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10/30 GDT : Florida Panthers 5, at Red Wings 2

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57 minutes ago, Hockeymom1960 said:

He's played 2 games.

He played three (NYR, SJS, BOS) plus part of tonight's game. 

The team in front of him has only played one of those games.  So... yeah... GO AVERAGE JIMMY GO!

 

(if only to increase your trade value)

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1 hour ago, marcaractac said:

The difference here is Montreal fully backed Price regardless of how good Halak was. 

That's not the way I remember it at all. Halak played 35games 08-09, and 45 in 09-10 (more than half in his last year in MTL). Then in 10 Halak played through the playoffs though Price had played 3 full season in the league. They just played whoever was winning even though they knew the younger stud goalie would eventually take over. I think that's exactly what we should do. Mrazek will get his 60+ game seasons when he finds consistency, just like Price did.

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1 hour ago, marcaractac said:

The difference here is Montreal fully backed Price regardless of how good Halak was. 

Even if that was true (which I don't recall it being the case), the difference here is that we're a playoff team that wants to get into playoffs every year. They don't have a losing mentality, and management would probably never accept that way of thinking. They would rather win than force an inconsistent goalie to become consistent by playing him 70 games. 

Remember how Howard lost the starting goalie position? Because he was inconsistent. They played Mrazek instead.

Now I don't think Howard all of a sudden becomes a starting goalie, I just think they will continue to treat him as a reliable backup. 

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1 hour ago, wings_fanatic said:

Well you would lose playing howard over mrazek simply because his numbers are better in the 3 games hes played. Mrazek just came off an amazing game so for you to act like hes not been good lately shows me how much you really know. He wasnt great tonight sure but like it or not he is our starter. Having howard here still just gets in the way. By the way guys like lunquivst have been playing 70 games a year for most of their career. I cant wait til jimmy is off this team so the debate can end.

Not sure why so many here are so quick to point out how Mrazek should be our undisputed #1 netminder when clearly he's already had some inconsistent performances in this early 2016/2017 season.

One fine performance doesn't wash away the foul taste of a crappy performance that he had this evening...That's like saying a fine single malt scotch will wash away the flavor of a steaming hot turd sandwich...Just isn't gonna happen.

We're lucky to have both guys since neither one appears capable of handling 70 plus games as a true starter like King Henrik.

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13 minutes ago, wings_fanatic said:

I read a rumour boston is interested in howard hopefully it is true. Im so tired of these debates. Jimmy needs to go and that will be the end of that.

Source? 

IMO  The likelihood of Ken Holland trading Jimmy Howard to a division rival when Boston has nothing to offer us is very very very very slim.

Also, Rask is their ESTABLISHED starter.  Don't think they're concerned about their goaltending so much that they'd acquire a 5.3 million dollar backup.

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To me this game was as likely to be 7-1 as it was 5-2 which was the final score. A lot of flaws surfaced and we did not look good, I'd say we looked lower tier NHL on par with Arizona.

Hopefully it'll change, we have shown good play a few games prior. I'd actually prefer us being decently bad rather than this up-and-down. The next batch of games should tell us a little more about what's going on here. Perhaps.

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5 hours ago, Jacksoni said:

To me this game was as likely to be 7-1 as it was 5-2 which was the final score. A lot of flaws surfaced and we did not look good, I'd say we looked lower tier NHL on par with Arizona.

Hopefully it'll change, we have shown good play a few games prior. I'd actually prefer us being decently bad rather than this up-and-down. The next batch of games should tell us a little more about what's going on here. Perhaps.

I think a lot of people have already created a narrative and what actually happens in the short term means nothing. If they win another 6 in a row it will be a fluke, if they lose the majority of the next 6 people will say its reflective of the teams skill. Whatever people thought going into the season generally will stay the same especially when its a negative opinion.

Personally I will make my assessment closer to the half way point of the season as anything this early really means nothing. My gut tells me we are an above average team that will get third in our division or a WC spot.

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8 hours ago, kliq said:

I think a lot of people have already created a narrative and what actually happens in the short term means nothing. If they win another 6 in a row it will be a fluke, if they lose the majority of the next 6 people will say its reflective of the teams skill. Whatever people thought going into the season generally will stay the same especially when its a negative opinion.

Personally I will make my assessment closer to the half way point of the season as anything this early really means nothing. My gut tells me we are an above average team that will get third in our division or a WC spot.

I don't always agree with you but in this case you are spot on. As always I think it is too early for predictions of any sort. A losing streak followed by a winning one rince repeat is the mojo of an average team , so I'm not surprised. Depending on which side will prevail the Wings might make or miss the playoffs´. The only problem with that is if it's past trade deadline there won't anyone to sell and the Wings wouldrun the risk of playing themselves out of a good pick.

Looking at it this way makes watching games much less emotional attached and more enjoyable.

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