kickazz 5,459 Report post Posted February 10, 2018 7 minutes ago, Neomaxizoomdweebie said: Serious question: If the Rangers want to rid themselves of Smith w/o buying him out, they will have to take back a bad contract in a trade. If you're Holland and you have 3 expensive contracts playing in your bottom 6, do you consider taking Smith back from NY if you're trading away one of those contracts? No. All of our bad contracts are still decent hockey players. Smith is not. 1 Neomaxizoomdweebie reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chaps80 1,591 Report post Posted February 10, 2018 On 2018-02-08 at 1:12 PM, marcaractac said: Faith in his drafting and trades, absolutely. Now if we could put someone else in charge of contracts... I've always gotten sick of the Rags being in on seemingly every big piece of trade bait and UFA. Glad to see it has finally caught up to them. Wade Redden caught up to them years ago and got a lot of money for doing nothing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chaps80 1,591 Report post Posted February 10, 2018 7 hours ago, kickazz said: When was the last time the Rangers won the Stanley Cup? You guys sure talk big when praising the Rangers but no results have been shown. Rangers could buy all their fans designer jockstraps to “show respect” for all I care, they still suck and have not brought in a single Stanley Cup in 20+ years. Their ENTIRE rebuild since 1994 has been a complete and utter failure and here they go trying to do it again. Ya’ll are praising a franchise that failed at rebuilding and has to do it all over again; let that sink in for a minute. In the same time the Rangers have tried to rebuild and go at a cup run (two decades), we’ve won 4 Stanley Cups and we’ve drafted Larkin, Mantha, AA, Svech, Cholo, Ras. We’re ahead of them in the rebuilding as of now. Our owners are better and so is our management (Sather/Gorton). They could have won a Cup fairly recently if Lundqvist had some damn help doing it. I’ve seen him pissed after losing a playoff series so many times now, and could never blame him for it. I dunno why he’s stuck around so long. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kickazz 5,459 Report post Posted February 10, 2018 (edited) 1 minute ago, chaps80 said: They could have won a Cup fairly recently if Lundqvist had some damn help doing it. I’ve seen him pissed after losing a playoff series so many times now, and could never blame him for it. I dunno why he’s stuck around so long. Manhattan is a fun place to live. And he's probably the second most popular athlete there besides Odell Beckman Edited February 10, 2018 by kickazz Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chaps80 1,591 Report post Posted February 10, 2018 1 minute ago, kickazz said: Manhattan is a fun place to live. Probably. He seems to fit in with that crowd. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChristopherReevesLegs 7,022 Report post Posted February 14, 2018 So now Ryan Sproul has been called up to NYR. Sproul is a league ahead of Smith on the same team. Let that sink in. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kickazz 5,459 Report post Posted February 14, 2018 (edited) 14 minutes ago, ChristopherReevesLegs said: So now Ryan Sproul has been called up to NYR. Sproul is a league ahead of Smith on the same team. Let that sink in. God the humiliation Brenden Smith has brought to himself is just... And you know what sucks? It’s not even him it’s all the fans that talked him up unfortunately. And he never lived up to it. That’s what makes all of this sad (and funny) Edited February 14, 2018 by kickazz Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChristopherReevesLegs 7,022 Report post Posted February 14, 2018 3 minutes ago, kickazz said: God the humiliation Brenden Smith has brought to himself is just... And you know what sucks? It’s not even him it’s all the fans that talked him up unfortunately. And he never lived up to it. That’s what makes all of this sad (and funny) Too be fair most of us Wings fans knew he was garbage by the end of 14 or 15. Truly is amazing it took the rest 3 more years though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kickazz 5,459 Report post Posted February 14, 2018 (edited) 11 minutes ago, ChristopherReevesLegs said: Too be fair most of us Wings fans knew he was garbage by the end of 14 or 15. Truly is amazing it took the rest 3 more years though. Babcock knew. That’s why he repeatedly benched him and fans bitched about it. Babs was doing the team a favor Edited February 14, 2018 by kickazz Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChristopherReevesLegs 7,022 Report post Posted February 14, 2018 2 minutes ago, kickazz said: Babcock knew. That’s why he repeatedly benched him and fans bitched about it. Babs was doing the team a favo Amazes me to this day that Wings fans welcomed the leaving of babcock. Morons. We have them to blame for Blashill. 1 marcaractac reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kickazz 5,459 Report post Posted February 14, 2018 (edited) 2 minutes ago, ChristopherReevesLegs said: Amazes me to this day that Wings fans welcomed the leaving of babcock. Morons. We have them to blame for Blashill. @kipwinger was said fan. Kipwinger, number9 (aka ChristopherReevesLegs) is trash talking you. How else do we bring this guy back to posting here? Edited February 14, 2018 by kickazz Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChristopherReevesLegs 7,022 Report post Posted February 14, 2018 15 minutes ago, kickazz said: @kipwinger was said fan. Kipwinger, number9 (aka ChristopherReevesLegs) is trash talking you. How else do we bring this guy back to posting here? Then Kip is even stupider than I remember 1 kickazz reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kliq 3,755 Report post Posted February 14, 2018 Oh boi Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chaps80 1,591 Report post Posted