Guest Playmaker Report post Posted June 29, 2014 *hoping his wife isn't from Minnesota* 5 WingsAlways, wings4thecup06, DatsyukianDekes and 2 others reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DatsyukianDekes 2,428 Report post Posted June 29, 2014 Elliotte Friedman @FriedgeHNIC 2mFLA puts Jovanovski on buyout waivers Uh oh, please no Kenny! 1 evilmrt reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Datsyukian-Deke 722 Report post Posted June 29, 2014 I can live without picking up a top 6 forward this off season if Holland can make Erhoff and Niskanen happen. You can take a defensive core that's in shambles and completely solidify it in one off season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ekmanc 586 Report post Posted June 29, 2014 *hoping his wife isn't from Minnesota* According to her facebook she is very German Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Datsyukian-Deke 722 Report post Posted June 29, 2014 According to her facebook she is very German German-Minnesotian? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Playmaker Report post Posted June 29, 2014 Maybe Kenny can take her to Frankenmuth. Still rather have Niskanen due to age and RH shot, but it's nice that there's a really good consolation prize out there if the Wings miss out. 1 evilmrt reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sjr2012 439 Report post Posted June 29, 2014 (edited) I wont lie I wanted Christian Ehrhoff at the deadline but its so hard because niskanen has been on my list too its nice to possibly fight over two talent defensemen and it will be worth it in the end if we snag at least one of them i like our forward core but i wouldn't mind iglina if the price is right Edited June 29, 2014 by sjr2012 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Datsyukian-Deke 722 Report post Posted June 29, 2014 Question...if they are going to buy him out are they going to put him through waivers first? I'm not sure of his contract situation and if someone would pick him up before we even got a shot at him? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,803 Report post Posted June 29, 2014 No, they just don't like Germans. Especially left-handed ones. Holland won't sign another German after Krupp. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
10 Minute Misconduct 104 Report post Posted June 29, 2014 Still got my ehrhoff avi up from like 3 yrs ago GET IT DONE KENNY 1 derblaueClaus reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PavelValerievichDatsyuk 1,935 Report post Posted June 29, 2014 I don't get why so many seem to think this would be a better signing than Niskanen. Erhoff turns 32 in about a week. he isn't physical at all, average defensively, and hasn't been great offensively either. yes some of that is because of playing with Buff, but overall just average. he is at the age where he is just leaving what should have been the prime years of his career. Erhoff 32, 6-2/195 LHed, on a good team good for 35-40 points per season, going to make 5+ million and I am sure he is going to be looking for at least 4 years, maybe 5. Niskanen 27 6-0/210 RHed, on a good team good for 40+ points, strong in his own end, and going to be looking for 6 million on a max term-7 years. Now if we don't get Niskanen then going after erhoff makes some sense. he is an upgrade over quincy. But at this point he is clearly a second option. 1st of all - you clearly ignore Erhoff's 2 years in Vancouver where he scored 44 and 50 points. He got 38 this year on a very bad Sabres team. 2nd - are we really considering 32 too old? Niskanen also turns older this year (who would have thought?) so they're only 4 years apart. We don't even know how long we would sign them for. Erhoff clearly has the more proven track record. Niskanen's Right handedness is attractive. If we signed Erhoff we'd be counting on Marchenko or Sproul to be our RH Dman. This is getting exciting! Wonder if any other unexpected buyouts happen. 1 krsmith17 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chances14 229 Report post Posted June 29, 2014 I don't get why so many seem to think this would be a better signing than Niskanen. Erhoff turns 32 in about a week. he isn't physical at all, average defensively, and hasn't been great offensively either. yes some of that is because of playing with Buff, but overall just average. he is at the age where he is just leaving what should have been the prime years of his career. Erhoff 32, 6-2/195 LHed, on a good team good for 35-40 points per season, going to make 5+ million and I am sure he is going to be looking for at least 4 years, maybe 5. Niskanen 27 6-0/210 RHed, on a good team good for 40+ points, strong in his own end, and going to be looking for 6 million on a max term-7 years. Now if we don't get Niskanen then going after erhoff makes some sense. he is an upgrade over quincy. But at this point he is clearly a second option. erhoff is more proven than niskanen. even at his age, he has a good 5 years of good productivity left. But if anything, erhoff being put on the market should lower the cost of obtaining a top 4 dman Question...if they are going to buy him out are they going to put him through waivers first? I'm not sure of his contract situation and if someone would pick him up