PavelValerievichDatsyuk 1,935 Report post Posted December 21, 2017 24 minutes ago, SwedeLundin77 said: Exciting game through 2 periods... then a complete poop show in the 3rd... don't let a few stray wins fool you, boys and girls, this team is not good. It was a back-to-back game and we lost Glendening early, so it's not surprising that the 3rd wasn't our best period. Thought we played pretty well tonight, but needed to take advantage off the chances in the 1st to pull it off. 2 krsmith17 and Dabura reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chaps80 1,591 Report post Posted December 21, 2017 20 minutes ago, SwedeLundin77 said: Exciting game through 2 periods... then a complete poop show in the 3rd... don't let a few stray wins fool you, boys and girls, this team is not good. I’m not fooled. This roster needs to be burned down at deadline and in the off-season. Even buy out a bad contract if needed. They can’t really tank with the roster as is. Right now they are in the worst spot possible imo. Not bad enough to guarantee at least a 4th overall pick, and not good enough to make the playoffs. Time to bottom out. 2 SwedeLundin77 and LeftWinger reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chaps80 1,591 Report post Posted December 21, 2017 8 minutes ago, PavelValerievichDatsyuk said: It was a back-to-back game and we lost Glendening early, so it's not surprising that the 3rd wasn't our best period. Thought we played pretty well tonight, but needed to take advantage off the chances in the 1st to pull it off. Common theme this season though. Not taking advantage of chances. Lots of almost-sure-goal chances missed this season so far. Big goals to miss out on, especially when this team has lost quite a few one goal games, But as much as I like winning, this team NEEDS to lose. 1 SwedeLundin77 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TLGTrico 627 Report post Posted December 21, 2017 I don't even check the division standings or wild card race anymore. I just check the league standings to see how close we are to the bottom feeders. Also, Larkin, Mantha, Frk and AA all getting points makes me completely ok with this loss, and why is nbc such a curse for this team? 1 chaps80 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chaps80 1,591 Report post Posted December 21, 2017 1 hour ago, TLGTrico said: I don't even check the division standings or wild card race anymore. I just check the league standings to see how close we are to the bottom feeders. Also, Larkin, Mantha, Frk and AA all getting points makes me completely ok with this loss, and why is nbc such a curse for this team? I never check standings. I just look at the Wings record on game recaps and it never looks good. Be nice if it was worse, but as bad as this team is, they won’t bottom out with this roster. Maybe deadline day fixes some of that. Lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,207 Report post Posted December 21, 2017 I fell asleep during the 3rd. boooooooo 1 PavelValerievichDatsyuk reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,207 Report post Posted December 21, 2017 5 hours ago, chaps80 said: as bad as this team is, they won’t bottom out with this roster. Maybe deadline day fixes some of that. Lol https://www.nhl.com/standings 6th from the bottom, and that's with an extremely cushy schedule through these first three months. We could absolutely finish 3rd from the bottom, especially if we sell hard. Just sayin', 1 chaps80 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krsmith17 7,191 Report post Posted December 21, 2017 25 minutes ago, Dabura said: https://www.nhl.com/standings 6th from the bottom, and that's with an extremely cushy schedule through these first three months. We could absolutely finish 3rd from the bottom, especially if we sell hard. Just sayin', I think that was his point though, and I somewhat agree with that point. I wouldn't sell everyone, but everyone outside of Larkin and Mantha would be available at the right price. Ideally, I'd like Green and maybe one or two other moves made at the deadline to acquire futures (prospects / picks)... 