying a fourth liner almost 5 million annually. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spongewingredpants 75 Report post Posted December 10, 2013 its the Uwe Krupp reboot Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
number9 3,297 Report post Posted December 10, 2013 Dude, the guy is 40 and always hurt now. He shouldn't even be on this team, because he makes us slower and older. That 1.5 million could go to a younger, hungrier forward in GR. We have enough mentors already. With Cleary and Sammy going, I'm fine with keeping one of the more reliable vets around as a depth forward that can play on any line. Betting he retires though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
b.shanafan14 733 Report post Posted December 10, 2013 This is not a guy under-performing. If the conversation was "what's wrong with Weiss, through 25 games he only has 12 points", that would be one thing. In that situation, I could understand the excuses in terms of transition, poor linemates, etc. That isn't the case at all. He has 4 points. FOUR. A guy brought in with considerable dollars, to fill a considerable role, expected to play responsible, be a good team player.... blah blah blah. He was brought here to boost offense. He has 4 points. Some nights he looks like he MAYBE might be ready to possibly get his 5th point... but then doesn't. He isn't under-performing, his performance is non-existent. Bust with no hope of substantial turnaround. 3 GMRwings1983, frankgrimes and RedWang reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedWang 422 Report post Posted December 10, 2013 I do agree with many others in the sense that if weiss was at the 15-20 point mark like he should be wed be atop the easetern conference. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Son of a Wing 1,644 Report post Posted December 11, 2013 How is looking at the needs from other teams + the current Weiss situation trolling? No team in the whole league would be happy paying a fourth liner almost 5 million annually. Sorry, I was actually just referring to how you SpellTeamNamesWithNoSpaces and don't acknowledge anyone who brings it up. lol 1 Internet.Unknown reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jesusberg 1,256 Report post Posted December 11, 2013 While I agree that his play thus far has been beyond disappointing, I don't think it's time to call him a bust yet. Then again, I don't think I'd even call him a bust after a full season.Tonight could be a resurgence for the guy. Call me blindly optimistic, but I think he'll catch on sooner or later. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brett 1,029 Report post Posted December 11, 2013 can we give him back to florida? im done with him hes not trying the guy isnt doing anything to make his play any better. he dont hit he dont forecheck he stands still in the defensive zone. he dont carry the puck his passes are sloppy. he cant wait to get off the ice go make a hit at least 1 Cloune reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dirtydangles 1,328 Report post Posted December 11, 2013 In the defensive zone he stands around to accept a pass and then gets caught standing still with the puck. He needs to make himself available while on the move. Also just took out abby. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDCard 48 Report post Posted December 11, 2013 Weiss makes Villei Leino look like Darren Helm Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,789 Report post Posted December 11, 2013 Stephen Weiss 26 GP, 2 goals Cam Janssen 17GP, 3 goals Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wingfan1991 221 Report post Posted December 11, 2013 Weiss fing blows so bad it's really really unbelievable makes me sick Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
unsaddleddonald 357 Report post Posted December 11, 2013 It really is kind of bizarre how absolutely invisible he is out there. He LITERALLY doesn't make anything positive happen. Skate fast/hard? No. Pass well? No. Shoot (at all)? No. Watching him play, I cannot believe this guy has put up even 20 points in a season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest DeGraa55 Report post Posted December 11, 2013 Its funny. So many people were excited to get him lol. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Son of a Wing 1,644 Report post Posted December 11, 2013 Its funny. So many people were excited to get him lol. I don't really see why that's funny unless you take joy in the disappointment of others. lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest DeGraa55 Report post Posted December 11, 2013 I don't really see why that's funny unless you take joy in the disappointment of others. lol Well I was one of the very few who were against it. So many talked about how we will finish like 2-4 in the east. And Weiss will be more worth the money the fil and etc etc etc. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites