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1 hour ago, Jonas Mahonas said:

I disagree whole heartedly.

 

I LOVE Larkin, AA, Mantha, Zadina, and Veleno.

 

Starting to warm up to Bertuzzi, Svech, and the Muss.

Keep your finger on that lamp light bud cause the forecast just came in... it's Rasmussen goals. IDK what water bottles other teams use, but they better get quality rubbermaids... blistering wristers or fat clappers, this kid is gonna be unstoppable. If I had three wishes, the first would be to live forever, the second would be for Henrik Zetterberg to live forever, and the third would be for a Mikey Rasmussen to replace Zetterberg for when Z wants to go fishing or golfing.

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Detroit Red Wings captain Henrik Zetterberg confirmed that his back issues will force him to miss training camp and the start of the season, he told Swedish newspaper Sportbladet, according to Sportsnet's Chris Johnston.

"I have not been able to train and I cannot play NHL matches without being well prepared, especially not at my age," he said.

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11 minutes ago, NerveDamage said:

Detroit Red Wings captain Henrik Zetterberg confirmed that his back issues will force him to miss training camp and the start of the season, he told Swedish newspaper Sportbladet, according to Sportsnet's Chris Johnston.

"I have not been able to train and I cannot play NHL matches without being well prepared, especially not at my age," he said.

In Swedish, but it says it's the same injury that he got surgery for in 2014 at the start of the Olympics. Says he started feeling the injury again in February last season and they then decided to only play games and not practice.

During the summer he has only been able to do rehab work, and no actual training. As soon as he starts "pushing" it physically the symptoms starts to get too hard for him to handle. The treatment that let him manage to play the remaining games last season does not work anymore.

He will continue to do rehab work in Detroit now and then he said that he will wait and see how it goes before saying anything definitive about the rest of his career. He also says that he does not feel the injury when he is doing your normal everyday kind of stuff. So it does not haunt him or anything lifestyle wise, it only starts to get too hard when he is doing heavy training.

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11 minutes ago, ChristopherReevesLegs said:

In Swedish, but it says it's the same injury that he got surgery for in 2014 at the start of the Olympics. Says he started feeling the injury again in February last season and they then decided to only play games and not practice.

During the summer he has only been able to do rehab work, and no actual training. As soon as he starts "pushing" it physically the symptoms starts to get too hard for him to handle. The treatment that let him manage to play the remaining games last season does not work anymore.

He will continue to do rehab work in Detroit now and then he said that he will wait and see how it goes before saying anything definitive about the rest of his career. He also says that he does not feel the injury when he is doing your normal everyday kind of stuff. So it does not haunt him or anything lifestyle wise, it only starts to get too hard when he is doing heavy training.

Well, at least it's not a constant thing. That's good to hear.

In terms of hockey tho? Yeah, he's done.

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I think I'm probably one of the few who sees the bright side in this.  Zetterberg was a good pro and he had a good long career.  But he was never going to be good again.  Who wants to see him slowly devolve?  Plus, for the first time in a long time I'm excited about what's going to happen to this team.  I'd rather we be bad for another year or two, and get excited about this group coming up, than watch prolonged mediocrity.  I'd be excited about our team in two or three years based on our prospects right now, I'm super excited knowing that we're likely going to be a lottery team again this year.

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11 minutes ago, kipwinger said:

I think I'm probably one of the few who sees the bright side in this.  Zetterberg was a good pro and he had a good long career.  But he was never going to be good again.  Who wants to see him slowly devolve?  Plus, for the first time in a long time I'm excited about what's going to happen to this team.  I'd rather we be bad for another year or two, and get excited about this group coming up, than watch prolonged mediocrity.  I'd be excited about our team in two or three years based on our prospects right now, I'm super excited knowing that we're likely going to be a lottery team again this year.

To be fair, he put up 68 points a couple seasons ago and even this past season he was arguably our best player, pound for pound.

But I get what you're saying and I agree. It's time for new beginnings.

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Plan -

No Zetterberg in 2018/19.

Finish terrible in the season

Get one of the top 3 draft players in 2019 draft. 

2019/20 season Kronwall, Howard etc off the books. Larkin + Ras, Zadina, Veleno have taken big steps in the NHL and the latter players are full time on roster. 

Zetterberg returns to start the 2019 season; we make playoffs and win SC. 

Zetterberg retires with 1007 points. 

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BTW if he's in Detroit doing rehab (and not just chillen in Sweden), doesn't sound like a guy that's thrown in the towel yet.  

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9 minutes ago, kickazz said:

Plan -

No Zetterberg in 2018/19.

Finish terrible in the season

Get one of the top 3 draft players in 2019 draft. 

2019/20 season Kronwall, Howard etc off the books. Larkin + Ras, Zadina, Veleno have taken big steps in the NHL and the latter players are full time on roster. 

Zetterberg returns to start the 2019 season; we make playoffs and win SC. 

Zetterberg retires with 1007 points. 

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BTW if he's in Detroit doing rehab (and not just chillen in Sweden), doesn't sound like a guy that's thrown in the towel yet.  

I think they have to be local if they're going to be on LTIR.  Franzen stays in Detroit every season despite the fact that he'll never play again.  Part of the charade I suppose.

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I knew all the "reports" were just too odd to hear, especially from where they were coming from. Thanks Hank for the memories! Thanks for making Crosby look like a little *****! :lol:

As I've stated, the universe and everything that happens are all intertwined and everything impacts another. Salary wash, welcome to Detroit Zadina, Rasmussen and Hronek! 

