LeftWinger 4,962 Report post Posted March 17, 2016 IMO, this should be the lines tonight... Larkin-Z-Abby AA-Datsyuk-Mantha Tatar-Sheahan-Jurco Helm-Richards-Glenn I sit Nyquist to send a message not only for him stealing money from the team, but that play the other night needs to be addressed in this manner. The D is a vortex of s***ty players right now. Can't bench them all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joesuffP 1,746 Report post Posted March 18, 2016 Zetterberg-Datsyuk-Mantha Larkin-AA-Abdelkader Nyquist-Sheahan-Tatar Rich-Glen-Helm Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DatsyukianDekes 2,428 Report post Posted March 18, 2016 Zetterberg-Datsyuk-Mantha Larkin-AA-Abdelkader Nyquist-Sheahan-Tatar Rich-Glen-Helm I switch Abby and Mantha. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 NerveDamage reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 4,962 Report post Posted March 18, 2016 AA is practicing on the 4th line today with Richards and Glendening. WTF is Blashill's problem? I am begining to hate this guy with each passing day. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sjr2012 439 Report post Posted March 18, 2016 Z Larkin Abby AA Dats Mantha Tats Shehan Jurco Helm Glen Richards Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kickazz 5,459 Report post Posted March 18, 2016 (edited) AA is practicing on the 4th line today with Richards and Glendening. WTF is Blashill's problem? I am begining to hate this guy with each passing day. Maybe he wants 4 scoring lines? I mean it would be nice if our players showed up to score the entire 60 minutes. Our offense is weaaaaak Edited March 18, 2016 by kickazz Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VM1138 1,921 Report post Posted March 18, 2016 Putting a scorer in each line unfortunately does not make each line a scoring line. It just reduces the ability of said scorer. 1 LeftWinger reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kickazz 5,459 Report post Posted March 18, 2016 (edited) Putting a scorer in each line unfortunately does not make each line a scoring line. It just reduces the ability of said scorer. The thing is the 4th line basically has two "scorers" now with Richards and AA - on paper at least. Glendening seems the odd one out of those two. I'm not sure exactly what Blash is doing but that's how I'm interpreting it. Edited March 18, 2016 by kickazz Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TripleS 46 Report post Posted March 18, 2016 According to MLive for Florida (http://www.mlive.com/redwings/index.ssf/2016/03/detroit_red_wings_notes_niklas_2.html#incart_river_index): Helm - Datsyuk - Mantha Abdelkader - Zetterberg - Larkin Nyquist - Sheahan - Tatar Athanasiou - Glendening - Richards Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kickazz 5,459 Report post Posted March 18, 2016 According to MLive for Florida (http://www.mlive.com/redwings/index.ssf/2016/03/detroit_red_wings_notes_niklas_2.html#incart_river_index): Helm - Datsyuk - Mantha Abdelkader - Zetterberg - Larkin Nyquist - Sheahan - Tatar Athanasiou - Glendening - Richards Those are 4 scoring lines on paper alright. Helm should be switched with AA. 4 LeftWinger, 13dangledangle, Aethernum and 1 other reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Buppy 1,720 Report post Posted March 19, 2016 Those are 4 scoring lines on paper alright. Helm should be switched with AA. Glendening and Richards should be switched with Jurco and Pulkkinen 2 13dangledangle and krsmith17 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DickieDunn 2,571 Report post Posted March 19, 2016 (edited) FFS Blashill is a mouth breathing moron. Helm shouldn't EVER be used on a scoring line Glendening and Richards should be switched with Jurco and PulkkinenRichards should be swapped with someone in Toledo Edited March 19, 2016 by DickieDunn Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
matt198913 932 Report post Posted March 19, 2016 4 for 31 on the PP since Feb 29th. Don't change a thing Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kickazz 5,459 Report post Posted March 19, 2016 Glendening and Richards should be switched with Jurco and Pulkkinen One of those combo swaps will likely happen next season. When Richards is gone. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joesuffP 1,746 Report post Posted March 19, 2016 Blashill doesn't trust the rookies defensive game Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
poel 28 Report post Posted March 19, 2016 (edited) Larkin, Datsyuk, Jurco Abdelkader, Zetterberg, Mantha Athanasiou, Richards, Pulkkinen Tatar, Sheahan, Glendening Play our best Centers in the middle, please. I also think that Nyquist deserves to be benched for a while. He's been nothing but terrible. Eurotwins NEED to play on the same PP-unit though: PP1: Kronwall, Pulkkinen, Zetterberg, Datsyuk, Mantha (net front) PP2: DeKeyser, Jurco, Larkin, Richards, Abdelkader (net front) Edited March 19, 2016 by poel Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aethernum 276 Report post Posted March 19, 2016 (edited) According to MLive for Florida (http://www.mlive.com/redwings/index.ssf/2016/03/detroit_red_wings_notes_niklas_2.html#incart_river_index): Helm - Datsyuk - Mantha Abdelkader - Zetterberg - Larkin Nyquist - Sheahan - Tatar Athanasiou - Glendening - Richards I actually really like these lines. I'm not sure about AA on the fourth line, but if Blashill is worried about his defensive game I would trust in that assessment. Bottom line, I think these are our 12 best guys to have on the ice. Maybe I'm the only one around here who thinks so, but I don't hate Richards. He hasn't scored much this year, but every goal he has scored has been timely: Goal One: 33 seconds left in 1st period against Nashville. Made the score 1-0. (Won 5-4 in OT) Goal Two: Few minutes into the second period against Buffalo. Made the score 1-0. (Lost 2-1) Goal Three: Unassisted, second of three goals to take lead against Calgary. Made