1 chaps80 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chaps80 1,591 Report post Posted December 21, 2017 (edited) 19 minutes ago, krsmith17 said: I think that was his point though, and I somewhat agree with that point. I wouldn't sell everyone, but everyone outside of Larkin and Mantha would be available at the right price. Ideally, I'd like Green and maybe one or two other moves made at the deadline to acquire futures (prospects / picks)... Yep. Blow er up. Love to see this team finish 31st. Doesn’t guarantee Dahlin, but it’s a guaranteed top 4. Picking 8th (9th cause Vegas) again this season isn’t good (or bad) enough. Edited December 21, 2017 by chaps80 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,207 Report post Posted December 21, 2017 (edited) We might not even have to sell hard to finish in the bottom three. I'm just saying that if we continue to get the results we've been getting (or the lack thereof), we should be in a pretty good spot in terms of lottery placement -- and if we sell a significant piece or two, that could seal it. There are really only two teams in the league that are unequivocally worse than us this season (Arizona and Buffalo). Edited December 21, 2017 by Dabura 2 Son of a Wing and krsmith17 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
puckbags 863 Report post Posted December 21, 2017 To sell you have to have contracts that are sellable ( don't think thats a word ) or hope that teams in the playoff race have injury issues and they get desperate. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,794 Report post Posted December 21, 2017 If I'm playing a hockey video game and I start Be a GM Mode and pick the Wings, the first thing I'm doing is trying to figure out how to move the entire defensive corps. They're terrible. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 4,963 Report post Posted December 21, 2017 (edited) Right now, I keep Z, Mantha, AA, Larkin, Frk, Daley, & DD. Everyone else I'm listening to offers. Gathering picks/prospects and doing my best to get the #1 pick. Edited December 21, 2017 by LeftWinger Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,207 Report post Posted December 22, 2017 (edited) Green, Booth, Jensen, Nyquist, Ouellet, Mrazek, Witkowski. I think that's the realistic list of trade bait candidates. And I'm ok with that. I don't think blowing it up is feasible, because I don't think any one of our bigger contracts can be moved without us retaining salary or throwing in a sweetener or taking back someone else's problematic contract. Might as well just keep those players and let them guide us to a couple more seasons like the one we're currently having. It'd be one thing if we had a number of stud prospects knocking on the door and we had to make room for them on the roster, but that isn't the case. As for the draft...we do need to get lucky, yes. We do need to hit a home run or two or three over the next few drafts, yes. But I feel like a lot of Wings fans are a little too hung up on picking 1st/2nd/3rd overall. Getting lucky in the draft doesn't only mean picking in the top three. Consider: Erik Karlsson was drafted 15th overall Mark Stone -- 178th Mike Hoffman -- 130th Nikita Kucherov -- 58th Brayden Point -- 19th Mikhail Sergachev -- 9th P.K. Subban -- 43rd Roman Josi -- 38th Filip Forsberg -- 11th Vladimir Tarasenko -- 16th Colton Parayko -- 86th Mark Scheifele -- 7th Nikolaj Ehlers -- 9th Jacob Trouba -- 9th Zach Werenski -- 8th Alex DeBrincat -- 39th Duncan Keith -- 54th Mathew Barzal -- 16th David Pastrnak -- 25th Brad Marchand -- 71st Patrice Bergeron -- 45th David Krejci -- 63rd Sean Monahan -- 6th Johnny Gaudreau -- 104th Dougie Hamilton -- 9th T.J. Brodie -- 114th Ivan Provorov -- 7th Shayne Gostisbehere -- 78th Sean Couturier -- 8th Claude Giroux -- 22nd Rasmus Ristolainen -- 8th Anze Kopitar -- 11th Vincent Trocheck -- 64th James Neal -- 33rd Shea Theodore -- 26th Evgeny Kuznetsov -- 26th John Carlson -- 27th Oliver Ekman-Larsson -- 6th Clayton Keller -- 7th Derek Stepan -- 51st Brock Boeser -- 23rd Hampus Lindholm -- 6th Rickard Rakell -- 30th Brent Burns -- 20th Logan Couture -- 9th Joe Pavelski -- 205th Kris Letang -- 62nd Jamie Benn -- 129th John Klingberg -- 111th Justin Faulk -- 37th Max Pacioretty -- 22nd Brendan Gallagher -- 147th Shea Weber -- 49th Ryan McDonagh -- 12th Dylan Larkin -- 15th Anthony Mantha -- 20th Andreas Athanasiou -- 110th Not a single one of those players was a top-five selection. Food for thought. Edited December 22, 2017 by Dabura 3 krsmith17, kliq and Son of a Wing reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