before we even got a shot at him? not sure how the waiver rules work but according to tsn he is now an unrestricted free agent 1 krsmith17 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Echolalia 2,961 Report post Posted June 29, 2014 I don't get why so many seem to think this would be a better signing than Niskanen. Erhoff turns 32 in about a week. he isn't physical at all, average defensively, and hasn't been great offensively either. yes some of that is because of playing with Buff, but overall just average. he is at the age where he is just leaving what should have been the prime years of his career. Erhoff 32, 6-2/195 LHed, on a good team good for 35-40 points per season, going to make 5+ million and I am sure he is going to be looking for at least 4 years, maybe 5. Niskanen 27 6-0/210 RHed, on a good team good for 40+ points, strong in his own end, and going to be looking for 6 million on a max term-7 years. Now if we don't get Niskanen then going after erhoff makes some sense. he is an upgrade over quincy. But at this point he is clearly a second option. The bottom line is we need a defensman who can get the puck out of our zone efficiently, has some offensive ability, and can run a powerplay. Erhoff is getting older (although I wouldn't say 32 is old these days), but he still provides the offense abilities that the Wings sorely lack. Niskanen does also, and he's younger, but he's also unproven, so I guess the question comes down to what you think the lower risk is: signing a long contract to someone who only had one successful year but younger, or signing a long contract to a proven commodity who is older. Frankly I want both of them. 3 derblaueClaus, sjr2012 and krsmith17 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sjr2012 439 Report post Posted June 29, 2014 The bottom line is we need a defensman who can get the puck out of our zone efficiently, has some offensive ability, and can run a powerplay. Erhoff is getting older (although I wouldn't say 32 is old these days), but he still provides the offense abilities that the Wings sorely lack. Niskanen does also, and he's younger, but he's also unproven, so I guess the question comes down to what you think the lower risk is: signing a long contract to someone who only had one successful year but younger, or signing a long contract to a proven commodity who is older. Frankly I want both of them. you win the internet this is the best option Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chances14 229 Report post Posted June 29, 2014 i have a better chance of winning the lottery than the wings getting both niskanen and erhoff Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nev 1,085 Report post Posted June 29, 2014 Wow, double pay day for Erhoff. He gets $12M over the next 14 years from the buyout, plus he's about to get another contract which will probably pay as much, if not more, than the contract he just got bought out from. AND he gets to go to a team of his choosing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Datsyukian-Deke 722 Report post Posted June 29, 2014 The Red Wings highly interested in Erhoff after being bought out... That didn't take long http://www.mlive.com/redwings/index.ssf/2014/06/red_wings_highly_interested_in.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
frankgrimes 1,836 Report post Posted June 29, 2014 Wow this came out of nowhere, if we don't get Niskanen Ehrhoff will be a good signing too. Guy really hit the jackpot with his last contract, there will be lots of interest in his services Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
number9 3,297 Report post Posted June 29, 2014 Things just got very interesting. Besides the RH shot Ehroff is the definition of what this team needs. 2 krsmith17 and STL-Wings reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
STL-Wings 36 Report post Posted June 29, 2014 For all that is holy...YES! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chances14 229 Report post Posted June 29, 2014 good piece on the erhoff buyout.I don't think erhoff wants to go to a bottom feeder team http://blogs.buffalonews.com/sabres/2014/06/tim-murray-to-buffalo-news-sabres-have-started-process-of-buying-out-christian-ehrhoff.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
10 Minute Misconduct 104 Report post Posted June 29, 2014 good piece on the erhoff buyout.I don't think erhoff wants to go to a bottom feeder team http://blogs.buffalonews.com/sabres/2014/06/tim-murray-to-buffalo-news-sabres-have-started-process-of-buying-out-christian-ehrhoff.html Wings arnt a "bottom feeder". 3 sjr2012, Dominator2005 and krsmith17 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sjr2012 439 Report post Posted June 29, 2014 man this is getting exciting who would have thought we would be raking our brains on two great defensemen Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
spongebob is a wings fan 18 Report post Posted June 29, 2014 I would love Nisk and Ehrhoff on our team get er done Kenny!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chances14 229 Report post Posted June 29, 2014 Wings arnt a "bottom feeder". i know. just pointing out teams like the islanders and panthers aren't going to be on his radar. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
