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4 hours ago, Echolalia said:

I wonder how quickly this kid will get to the NHL (assuming he does).  The idea of him and Mantha protecting the puck on the same team, potentially the same line is exciting to think about 

Well he'll play one more season in the W next year, and hopefully he rips it up (he should). He will then likely get a look in the playoffs with Grand Rapids (depending how Tri-City does next season). He will turn pro after that, and I would expect a season or two, depending how he adapts to the pro game. If all goes well, I hope we see him up full time by the half way point of the 2019-20 season...

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37 minutes ago, krsmith17 said:

Well he'll play one more season in the W next year, and hopefully he rips it up (he should). He will then likely get a look in the playoffs with Grand Rapids (depending how Tri-City does next season). He will turn pro after that, and I would expect a season or two, depending how he adapts to the pro game. If all goes well, I hope we see him up full time by the half way point of the 2019-20 season...

He has two more seasons in junior before he can go GR (aside from late season after TC is done), though that doesn't necessarily affect your timetable. 

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52 minutes ago, DickieDunn said:

I would if work let me bring my laptop in. I'm not even supposed to be on my phone moat of the time I post on here with Tapatalk.

Sent from my LGLS676 using Tapatalk
 

Love that dedication. Your hardcore man. I dont wanna tell you how many screens ive got on my work pc at this point :confused: Ive gotten soft. 

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7 hours ago, DickieDunn said:


Video didn't show up on Tapatalk


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Ah makes sense. Don't really know anything about tapatalk.. do links show up? The mobile site is pretty great also, if that works on your phone?

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Erik Karlsson Is A Garbage Pick

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"That's a garbage pick. They could have had him in the second round."

"Karlsson won't play in the NHL for a year or two or three, if he ever does. Real tough to get excited about him now."

"He was one of the five players the Senators had on their list, but apparently not the top one still available when it was their turn to pick."

Article from when Karlsson was drafted. Just wanted to illustrate how little we actually know about the draft or our own picks at this point in time. Many moaned about the Bertuzzi pick back when, and those fans are eating crow now, like this guy is eating crow on Karlsson. The Wings have shown that when they reach down the list for guys it's usually for good reason. I think this draft was a crap shoot, and that we might see guys from all over the board in the first round succeed and fail. I think the true reach was Lindstrom in the 2nd round. Hoping he turns into another Bertuzzi type pickup.

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5 minutes ago, ChristopherReevesLegs said:

Erik Karlsson Is A Garbage Pick

Article from when Karlsson was drafted. Just wanted to illustrate how little we actually know about the draft or our own picks at this point in time. Many moaned about the Bertuzzi pick back when, and those fans are eating crow now, like this guy is eating crow on Karlsson. The Wings have shown that when they reach down the list for guys it's usually for good reason. I think this draft was a crap shoot, and that we might see guys from all over the board in the first round succeed and fail. I think the true reach was Lindstrom in the 2nd round. Hoping he turns into another Bertuzzi type pickup.

I'm hoping he turns into another Lidstrom type pickup...

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2 hours ago, ChristopherReevesLegs said:

Erik Karlsson Is A Garbage Pick

Article from when Karlsson was drafted. Just wanted to illustrate how little we actually know about the draft or our own picks at this point in time. Many moaned about the Bertuzzi pick back when, and those fans are eating crow now, like this guy is eating crow on Karlsson. The Wings have shown that when they reach down the list for guys it's usually for good reason. I think this draft was a crap shoot, and that we might see guys from all over the board in the first round succeed and fail. I think the true reach was Lindstrom in the 2nd round. Hoping he turns into another Bertuzzi type pickup.

A lot of faith in a guy that isn't dominating in the AHL and has done nothing in the NHL. The problem with Bert isn't that we drafted him, its that he was a projected 5th round guy and we used a 2nd on him. We could have had Bert and another player like Fasching or Hayden, etc.....

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17 minutes ago, Richdg said:

A lot of faith in a guy that isn't dominating in the AHL and has done nothing in the NHL. The problem with Bert isn't that we drafted him, its that he was a projected 5th round guy and we used a 2nd on him. We could have had Bert and another player like Fasching or Hayden, etc.....

And here come the Bertuzzi haters lol...

Just because CSS or whoever had Bertuzzi projected as a 5th, doesn't mean the Wings or 29 other teams didn't have him a lot higher.

Hate to burst your bubble, but Fasching and Hayden haven't done much at all at the NHL level. Bertuzzi just carried his AHL team to a Calder Cup championship, won the Butterfield trophy as the leagues MVP, set a franchise record for playoff scoring, and is a much more rounded player than former AHL standouts like Pulkkinen.

Keep up that 2013 narrative while you have it though, you don't have much time until Bertuzzi makes the team full-time.

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4 hours ago, ChristopherReevesLegs said:

And here come the Bertuzzi haters lol...

Just because CSS or whoever had Bertuzzi projected as a 5th, doesn't mean the Wings or 29 other teams didn't have him a lot higher.

Hate to burst your bubble, but Fasching and Hayden haven't done much at all at the NHL level. Bertuzzi just carried his AHL team to a Calder Cup championship, won the Butterfield trophy as the leagues MVP, set a franchise record for playoff scoring, and is a much more rounded player than former AHL standouts like Pulkkinen.

Keep up that 2013 narrative while you have it though, you don't have much time until Bertuzzi makes the team full-time.

He is a checker. Nothing wrong with that. Every scouting site in the world had him as a 5th or lower. Many had him not getting drafted. Yes he plays great in the PO's. 3 years in a row. But during the regular season he hasn't been an offensive player. 25 goals in 120+ AHL games. He is a 4th liner in the NHL.

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7 minutes ago, Richdg said:

He is a checker. Nothing wrong with that. Every scouting site in the world had him as a 5th or lower. Many had him not getting drafted. Yes he plays great in the PO's. 3 years in a row. But during the regular season he hasn't been an offensive player. 25 goals in 120+ AHL games. He is a 4th liner in the NHL.

Yes, you are correct, he most likely will be a 4th line forward this fall at the age of 22. Making him the youngest player on the team behind only Larkin. Do you think he will remain there for the rest of his career?

Checker? Yeah he can check. He can also score. He's been a scorer at all levels. His first season after being drafted he posted over a point per game season. The next season he put up 98 pts in 68 games, including 43 goals. This last season in GR he looked much more adapted to the pro game and posted 37 pts in 48 games, including a record setting playoff run in scoring. But yeah... he's just a checker lol.

All those scouting sites you follow from behind your computer screen... Guess what? They were wrong. I know this may come as a shock to some people, but the Red Wings scouts ARE better and are privy to MORE information than whoever is compiling the 'reports and mock drafts' you are reading in your den. They took what they believed was the best player available despite your hand wringing and god bless em for it lol.

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On 6/24/2017 at 6:03 AM, Hairy Lime said:

When that pick came up I thought, Vilardi or Tippett? I wonder who Holland will take? And then he traded back and took Cholowski. No, wait? Listen, I don't know how this Rasmussen kid will pan out, hope for the best; but one thing is for sure, his career will be compared (at least around here) to Vilardi and Tippett from here on out, fair or not - no, totally fair. The same with Cholowski and Chychrun. And I don't know about you, but a future with Vilardi/Tippett and Chychrun is more tantalizing than the one with Rasmussen and Cholowski. But hey, I'll be more than happy to have my reservations and doubts proven unwarranted (I just don't think they will be). Sorry I can't be more optimistic. 

This guy? ah, you're crazy - with legs like this, he'll never amount to anything. 
 

 

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