ChristopherReevesLegs 7,022 Report post Posted August 27, 2018 5 hours ago, The 91 of Ryans said: I think Zadina's going to be a 200 ft player eventually. Vanek is what he is and I have no hope AA will ever be anything more that a cherry-picker. Eventually probs yea my initial instinct is to never put Vanek or AA on the same line, but didn't Blashill do this a bit? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,207 Report post Posted August 27, 2018 6 hours ago, The 91 of Ryans said: I think Zadina's going to be a 200 ft player eventually. He's actually a surprisingly good three-zone player and PKer. It's one of the reasons why scouts were so high on him and why he's been compared to Hossa. But, yeah, doing it in the QMJHL and doing it in the NHL are two different things. That being said, Vanek-Athanasiou-Zadina would probably be a disaster. 33 minutes ago, ChristopherReevesLegs said: my initial instinct is to never put Vanek or AA on the same line, but didn't Blashill do this a bit? AA-Nielsen-Vanek was definitely a thing. I believe Nyquist-AA-Vanek was a very short-lived experiment. I'm not firmly opposed to Vanek being one of AA's wingers. It's understood that Vanek was brought back to mentor and boost the younger forwards, and he and AA did seem to have some chemistry. But I'd definitely want the other winger on that line to be experienced and defensively responsible. Bertuzzi's still green and his underlying numbers are crap. I might trust Rasmussen a wee bit more than I'd trust Bertuzzi, if only because he's a natural center. Honestly, Abby might be the best/safest pick. Mantha Larkin Zadina Rasmussen Nielsen Nyquist Abdelkader Athanasiou Vanek Bertuzzi Glendening Helm ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,207 Report post Posted August 27, 2018 4 minutes ago, Jonas Mahonas said: Why would Zadina-Athanasiou-Vanek be a disaster, but swapping out Abdelkader and Zadina make everything better? Abdelkader was -11 last year and is a career -28. What makes him a better piece to a successful third line over Zadina? I said it would *probably* be a disaster. I'm open to the idea that it could work as a severely sheltered scoring line, but I'd rather have Zadina in the top six and I'd like one of AA's wingers to be someone who we know can play a respectable two-way game at the NHL level, just to balance out the line. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Neomaxizoomdweebie 3,083 Report post Posted August 28, 2018 2 hours ago, Jonas Mahonas said: Why would Zadina-Athanasiou-Vanek be a disaster, but swapping out Abdelkader and Zadina make everything better? Abdelkader was -11 last year and is a career -28. What makes him a better piece to a successful third line over Zadina? With Zadina-AA-Vanek, you have a rookie, a C with a reputation for not playing a 2 way game, and a veteran who does best in an offensive role. I have to agree that putting all 3 on the same line would be a concern. Abby isn't exactly a defensive juggernaut, but I would feel more comfortable with a less offensive guy on that line to focus more on defense, so the other 2 can generate offense. 1 Dabura reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kipwinger 8,524 Report post Posted August 28, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, Neomaxizoomdweebie said: With Zadina-AA-Vanek, you have a rookie, a C with a reputation for not playing a 2 way game, and a veteran who does best in an offensive role. I have to agree that putting all 3 on the same line would be a concern. Abby isn't exactly a defensive juggernaut, but I would feel more comfortable with a less offensive guy on that line to focus more on defense, so the other 2 can generate offense. I'm less concerned that they're all offensive. I mean, you could always just start them in the o-zone. But AA is tricky because he's best in transition, and when blowing the zone, so that he can get up to speed and beat defenders. So you can't really start him in the offensive zone. Honestly, if Zadina and Vanek are on the line I'd rather they play with Neilsen. Assuming Larkin, Neilsen, AA, and Glendening are our centers I'd go for something like this: Bert-Larkin-Mantha Vanek-Neilsen-Zadina Ras-AA-Nyq Helm-Glen-Abby This is just for next year. In the long run I've got much different ideas about how I'd set my lines. Edited August 28, 2018 by kipwinger 2 Rick D and Neomaxizoomdweebie reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Neomaxizoomdweebie 3,083 Report post Posted August 28, 2018 17 hours ago, Dabura said: He's actually a surprisingly good three-zone player and PKer. It's one of the reasons why scouts were so high on him and why he's been compared to Hossa. But, yeah, doing it in the QMJHL and doing it in the NHL are two different things. That being said, Vanek-Athanasiou-Zadina would probably be a disaster. AA-Nielsen-Vanek was definitely a thing. I believe Nyquist-AA-Vanek was a very short-lived experiment. I'm not firmly opposed to Vanek being one of AA's wingers. It's understood that Vanek was brought back to mentor and boost the younger forwards, and he and AA did seem to have some chemistry. But I'd definitely want the other winger on that line to be experienced and defensively responsible. Bertuzzi's still green and his underlying numbers are crap. I might trust Rasmussen a wee bit more than I'd trust Bertuzzi, if only because he's a natural center. Honestly, Abby might be the best/safest pick. Mantha Larkin Zadina Rasmussen Nielsen Nyquist Abdelkader Athanasiou Vanek Bertuzzi Glendening Helm ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ The only thing I might question is Rass as a top 6 to start the season. I can see him there possibly after the TDL tho. I think Bert has earned a top 9 role. Would love to see the future stars get more top 9 ice time and the older guys moved down. 11 hours ago, kipwinger said: I'm less concerned that they're all offensive. I mean, you could always just start them in the o-zone. But AA is tricky because he's best in transition, and when blowing the zone, so that he can get up to speed and beat defenders. So you can't really start him in the offensive zone. Honestly, if Zadina and Vanek are on the line I'd rather they play with Neilsen. Assuming Larkin, Neilsen, AA, and Glendening are our centers I'd go for something like this: Bert-Larkin-Mantha Vanek-Neilsen-Zadina Ras-AA-Nyq Helm-Glen-Abby This is just for next year. In the long run I've got much different ideas about how I'd set my lines. Could definitely work. Without Z, Nielsen becomes the best 2 way C on the team, so putting him with 2 wingers who are out there to score isn't a bad idea. He's also good enough offensively to contribute there as well. I predict that Nielsen's numbers jump significantly this season if put in as 2C and getting finishers on his wings. 