Euro_Twins 4,485 Report post Posted September 4, 2014 Thought this might be a good idea to discuss all the preseason hockey starting with this gem on nhl's site, gonna be a rough night for san jose and vancouver Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krsmith17 7,191 Report post Posted September 4, 2014 That's nothing out of the ordinary for preseason. Split squad games happen every year. Every team has 50 players to choose from so it's not hard to come up with two 23 man rosters to play two games in one night. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Euro_Twins 4,485 Report post Posted September 4, 2014 That's nothing out of the ordinary for preseason. Split squad games happen every year. Every team has 50 players to choose from so it's not hard to come up with two 23 man rosters to play two games in one night. Didn't think of it that way. Still pretty amusing Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest DeGraa55 Report post Posted September 4, 2014 That'd be a great way for some young kids to get some experience with and against some vets as I'm sure they're a few if both on each roster. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FireCaptain 563 Report post Posted September 5, 2014 Best "HOME AND HOME" series, EVER! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DickieDunn 2,571 Report post Posted September 6, 2014 Usually the lineups ate half guys who have spots and half prospects Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
evilmrt 636 Report post Posted September 6, 2014 That's nothing out of the ordinary for preseason. Split squad games happen every year. Every team has 50 players to choose from so it's not hard to come up with two 23 man rosters to play two games in one night. Yep, although I don't remember the Wings doing this with another NHL team, so perhaps this is the source of confusion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Euro_Twins 4,485 Report post Posted September 6, 2014 Yep, although I don't remember the Wings doing this with another NHL team, so perhaps this is the source of confusion. Either way it was just a bit amusing that they start two games in two countries within an hour and half. I wanted to start the thread mostly to discuss the preseason games, players, thoughts etc... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rick zombo 3,739 Report post Posted September 6, 2014 Rumor has it the Wings have extended a camp invite to Raphael Diaz. http://www.wingingitinmotown.com/2014/9/6/6113811/red-wings-rumors-raphael-diaz-getting-a-camp-invite Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krsmith17 7,191 Report post Posted September 6, 2014 I don't know much about this guy but I doubt he makes the team, even as weak as some people believe our defense to be. Diaz is on the smaller side for a defenseman at 5'11", 197 lbs, he does block quite a few shots, averaging about 2 per game and he is right handed. I'd still much rather see Marchenko make the team over Diaz, bigger, younger with more potential in my opinion. If we were able to trade Kindl for a pick however, I'd welcome this guy to show the Wings what he has to offer. 1 evilmrt reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
evilmrt 636 Report post Posted September 6, 2014 I don't know much about this guy but I doubt he makes the team, even as weak as some people believe our defense to be. Diaz is on the smaller side for a defenseman at 5'11", 197 lbs, he does block quite a few shots, averaging about 2 per game and he is right handed. I'd still much rather see Marchenko make the team over Diaz, bigger, younger with more potential in my opinion. If we were able to trade Kindl for a pick however, I'd welcome this guy to show the Wings what he has to offer. My thoughts exactly. Trading away Kindl and signing Diaz in his place, provided he has a great camp, would be an upgrade. A small upgrade, but this blue line needs anything it can get. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
under_par_00 45 Report post Posted September 6, 2014 Sign right-handed Diaz, waive Lashoff to GR. Give Kindl one more chance to fight with Diaz for the 6th/7th dman. Kenny needs to work the trade blocks with Kindl. Imagine if he can trade Kindl and a youngster for someone like Yandle? There are lots of potential call-ups for the 7th dman if Kindl is traded. How many points is Weiss going to put up this year? That is a huge question. The Red Wings offense has the potential to really improve this year IMO. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wings4thecup06 504 Report post Posted September 7, 2014 The only thing I have about this Diaz signing is, do we really need another borderline 4/5/6 D man guy when we've already got 4 guys in GR who are practically knocking on the door, and in most other teams would be rounding out the 3rd pairing? I'm all for improving the club, but it seems everyone here is automatically willing to give Diaz a job lest we forget though that he was traded twice and only played in 4 playoff games last year for the Rangers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mckinley25 679 Report post Posted September 7, 2014 The only thing I have about this Diaz signing is, do we really need another borderline 4/5/6 D man guy when we've already got 4 guys in GR who are practically knocking on the door, and in most other teams would be rounding out the 3rd pairing? I'm all for improving the club, but it seems everyone here is automatically willing to give Diaz a job lest we forget though that he was traded twice and only played in 4 playoff games last year for the Rangers. These tryouts are usually more about pushing the other players to work harder. Competition for jobs is a good thing. 1 krsmith17 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wings4thecup06 504 Report post Posted September 7, 2014 These tryouts are usually more about pushing the other players to work harder. Competition for jobs is a good thing. I agree. But I guess I would have preferred that competition to come from the 4+ D prospects we have, rather than another average NHL D man. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kipwinger 8,754 Report post Posted September 7, 2014 Diaz is the exact same player as Anton Stralman, one of the guys everyone wanted Holland to sign as a UFA. Diaz will come cheaper and do about the same things. I'm for it. Cut Kindl, or Lashoff, or whoever if the kid shows he can play. 1 krsmith17 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
