frankgrimes 1,836 Report post Posted June 29, 2015 Richards won't have to hire any lawyers, the nhlpa isnt going to let this die easily. Thanks yeah forget about that possibility too I mean this would set a very bad precedent. The Kings are legally obliged to pay him for the remaining years of his contract period. But man I just looked it up if they buy him out his the penalty would amount to 4,5 annually in the last two years wow. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
derblaueClaus 1,668 Report post Posted June 29, 2015 Lokk like a desperation move from LA at first glance but why try something you'll fail with for sure and damage your reputation at the same time ? There has to be something to it, Richards and NHLPA would call the bluff without a doubt if it is one. Or maybe I give the Kings organisation more credit than it deserves, who knows...... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nightfall 871 Report post Posted June 30, 2015 Lokk like a desperation move from LA at first glance but why try something you'll fail with for sure and damage your reputation at the same time ? There has to be something to it, Richards and NHLPA would call the bluff without a doubt if it is one. Or maybe I give the Kings organisation more credit than it deserves, who knows...... Nothing ventured nothing gained. LA obviously feels they have a chance, but I highly doubt that the NHLPA will just let this go away. There is too much money at stake. My bet is that Mike Richards wins out and he gets what is owed to him unless he was caught dealing drugs or something really bad that we don't know about yet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jimmyemeryhunter 2,747 Report post Posted June 30, 2015 (edited) It may just be because of his off ice training(or lack thereof) but we won't find out for sure until after its been decided. They're not going to be able to release the reasoning because of all the legal ramifications that come with accusations of public figures. If its something drug related/or the reasoning for terminating the contract is easily provable by the kings, then there will be no fight from the nhlpa in which case we may never hear the full extent of the reasoning. It should be interesting, either way, especially if they end up clearing his entire cap. I'd also be intrigued to find out if Weiss' contract could be terminated since he openly denied/hid his injury when we signed him. If we could get out of paying him because of that, that would come in handy if he continues to play like garbage. Edited June 30, 2015 by jimmyemeryhunter Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
frankgrimes 1,836 Report post Posted June 30, 2015 It may just be because of his off ice training(or lack thereof) but we won't find out for sure until after its been decided. They're not going to be able to release the reasoning because of all the legal ramifications that come with accusations of public figures. If its something drug related/or the reasoning for terminating the contract is easily provable by the kings, then there will be no fight from the nhlpa in which case we may never hear the full extent of the reasoning. It should be interesting, either way, especially if they end up clearing his entire cap. I'd also be intrigued to find out if Weiss' contract could be terminated since he openly denied/hid his injury when we signed him. If we could get out of paying him because of that, that would come in handy if he continues to play like garbage. Just listened to Macramella on TSN and he basically said, it will be near impossible for the Kings to pull this of. Other leagues I think it was the NFL and MLB have tried it and failed with all their attempts and according to him the problems were much more serious then this. Don't forget Richards is loaded with money so I'm sure he has his own "very nice" gym at one of his mansions. Personally I think the only chance they have if it's something extremely serious and I don't think Richards is a guy that would do something so outrageaus. I mean this is the same team that hasn't terminated the animal's contract yet and this guy beat up on his girlfriend and like I said Richards doesn't come of as a guy who would something more serious than this. But man if this ends up with the Kings losing the Kings reputation might take a huge hit. Wonder if they can settle this before the start of the pre-season games if not this might be a story for months to come. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VM1138 1,921 Report post Posted June 30, 2015 Rumor has it Brandon Saad might be further apart on a deal with the Blackhawks than previously thought. I think he'd be worth an offer sheet., he's an RFA, I believe. Anyone else agree? Oduya is also going to test free agency, but I don't think he's worth anything, really. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nightfall 871 Report post Posted June 30, 2015 Rumor has it Brandon Saad might be further apart on a deal with the Blackhawks than previously thought. I think he'd be worth an offer sheet., he's an RFA, I believe. Anyone else agree? Oduya is also going to test free agency, but I don't think he's worth anything, really. I wouldn't put an offer sheet in for him. He is a good player, but not worth the 3-4 number 1 draft picks we would lose to get him. 1 nyqvististhefuture reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
amato 3,210 Report post Posted June 30, 2015 (edited) I wouldn't put an offer sheet in for him. He is a good player, but not worth the 3-4 number 1 draft picks we would lose to get him. According to the new CBA, the only way we would lose over two first rounders is if he signed for around an $9.1 million cap hit or more. RFA compensation: $1,205,377 to $1,826,328 Third-round pick $1,826,328 to $3,652,659 Second-round pick $3,652,659 to $5,478,986 First- and third-round pick $5,478,986 to $7,305,316 First-, second-, and third-round pick $7,305,316 to $9,131,645 Two first-round picks and a second- and third-round pick $9,131,645 and above Four first-round picks https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Offer_sheet#Compensation Edited June 30, 2015 by amato Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