February 17, 2018 (edited) Sproul has more talent than Smith though. If he gets his s*** together, he could stick in NY. But he probably won’t. Wonder if Smith is bought out in the off-season? Least he got a nice paycheck to set him for life that he doesn’t have to earn. Maybe he’ll be a training camp invite in Arizona or something after, sign a two-way $700k deal. Edited February 17, 2018 by chaps80 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kliq 3,755 Report post Posted February 17, 2018 1 hour ago, chaps80 said: Sproul has more talent than Smith though. If he gets his s*** together, he could stick in NY. But he probably won’t. Wonder if Smith is bought out in the off-season? Least he got a nice paycheck to set him for life that he doesn’t have to earn. Maybe he’ll be a training camp invite in Arizona or something after, sign a two-way $700k deal. It all depends on how close to the cap they are, and what their plan is. If they are way under the cap, it makes more sense to just put him in the AHL and eat it. If they plan on acquiring UFA's and making trades in the off-season, then they should consider it. My gut tells me AHL. 1 chaps80 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kylee 727 Report post Posted February 17, 2018 (edited) If I were Smith and things continue to go this way I’d accept a buyout and go make millions in the KHL - no shame in playing in the 2nd best league in the world. Edited February 17, 2018 by kylee Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kliq 3,755 Report post Posted February 17, 2018 1 hour ago, kylee said: If I were Smith and things continue to go this way I’d accept a buyout and go make millions in the KHL - no shame in playing in the 2nd best league in the world. Do you mean "prefer a buyout"? Players can't accept or reject a buyout. I would have to imagine that if he was bought out, some team would likely give him a shot with a PTO at least, if not a 1 year deal. 1 krsmith17 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Neomaxizoomdweebie 3,083 Report post Posted February 17, 2018 10 hours ago, kliq said: Do you mean "prefer a buyout"? Players can't accept or reject a buyout. I would have to imagine that if he was bought out, some team would likely give him a shot with a PTO at least, if not a 1 year deal. Agreed. Smith is an NHL caliber dman. He is just way overpaid. 2 kliq and krsmith17 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kliq 3,755 Report post Posted February 17, 2018 3 hours ago, Neomaxizoomdweebie said: Agreed. Smith is an NHL caliber dman. He is just way overpaid. If we could bring Smith back on a 1 year 1mil deal, I would take him over Jensen or XO, as long as he could get back into shape. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kickazz 5,459 Report post Posted February 18, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, kliq said: If we could bring Smith back on a 1 year 1mil deal, I would take him over Jensen or XO, as long as he could get back into shape. No... Bringing him for anything opens up a can of worms we don't want. Plus he got cut by NYR because of his lack of effort and conditioning. Keep that poor work ethic out of this org. He could be a top calibre defenseman but still not acceptable. Edited February 18, 2018 by kickazz 1 chaps80 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Neomaxizoomdweebie 3,083 Report post Posted February 18, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, kliq said: If we could bring Smith back on a 1 year 1mil deal, I would take him over Jensen or XO, as long as he could get back into shape. Yes. If the Rangers become sellers, I don't think they would have trouble trading Smith if they retained a significant amount of salary. At 50% of his current salary, I would take him as a 3rd pair, depth dman. I don't know if the Rags have used up their alotted number of retained salaries tho. Edited February 18, 2018 by Neomaxizoomdweebie Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chaps80 1,591 Report post Posted February 18, 2018 1 hour ago, Neomaxizoomdweebie said: Yes. If the Rangers become sellers, I don't think they would have trouble trading Smith if they retained a significant amount of salary. At 50% of his current salary, I would take him as a 3rd pair, depth dman. I don't know if the Rags have used up their alotted number of retained salaries tho. Enough with bringing back former Wings. Especially ones that can’t stick around the league. I know it’s a favourite move of Hollands though, so I wouldn’t doubt he’s already been working the phones with the Rags asking about Smith. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brett 1,029 Report post Posted February 18, 2018 this makes holland look like a god Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chaps80 1,591 Report post Posted February 18, 2018 4 hours ago, kickazz said: No... Bringing him for anything opens up a can of worms we don't want. Plus he got cut by NYR because of his lack of effort and conditioning. Keep that poor work ethic out of this org. He could be a top calibre defenseman but still not acceptable. Exactly. Need to move on. People talk about players needing to be traded for not playing to their potential around here all the time. That actually happens with Smith and people would take him back, even though he was waived by NYR in his first season after signing a $4 million per season multi year deal and them giving up a 2nd and 3rd to get him? No thanks. He’s their problem now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kickazz 5,459 Report post Posted February 18, 2018 (edited) Yeah you don’t sign a guy who got cut on his first year contract because of being out of shape and not taking conditioning seriously. Huge red flag. Doubt the Wings take him back anyways. Edited February 18, 2018 by kickazz 1 chaps80 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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