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As of this morning I think we would be drafting 7th if everything stayed as is.  If the first six picks were Nolan Patrick, Tim Liljegren, Nicholas Hague, Michael Rasmussen, Max Comtois, and Gabe Vilardi, who would you pick?  My choices would be Foote or Popugayev.

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I have no idea, I haven't even considered potential draftees for next year at this point, however, from what I've heard from the experts, the 2017 draft year looks pretty weak (take that with a grain of salt though, hard to project 17/18 year olds).

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2 hours ago, HoweFan said:

As of this morning I think we would be drafting 7th if everything stayed as is.  If the first six picks were Nolan Patrick, Tim Liljegren, Nicholas Hague, Michael Rasmussen, Max Comtois, and Gabe Vilardi, who would you pick?  My choices would be Foote or Popugayev.

Hey now, stealing my thunder? LOL. To early to even think about this. That being said, Foote is my 1st, 2nd, and 3rd choice.

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Yeah but once you get by is name it will be hard to ignore someone ho is 6:04 205 and is an excellent skater.  He has 33 points in 22 games in the WHL.  He may be a top five guy.

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23 hours ago, HoweFan said:

As of this morning I think we would be drafting 7th if everything stayed as is.  If the first six picks were Nolan Patrick, Tim Liljegren, Nicholas Hague, Michael Rasmussen, Max Comtois, and Gabe Vilardi, who would you pick?  My choices would be Foote or Popugayev.

 

Foote without question. Though I am definitely not ruling out this team ending up with a top 2 pick by the end. 

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56 minutes ago, marcaractac said:

Foote without question. Though I am definitely not ruling out this team ending up with a top 2 pick by the end. 

Neither am I, and I actually wouldn't be too upset with it tbh. I think a bad finish will finally tell KH that he can't get by with mediocre band aids to try and sneak into the playoffs, and instead that it's time for a few changes. I do fear however that if KH does a Dombrowski and sells off a few pending FA's for prospects he'll get fired by the Illitch crew and thus he won't do anything even if we're out of a playoff spot in february...

Maybe chance for a new era, what with moving to LCA next year. 

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22 minutes ago, wings4thecup06 said:

Neither am I, and I actually wouldn't be too upset with it tbh. I think a bad finish will finally tell KH that he can't get by with mediocre band aids to try and sneak into the playoffs, and instead that it's time for a few changes. I do fear however that if KH does a Dombrowski and sells off a few pending FA's for prospects he'll get fired by the Illitch crew and thus he won't do anything even if we're out of a playoff spot in february...

Maybe chance for a new era, what with moving to LCA next year. 

 

I'm in the same boat. As hard as it is to stomach, this team needs a bottom 5 finish. Badly. The pieces are there to turn it around fairly quickly, but the playoff streak ending and getting a high-end player from the draft are two things that need to happen to steer things in the right direction again. Once that streak ends, the franchise can finally stop having to live up to it. 

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Our luck is that the Wings will draft a handful of top 10 over the next 4 years, but none of them turn out...

19 minutes ago, marcaractac said:

I'm in the same boat. As hard as it is to stomach, this team needs a bottom 5 finish. Badly. The pieces are there to turn it around fairly quickly, but the playoff streak ending and getting a high-end player from the draft are two things that need to happen to steer things in the right direction again. Once that streak ends, the franchise can finally stop having to live up to it. 

Am I the only one who's surprised by what the Leafs had done these past few years regarding how well they've drafted?

Hoping if/when the wheels fall off the bus - the Wings can do the same.

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2 minutes ago, F.Michael said:

Our luck is that the Wings will draft a handful of top 10 over the next 4 years, but none of them turn out...

Am I the only one who's surprised by what the Leafs had done these past few years regarding how well they've drafted?

Hoping if/when the wheels fall off the bus - the Wings can do the same.

 

The Leafs have been stockpiling talent for a few years now, much like how we have been doing. They then added Marner and Mathews to the mix with a couple bad years, and are very much a team on the rise again. But they had to have the wheels fall off to get where they are now. So if it takes a bad year or two for us to get there, sign me up.

The playoffs aren't much fun when we're out in 5 games. We simply make the playoffs long enough to not get to draft high. The team has valuable pieces to move at the deadline. Vanek could probably net a first rounder as is if he keeps playing the way he has before he got hurt. Wouldn't be the first time a contender traded a first for a rental. 

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2 minutes ago, marcaractac said:

The Leafs have been stockpiling talent for a few years now, much like how we have been doing. They then added Marner and Mathews to the mix with a couple bad years, and are very much a team on the rise again. But they had to have the wheels fall off to get where they are now. So if it takes a bad year or two for us to get there, sign me up.

The playoffs aren't much fun when we're out in 5 games. We simply make the playoffs long enough to not get to draft high. The team has valuable pieces to move at the deadline. Vanek could probably net a first rounder as is if he keeps playing the way he has before he got hurt. Wouldn't be the first time a contender traded a first for a rental. 

I genuinely feel this won't happen though, even if it's obvious we're out of the playoff picture before the deadline. 

I never thought they'd fire Dombrowski (but they did) and when he traded away pending FA's Price, Cespedes etc for high end prospects which will definitely help them the next few years, I thought it was incredibly smart. But it ended with him losing his job. 