frankgrimes 1,836 Report post Posted September 7, 2014 Don't know anything about this guy but you can never go wrong with a PTO and be it just to push the other guys 1 krsmith17 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kipwinger 8,754 Report post Posted September 8, 2014 Garrioch of the Ottawa Sun reporting that Brunner, Semin, Stafford, and Chris Stewart are all on the trade block at the moment. Any thoughts? Keeping in mind, of course, that teams can now retain up to 50% of a player's salary in a trade. http://www.ottawasun.com/2014/09/06/ottawa-senators-in-the-market-for-top-9-forward?token=a6f6ffb3f7280c952b2e844b025c59fd Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wings4thecup06 504 Report post Posted September 8, 2014 Garrioch of the Ottawa Sun reporting that Brunner, Semin, Stafford, and Chris Stewart are all on the trade block at the moment. Any thoughts? Keeping in mind, of course, that teams can now retain up to 50% of a player's salary in a trade. http://www.ottawasun.com/2014/09/06/ottawa-senators-in-the-market-for-top-9-forward?token=a6f6ffb3f7280c952b2e844b025c59fd No, No, Maybe and No Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krsmith17 7,191 Report post Posted September 8, 2014 I've wanted Alexander Semin on this team for years and I would still love to have him now. I don't want to hear all the s*** about his "shortcomings" and his "lack of defense" and his "lack of effort" and "if you think Franzen is lazy / streaky, you'll hate this guy", etc, etc... I love his game and he is exactly what this team needs in my opinion - a pure goal scorer and a right handed shot on the power-play. Imagine Semin on a line with Pav and Hank? Insane... As for the other three, I wouldn't be all that interested in any of them. It would definitely take a lot to get Semin away from Carolina but I would at least throw out an offer. I do still think we need to upgrade the defense before we do anything else with the offense, but I'd have to make a call on Semin for sure... 1 Lazerbeam reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kipwinger 8,754 Report post Posted September 8, 2014 I've wanted Alexander Semin on this team for years and I would still love to have him now. I don't want to hear all the s*** about his "shortcomings" and his "lack of defense" and his "lack of effort" and "if you think Franzen is lazy / streaky, you'll hate this guy", etc, etc... I love his game and he is exactly what this team needs in my opinion - a pure goal scorer and a right handed shot on the power-play. Imagine Semin on a line with Pav and Hank? Insane... As for the other three, I wouldn't be all that interested in any of them. It would definitely take a lot to get Semin away from Carolina but I would at least throw out an offer. I do still think we need to upgrade the defense before we do anything else with the offense, but I'd have to make a call on Semin for sure... They'd need to take back equal salary or else eat some of his current salary. I'm not paying Semin 7 million a year. But I'm certainly intrigued by the thought of him on Pav's wing. Most of the same criticisms that Semin gets were leveled against Gaborik before he got put with a big time center and started scoring like a monster. I don't know if it would work out the same way, but it's an intriguing thought. 1 krsmith17 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BottleOfSmoke 5,965 Report post Posted September 8, 2014 Please someone post the Semin fight gif where he forgets where he is and starts playing the bongos in some imaginary rasta band. PLEASE 2 13dangledangle and TheXym reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kipwinger 8,754 Report post Posted September 8, 2014 Please someone post the Semin fight gif where he forgets where he is and starts playing the bongos in some imaginary rasta band. PLEASE That fight slays me because the announcers are laughing and lamenting that they didn't have Colton Orr mic'd up for that game. It's not everyday that sportscasters openly mock players during play. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest DeGraa55 Report post Posted September 8, 2014 They'd need to take back equal salary or else eat some of his current salary. I'm not paying Semin 7 million a year. But I'm certainly intrigued by the thought of him on Pav's wing. Most of the same criticisms that Semin gets were leveled against Gaborik before he got put with a big time center and started scoring like a monster. I don't know if it would work out the same way, but it's an intriguing thought. Playing with dat I'll take semin at 7m over Franzen at 4m. But I would imagine Carolina woukd have to eat some salary the one year deal at 7m made sense but the extension was a tad much...6m makes more sense IMO. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
frankgrimes 1,836 Report post Posted September 8, 2014 Semin Alexander Semin? God no he is extremely talented but a lazy floater and doesn't have the right attitude plus he is heavily overpaid 1 wings4thecup06 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