Hank will be back if we make the playoffs. We're just gonna "Neidermeyer" the NHL this season. :ninja:

Nah! Bring on the #1 pick!

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23 minutes ago, Neomaxizoomdweebie said:

Really would have liked to see him finish it like the Sedins did. Would have been better to see the Euro twins retire together, but I guess we can't always chose how things end. I just feel like he deserved to go out on top, on his terms, when he wanted, not just fade away.

Bruh he didn't fade away. Recorded 68 points year before and finished 2nd on points last year and statistically was the best player on ice aka the team was better when he was on ice vs off ice. Played 82 games three years in a row. Also surpassed Fedorov, Ted Lindsay and a few others in points or assists or goals last year. Also played his 1000th game at the very last game at the Joe and scored that amazing goal.  Won King Clancy a couple years ago. 

I mean honestly he couldn't have had a better end post back surgery. Should have been written off in 2014 but dude make a comeback and set records and reached some incredible milestones on an otherwise s***ty team. Did it all on borrowed time. That's the ending I'd want if people wrote me off because my back was "bad" and I looked "slow" on ice. Proved lots of folks wrong honestly. Slow ass mfer that outproduced most young players in their primes the last few years. 

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10 minutes ago, kickazz said:

Bruh he didn't fade away. Recorded 68 points year before and finished 2nd on points last year and statistically was the best player on ice aka the team was better when he was on ice vs off ice. Played 82 games three years in a row. Also surpassed Fedorov, Ted Lindsay and a few others in points or assists or goals last year. Also played his 1000th game at the very last game at the Joe and scored that amazing goal.  Won King Clancy a couple years ago. 

I mean honestly he couldn't have had a better end post back surgery. Should have been written off in 2014 but dude make a comeback and set records and reached some incredible milestones on an otherwise s***ty team. Did it all on borrowed time. That's the ending I'd want if people wrote me off because my back was "bad" and I looked "slow" on ice. Proved lots of folks wrong honestly. Slow ass mfer that outproduced most young players in their primes the last few years. 

Yeah, but unless he finishes out his contract (highly unlikely) he'll finish his career n LTIR. No taking to the ice after his last game to a thunderous applause from the crowd. No on ice ceremony. No riding off into the sunset. Just here one game, gone the next. Would like for it to have ended differently.

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3 minutes ago, Neomaxizoomdweebie said:

Yeah, but unless he finishes out his contract (highly unlikely) he'll finish his career n LTIR. No taking to the ice after his last game to a thunderous applause from the crowd. No on ice ceremony. No riding off into the sunset. Just here one game, gone the next. Would like for it to have ended differently.

No taking the ice after his last game, but I'm sure there will be an on ice ceremony at some point. 

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1 hour ago, Neomaxizoomdweebie said:

Yeah, but unless he finishes out his contract (highly unlikely) he'll finish his career n LTIR. No taking to the ice after his last game to a thunderous applause from the crowd. No on ice ceremony. No riding off into the sunset. Just here one game, gone the next. Would like for it to have ended differently.

They're going to give him a big time celebration. Did you see that 1000th game ceremony? The guy is going to get an even bigger celebration for his retirement. 

Most players with the Red Wings didn't have some crazy last game where everyone applauded.

Yzerman's last game was in Edmonton when we got embarrassed as 1st seed. 

Lidstrom's last game was a playoff elimination against Preds where he recorded 0 points in the entire playoff series. 

Datsyuk's with a loss to Tampa where he recorded 0 points in the entire playoff series.

At least Z's last game was a goal and assist at home.

The LTIRment plan was coming for a long time and Z and the franchise knew it. Looks like he was never going to play till 2021, and because of that I'm pretty sure they knew his last game would be something no one else would "know" about. 

It would be nice to have a Sedin type send off for any player I'm sure, but it's just too rare. 

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Shame Datysuk and Zberg couldn't go out like Yzerman and Lidstrom. Both shorting their contracts and leaving in controversy. It's indicative of the state of the team at the moment IMO.

I really hope Holland has applied the same retool concept to the front office. We need fresh vision. Unfortunately Draper, Maltby, Cleary feels like clinging to the scraps of a dying era. The Yzerman's, Fedorov's, Shanahan's, have already moved to other pastures.

I've been very happy with Holland's surprising trade/rebuild ability, but we need a clear vision/path-forward soon whether that involves Holland or not.

1 hour ago, Jonas Mahonas said:

I doubt his number gets retired now, tho.

And here I thought u and kick were friends conspiring and all. Trolls gotta troll amirite?

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Honestly, Yzerman never announced during his last season, that it was his last season. He decided after the season was over that he was done. He didn't take one last on ice ovation in what turned out to be his last game at the Joe or last game at other venues. Scotty didn't say anything either until they were celebrating the 02 Cup. Even then, only the TV audience found out, the in person fans didn't know, thus not being able to give him any kind of special ovation either.

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More Zetterberg quotes:

 

"I don’t want to think I have played my last game. To me, it’s still early to say that”

“I will need more answers from doctors before I say I have played my last game,” Zetterberg said. “In my mind, I am hoping it can get solved.“

Zetterberg says he will keep trying to play until a medical professional tells him he cannot play another game. 

“I need someone to tell me I can’t play hockey anymore.”

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