I get the feeling the same will happen with the Wings if KH did something similar. Trade Smith, Vanek, hell even Howard if he keeps playing this well. (Some here will argue KH should be long gone and it wouldn't be a bad thing). My point is that especially with the new building opening next year I don't think ownership will want to see the Wings as sellers or even missing the playoffs the year before it opens.....

If they do take that approach and don't sell and just sit and watch more players walk for free (and we lose Howard or Mrazek in the expansion draft - sod's law we'd lose Mrazek as they'd protect Howard) it'll hamper us some more I feel

 

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Just now, marcaractac said:

The Leafs have been stockpiling talent for a few years now, much like how we have been doing. They then added Marner and Mathews to the mix with a couple bad years, and are very much a team on the rise again. But they had to have the wheels fall off to get where they are now. So if it takes a bad year or two for us to get there, sign me up.

The playoffs aren't much fun when we're out in 5 games. We simply make the playoffs long enough to not get to draft high. The team has valuable pieces to move at the deadline. Vanek could probably net a first rounder as is if he keeps playing the way he has before he got hurt. Wouldn't be the first time a contender traded a first for a rental. 

Agreed...Detroit has lost it's shine as a place for UFA's, but as all know with the salary cap there's only so much $$$ to go around.

I just hope that if we do see the Wings drafting in the top 10 - their picks not only make the team, but become top notch talent.

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Still would be so weird to have Adam Foote's son be a Detroit Red Wing. That would mean Footie would have to cheer for the Wings and actually wear some gear! :lol:

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Who knows what they will pick, this is not the NFL where you are slotted in based on where you finish. 

I just did a mock draft and we got 6th, then I did it again and we got 2nd, then a third time and we got 1st.

http://nhllotterysimulator.com/ 

 

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I understand its not a guarantee but you put yourself in the best position to get a high pick by tanking. Plus finishing that bad will give the bonus prize of Blash certainly being fired.

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9 hours ago, GoalieManPat said:

Screw 7th. If you are not going to make the playoffs you are better up just sucking it up and getting a top 3. 

"Suck it up and suck!"

12 hours ago, LeftWinger said:

Still would be so weird to have Adam Foote's son be a Detroit Red Wing. That would mean Footie would have to cheer for the Wings and actually wear some gear! :lol:

Our ultimate revenge. >:}

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1 hour ago, HoweFan said:

If you had a choice between Foote and Hague, who do you take?

Nico Hischier, and then trade back up to get Filip Westerland in the late 1st. 

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Tank it, make a deal for TWO top defenders at the deadline, clear out other players for picks at the deadline. Get the lottery #1. Draft Nolan Patrick. Kronwall retires, lose Marchenko in the expansion draft. Re-sign Ott, and Vanek. Miller walks. Re-sign Jurco and AA.

With this lineup, there will ne no need to persue anyone on July 1, except re-signing Ott and Vanek.

 

The plan will be to draft Patrick and bring him in with the new Arena. So it is written. So it will be.

 

Here's my 23 man team to open the 2017-18 season and The LCA

Z - Larkin - Mantha

AA - Nielsen - Vanek

Jurco - Patrick - Abby

Sheahan - Glenny - Ott

Bertuzzi, Frk

 

Fowler - Hamilton

DD - Sproul

Ericsson - Green

Renouf

 

Mrazek

Coreau

 

Leave me alone, that's the ONLY way I will be ok with tanking...

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Speaking of drafts, it sucks with where the team is at this point that Holland basically traded one year of Dat's contract for Chychrun. He may as well have kept the money on the books and took him in the draft..things can't really get much worse from here.

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Hindsight for sure, but hey we'd be in the same boat with Stamkos. This is two years in a row now...he may be damaged goods. 

But, there is time this year to dump players and really load up for next era. If we can get Hamilton and Fowler, and as long as we can hang on to Sproul, we won't miss Chycrun too much. 

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5 minutes ago, LeftWinger said:

Hindsight for sure, but hey we'd be in the same boat with Stamkos. This is two years in a row now...he may be damaged goods. 

But, there is time this year to dump players and really load up for next era. If we can get Hamilton and Fowler, and as long as we can hang on to Sproul, we won't miss Chycrun too much. 

I want Hamilton, he was the best d man on the ice the other night against us.  Steady, calm, good puck mover.  I think Howard would've been possible trade bait to the Flames but we will let him play enough to suck and lose all his trade value.  Any 2 way combo of Hamilton/Fowler/Shattenkirk would be great but in my wildest dreams I want OEL.  

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I think with Burns signing for $8M cap, Shattenkirk is going to get way overpaid for my liking. If we could trade for Fowler and Hamilton at least their hot is much less for awhile. I'm afraid of what they're next contracts will be, but we'd worry about that then.

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1 hour ago, LeftWinger said:

Hindsight for sure, but hey we'd be in the same boat with Stamkos. This is two years in a row now...he may be damaged goods. 

But, there is time this year to dump players and really load up for next era. If we can get Hamilton and Fowler, and as long as we can hang on to Sproul, we won't miss Chycrun too much. 

Yeah, I wasn't that big on getting Stamkos, not as much as others were anyways. I didn't think the Wings had a shot at him. Why leave a cup contender in Tampa to go to a rebuild on the fly/clusterf*** in Detroit. lol And he didn't.

If Hamilton is available and Calgary wants Howard, now would be the time, because Howard is due for his yearly suck fest at some point. If not Hamilton, take Elliott. Less than half the cap hit and UFA July 1.

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