the score 2-1 (Won 4-2) Goal Four: Halfway through first period against Buffalo. Made the score 1-0. (Won 4-3) Goal Five: Power Play goal halfway into first period against Islanders. Made score 1-0. (Won 4-2) Goal Six: Few minutes before end of second period against Ottawa. Made score 2-1. (Lost 3-2 in SO) Goal Seven: Game-winning goal with one minute remaining against Colorado. Made score 4-3. (Won 5-3). Goal Eight: Power Play goal in garbage time in the third period against Chicago. Made score 1-3. (Lost 5-2). Goal Nine: Game-tying goal with 30 seconds remaining against the Rangers. Made score 2-2. (Won 3-2 in OT). So every goal he scored with the exception of the one against Chicago either tied the game or gave us a lead. Half were the first goals of the game, which we all know is really important for this team. He's also got some game-winning/game-tying goals, and most of his goals are right at the beginning or ends of periods, which help with momentum. It's the exact same role he played in Chicago last year - not a primary goal-scorer, but definitely a supplementary type guy for your bottom six who chips in when we need it most. There's also the fact that outside of the 7 guys who seem to rotate in and out of our top six (Z, D, Larkin, Tatar, Nyquist, Abby, Helm) he's the next leading scorer. He's tied for 4th in +/- on the team. And he has the fewest penalty minutes of anyone who has played more than 30 games for us (fewest on the team except AA, Miller, and some AHL guys). I'm not saying he should have top line minutes or anything, but of our Bottom 6 guys, he might actually be my favorite. He seems to be responsible defensively with the puck, and he's the type of veteran guy that you want your new kids learning from. Good attitude, steps up his game when it matters most, plays two-way, error-free, smart hockey...he seems to me like a player whose game is ten times more complete than Jurco or Pulk. I'd put him in before either of those, for sure. Just my two cents. The lines outlined above are the ones I'd go with. Edit - Some people have also said to swap out Glendening. Now, I don't love how much Blashill uses Glendening, but do you know who the best faceoff guy is on this team? One hint: It's not Pavel Datsyuk. Edited March 19, 2016 by Aethernum 1 e_prime reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jesusberg 1,256 Report post Posted March 19, 2016 I don't mind the move, honestly. I'm not the biggest Helm fan, but it makes sense. He's not the ideal NFP, but he's one of the best guys on the team at getting to loose pucks around the net and creating issues for the oppositions defense. If he's around/behind the net jarring pucks free, it means Mantha's going to have more time to focus on getting open.At this point, AA is going to get the same amount of minutes wherever he's at. It has more to do with special teams than anything else. He strikes me as a guy who does less with more right now, anyway. 1 e_prime reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
e_prime 1,936 Report post Posted March 19, 2016 Solid post Aethernum. ...and don't worry, for all those bitching about where AA and Helm are slotted in... AA won't be on that fourth line for long. Blashill will swap those lines up so quickly we'll have forgotten what they originally looked like on paper. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DickieDunn 2,571 Report post Posted March 19, 2016 Solid post Aethernum. ...and don't worry, for all those bitching about where AA and Helm are slotted in... AA won't be on that fourth line for long. Blashill will swap those lines up so quickly we'll have forgotten what they originally looked like on paper. You're giving him way too much credit Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jesusberg 1,256 Report post Posted March 19, 2016 Guess they were just messing around in practice? The Wheel Deal @Bill_Roose 32s32 seconds ago The #RedWings lines in pregame: Abdelkader-Zetterberg-Larkin; Tatar-Datsyuk-Mantha; Nyquist-Sheahan-Athanasiou; Helm-Glendening-Richards. 1 krsmith17 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DickieDunn 2,571 Report post Posted March 19, 2016 Guess they were just messing around in practice? The Wheel Deal @Bill_Roose 32s32 seconds ago The #RedWings lines in pregame: Abdelkader-Zetterberg-Larkin; Tatar-Datsyuk-Mantha; Nyquist-Sheahan-Athanasiou; Helm-Glendening-Richards. Good 1 e_prime reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
e_prime 1,936 Report post Posted March 20, 2016 You're giving him way too much credit Oh right, I'm sorry, I'm supposed to be bitching and complaining about EVERY move our rookie head coach is making now that he's in the bigs. 'specially in practice. Good Glad to see you had a bright spot in your day today. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 4,962 Report post Posted March 21, 2016 Keeping with the theme that Abby is a top 3 player (debatable) I would still like to see this: Larkin - Z - Abby AA - Dats - Manth Nyquist - Sheahan - Tatar Helm - Richards - Glenny ...not dissing anyone with any kid of demotion, I would just love to see Dats with AA...plus AA and Mantha had great chemistry in GR. Doesn't mean it'll translate into the NHL, but I would like to see that line be experimented with. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DickieDunn 2,571 Report post Posted March 27, 2016 (edited) Datsyuk-Zetterberg-Abdelkader AA-Larkin-Mantha Jurco-Sheahan-Pulkkinen Helm-Glendeing-whoever Doesn't matter who you roll out on d they've all been crap Bench Richards, Tatar, and Nyquist for a game or two, rotate one of the three on the 4th line for those games, and play the kids more than 11 minutes a night, and tell Helm and Glendening if they aren't a pain in the ass on every shift they're not going to play another shift as a Red Wing. Live with the kids making mistakes or die with the vets playing like they don't care. Edited March 27, 2016 by DickieDunn Share this post Link to post Share on other sites