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I hope Rasmussen wherever he plays has an outstanding year and makes me eat all the negative words I read and said about him.  He was one of the ones I didn't want us to draft mainly because of what Dr Dangles said.  We drafted him and now I'm 100% behind the decision.  I espeacialy liked it when the Wings said he was a great person.  I also like Lindstrom with the second pick. My top five choices for the second round were gone in the first six picks.  I hadn't heard of Gustav but I think now Hakan may have found us a good one.  The more I read about our picks I like all of them.  Ok I have to go now and clean my rose tinted glasses.

 

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On Sat Jul 08 2017 at 0:52 PM, Buppy said:

They lost 4 of their top 6 forwards. Owen Wilson probably has a decent shot at making the team.

That sand bagging son of a *****!

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I'm a little concerned that our top 10 pick isn't earning consistent time at his natural position in the World Juniors Summer Showcase.  Meanwhile, a number of his peers in this draft class are tearing it up.  Hope it's just lingering affects from his wrist injury and not because we drafted a dud.

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1 hour ago, kipwinger said:

I'm a little concerned that our top 10 pick isn't earning consistent time at his natural position in the World Juniors Summer Showcase.  Meanwhile, a number of his peers in this draft class are tearing it up.  Hope it's just lingering affects from his wrist injury and not because we drafted a dud.

During prospect camp he couldn't even participate in the scrimmage. I'd assume they don't want him taking too many faceoffs. When I read some of his scouting reports previously, I saw that he was the key faceoff taker on his teams he played on previously; so it could be injury still. 

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1 hour ago, kipwinger said:

I'm a little concerned that our top 10 pick isn't earning consistent time at his natural position in the World Juniors Summer Showcase.  Meanwhile, a number of his peers in this draft class are tearing it up.  Hope it's just lingering affects from his wrist injury and not because we drafted a dud.

Rasmussen was only medically cleared to play a game 2 weeks before the showcase and he hasn't played a game since January. I wouldn't be too worried about where or how much he plays at the showcase - he's just a guy getting back in game shape.

https://www.nhl.com/news/detroit-well-represented-at-world-juniors-camp/c-290569582

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1 hour ago, PavelValerievichDatsyuk said:

Rasmussen was only medically cleared to play a game 2 weeks before the showcase and he hasn't played a game since January. I wouldn't be too worried about where or how much he plays at the showcase - he's just a guy getting back in game shape.

https://www.nhl.com/news/detroit-well-represented-at-world-juniors-camp/c-290569582

Quite frankly I thought it was good that he was shining in the developmental camp drills even while he's been out of commission since January. Obviously the work ethic and personal conditioning strengths are there. Hockey wise none of us have really seen anything yet and probably won't see him at 100% until mid way through this season, may be even longer. 

It took Mantha an entire season to recover from the broken leg and actually perform at his personal level. Broken wrists are worse. I predict he won't make the AHL squad till the end of the season just as Cholowski didn't. And it won't be because he's not good enough, probably because he's not going to be 100% for a long time. Maybe he'll get some playoffs games with the Griffins. 

 

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21 minutes ago, kickazz said:

Quite frankly I thought it was good that he was shining in the developmental camp drills even while he's been out of commission since January. Obviously the work ethic and personal conditioning strengths are there. Hockey wise none of us have really seen anything yet and probably won't see him at 100% until mid way through this season, may be even longer. 

It took Mantha an entire season to recover from the broken leg and actually perform at his personal level. Broken wrists are worse. I predict he won't make the AHL squad till the end of the season just as Cholowski didn't. And it won't be because he's not good enough, probably because he's not going to be 100% for a long time. Maybe he'll get some playoffs games with the Griffins. 

I might be slightly off on the specifics, but I think there's an agreement between the NHL and the CHL, so that a prospect can't play in the AHL or ECHL until they're 20 years old or played 3 CHL seasons.

But, yeah, that would put Rasmussen's earliest time in the AHL as the playoffs after his season ends. I read somewhere that he's slated to be captain of his WHL team so It seems pretty certain he plays there.

I like the quotes I've read of Ras talking about stealing jobs and making the NHL this year, even if there's pretty much no chance that happens.

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5 hours ago, kipwinger said:

I'm a little concerned that our top 10 pick isn't earning consistent time at his natural position in the World Juniors Summer Showcase.  Meanwhile, a number of his peers in this draft class are tearing it up.  Hope it's just lingering affects from his wrist injury and not because we drafted a dud.

I'm not sure about a dud, because I think he may be one of the few you can say is a lock to actually make the NHL, but as far as ceiling, I still think it was somewhat of a dud pick. Rasmussen likely tops out as a 2nd line center, likely a middle 6 center / winger. It wasn't until the past few months that I've come around on the Cholowski pick though, so hopefully both have massive years this season and put up huge numbers in the W.

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4 minutes ago, LeftWinger said:

They're both signed to pro contracts, can they play in junior?

They're both slated to play junior (WHL). Cholowski will play with Prince George and Rasmussen will (again) play with Tri-City.

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Usually when a prospect signs an ELC, capfriendly lists them in the lower roster, Cholowski for example. Do you find it odd that they are listing Rasmussen on our main roster?

Just as an example too, when Larkin signed his ELC, they listed him on the main roster as well. Of course he never went down...are we going to see Rasmussen get a SERIOUS chance at the big team?

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47 minutes ago, LeftWinger said:

Usually when a prospect signs an ELC, capfriendly lists them in the lower roster, Cholowski for example. Do you find it odd that they are listing Rasmussen on our main roster?

Just as an example too, when Larkin signed his ELC, they listed him on the main roster as well. Of course he never went down...are we going to see Rasmussen get a SERIOUS chance at the big team?

I'm sure he'll be given a "shot", but no way he makes the team. Bertuzzi and Svechnikov are ahead of him for sure.

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1 hour ago, LeftWinger said:

Usually when a prospect signs an ELC, capfriendly lists them in the lower roster, Cholowski for example. Do you find it odd that they are listing Rasmussen on our main roster?

Just as an example too, when Larkin signed his ELC, they listed him on the main roster as well. Of course he never went down...are we going to see Rasmussen get a SERIOUS chance at the big team?

I did see that, but I doubt it. That would imply that someone in the Wings organization in the know told CapFriendly, which I just don't see happening.

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1 hour ago, krsmith17 said:

I'm sure he'll be given a "shot", but no way he makes the team. Bertuzzi and Svechnikov are ahead of him for sure.

Yes, but how many were ahead of Larkin. Then he came to camp and took the leap.

I, for one, would not be mad. I'd like to see our first top 10 in decades dominate and stay.

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31 minutes ago, LeftWinger said:

Yes, but how many were ahead of Larkin. Then he came to camp and took the leap.

I, for one, would not be mad. I'd like to see our first top 10 in decades dominate and stay.

I think we would all LOVE to see that, but I if he's no ready, he's not ready which I think is the case.

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