amato 3,210 Report post Posted June 30, 2015 Add another right handed d man to the free agent pool. Vancouver did not qualify rfa yannick Weber. http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2015/06/29/riley-nash-yannick-weber-among-those-without-qualifying-offers/ I don't know much about him but maybe we can sign him and switch him with Shea without anyone noticing Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VM1138 1,921 Report post Posted June 30, 2015 Saad is reportedly only asking for $4 million and Chicago is hesitant. Offer sheet him $5 and watch the Hawks squirm. What's that, two second round picks? Worth it. 1 Hockeymom1960 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
amato 3,210 Report post Posted June 30, 2015 Saad is reportedly only asking for $4 million and Chicago is hesitant. Offer sheet him $5 and watch the Hawks squirm. What's that, two second round picks? Worth it. A first and a third according to that wiki I put a couple posts up. I also found that same table on a couple other articles. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jesusberg 1,256 Report post Posted June 30, 2015 Red Wings don't have their 3rd next season. They'd need to re-acquire it from New Jersey. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nyqvististhefuture 1,002 Report post Posted June 30, 2015 I don't understand this brandon saad love ... The guy gets 2 20 goal seasons and people wanna throw 7+ million a year for him? Ÿou f***en kidding me? Dont get me wrong he's a good player but I wouldn't even give him 5 million right now as I believe this is his bridge contract? ... He should be happy with 4 per x3 We start giving 7+ for 20 goal scorers 30 goal guys will get 10 soon enough Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
amato 3,210 Report post Posted June 30, 2015 Where did someone say they'd give $7+ mill? Most I see on here is five. Am I missing something? 1 Hockeymom1960 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BottleOfSmoke 5,965 Report post Posted June 30, 2015 @MSmithCanes: #Canes have placed Alex Semin on unconditional waivers with intent of buying out his contract. Details → http://t.co/NI7A3R3tuy *plays bongos* Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 5,130 Report post Posted June 30, 2015 Alex Semin has been put on waivers for the intent of a buyout. Would Holland give him a call tomorrow or has Semin's ship sailed already? Could he find magic with The Magic Man? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Euro_Twins 4,485 Report post Posted June 30, 2015 I don't understand this brandon saad love ... The guy gets 2 20 goal seasons and people wanna throw 7+ million a year for him? ou f***en kidding me? Dont get me wrong he's a good player but I wouldn't even give him 5 million right now as I believe this is his bridge contract? ... He should be happy with 4 per x3 We start giving 7+ for 20 goal scorers 30 goal guys will get 10 soon enough Toews and Kane. Just saying Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
amato 3,210 Report post Posted June 30, 2015 I would offer Semin a low contract for a year or two. He might sign cheap since he'll still be getting paid by the canes & I don't think he'll get offers from too many teams. If he takes it, great. If not, no big deal.. That said, I bet he goes to the penguins real cheap for a year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nyqvististhefuture 1,002 Report post Posted June 30, 2015 (edited) Where did someone say they'd give $7+ mill? Most I see on here is five. Am I missing something?not here but i seen around online mentions of how teams could/should to pry him away from the hawks , on tv and radio as well ... McGuire I remember mentioned it once ... Kisses his ass nonstopAlso , sorry guys jumped the gun and posted a semin topic when I heard, feel free to take it down Just heard ... Bruins interested in bryan bickell lmao this keeps getting better and better Edited June 30, 2015 by nyqvististhefuture Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
amato 3,210 Report post Posted June 30, 2015 not here but i seen around online mentions of how teams could/should to pry him away from the hawks , on tv and radio as well ... McGuire I remember mentioned it once ... Kisses his ass nonstop Also , sorry guys jumped the gun and posted a semin topic when I heard, feel free to take it down Ah gotcha. I hadn't seen any of that. I don't think it'd even take that much to pry him away but I guess it depends on what trades they make. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Helmethead 235 Report post Posted June 30, 2015 Don Sweeney reminds me of Garth Snow when he first became Isles GM. Flying by the seat of his pants. No planning. I think Neely has something to do with the knee jerk GMing which is going on in Boston right now. I'm still shaking my head at the Hamilton trade. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kipwinger 8,756 Report post Posted June 30, 2015 I don't think Semin will go to the Pens. Rutherford is their GM now, and surely he's no fan of Semin after dealing with him in Carolina. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
amato 3,210 Report post Posted June 30, 2015 I don't think Semin will go to the Pens. Rutherford is their GM now, and surely he's no fan of Semin after dealing with him in Carolina. Fair point, I didn't think of that. Russia it is Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kipwinger 8,756 Report post Posted June 30, 2015 Brad Boyes to be bought out as well. Not as flashy as Semin, but Boyes has scored a ton of goals in the NHL as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kipwinger 8,756 Report post Posted June 30, 2015 (edited) What's your boy Stafford gonna get? $5 million plus per season? Hard to say. He's a valuable player, but I don't know if he's worth that. Winnipeg would have to dump some salary if that was the case. Then again, it is Winnipeg. Who wants to play there for too long? If he is looking for a shorter term, he might get 5 mil in salary. Edit: Well there you go, two years, 4.3 million. That's a pretty good deal actually. Edited June 30, 2015 by kipwinger Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