1 krsmith17 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,207 Report post Posted August 28, 2018 1 hour ago, Neomaxizoomdweebie said: The only thing I might question is Rass as a top 6 to start the season. I can see him there possibly after the TDL tho. I think Bert has earned a top 9 role. Would love to see the future stars get more top 9 ice time and the older guys moved down. Could definitely work. Without Z, Nielsen becomes the best 2 way C on the team, so putting him with 2 wingers who are out there to score isn't a bad idea. He's also good enough offensively to contribute there as well. I predict that Nielsen's numbers jump significantly this season if put in as 2C and getting finishers on his wings. Yeah, I mean, I'm open to pretty much anything. I'd like to see Zadina in the top six and I think I'd like to see Rasmussen on Nielsen's wing (because Nielsen has made it known that he prefers playing with north-south wingers), but it's a long season and we're going to see a lot of different combinations. The centers are more or less set, but it's anyone's guess how the wingers are going to shake out. I have Mantha as our top winger and I'm pretty sure Blashill is going to treat him and Larkin as a "forward pair." Beyond that, I don't see a clear hierarchy in the winger group. 1 krsmith17 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 4,963 Report post Posted August 28, 2018 Troy Brouwer has signed with Florida. 1 yr $850,000. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChristopherReevesLegs 7,022 Report post Posted August 28, 2018 Shane Doan Pallbearer at John McCain's Memorial Unexpected friendship for $500 1 Neomaxizoomdweebie reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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The 91 of Ryans 3,015 Report post Posted August 31, 2018 4 hours ago, ChristopherReevesLegs said: Less than DeKeyser? lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 4,963 Report post Posted August 31, 2018 Team friendly. That's how it's done. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChristopherReevesLegs 7,022 Report post Posted August 31, 2018 44 minutes ago, LeftWinger said: Team friendly. That's how it's done. But if they hadn't gotten rid of Troy Brouwer it wouldn't be right? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 4,963 Report post Posted August 31, 2018 (edited) k Edited January 7, 2021 by LeftWinger Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Neomaxizoomdweebie 3,083 Report post Posted August 31, 2018 11 minutes ago, ChristopherReevesLegs said: But if they hadn't gotten rid of Troy Brouwer it wouldn't be right? Obviously someone is going into LTIRetirement Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChristopherReevesLegs 7,022 Report post Posted August 31, 2018 (edited) 19 minutes ago, LeftWinger said: Ah ha, I see you don't like it when the same flawed logic gets flipped back on you. Ironic. Edited August 31, 2018 by ChristopherReevesLegs 1 NerveDamage reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NerveDamage 4,176 Report post Posted August 31, 2018 25 minutes ago, LeftWinger said: irony... On 8/28/2018 at 12:06 PM, LeftWinger said: Well considering in the quoted post we were all warned about posting off topic, I figured you may want to not post off topic and possibly get suspended. Then you'll really be Shaking your head. but by all means, keep posting off topic if you want. 1 ChristopherReevesLegs reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 4,963 Report post Posted August 31, 2018 1 hour ago, NerveDamage said: irony... Maybe I should've put up a troll? The post was referring to fishing for someone to take the bait. Which is what he was doing to begin with, baiting, which is well against forum rules. 1 hour ago, ChristopherReevesLegs said: Ah ha, I see you don't like it when the same flawed logic gets flipped back on you. Ironic. There's no flawed logic. Just a baiting attempt with off topic posts. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChristopherReevesLegs 7,022 Report post Posted August 31, 2018 5 minutes ago, LeftWinger said: Maybe I should've put up a troll? The post was referring to fishing for someone to take the bait. Which is what he was doing to begin with, baiting, which is well against forum rules. There's no flawed logic. Just a baiting attempt with off topic posts. Baiting implies there's a trap. If you think there's no flawed logic, then you shouldn't believe this is a trap. So if you are done playing around with semantics and want to actually have a discussion, I assume you think Brouwer leaving Calgary makes Hanafin's contract more team friendly correct? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NerveDamage 4,176 Report post Posted August 31, 2018 (edited) 12 minutes ago, LeftWinger said: Maybe I should've put up a troll? The post was referring to fishing for someone to take the bait. Which is what he was doing to begin with, baiting, which is well against forum rules. why not both? Edited August 31, 2018 by NerveDamage 1 LeftWinger reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Neomaxizoomdweebie 3,083 Report post Posted August 31, 2018 2 hours ago, NerveDamage said: why not both? Jonas? 2 2 NerveDamage, ChristopherReevesLegs, krsmith17 and 1 other reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChristopherReevesLegs 7,022 Report post Posted September 1, 2018 Some hype for yall meme haters 3 NerveDamage, Neomaxizoomdweebie and Dabura reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Neomaxizoomdweebie 3,083 Report post Posted September 1, 2018 9 hours ago, ChristopherReevesLegs said: Some hype for yall meme haters I never saw Simba? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,207 Report post Posted September 3, 2018 http://www.sportingnews.com/us/nhl/news/vegas-golden-knights-nate-schmidt-suspended-ped-banned-substance-stats-nhl-news/czk1kvpnoakm1k4nc8jgdykwn Wild OPEN SPOT ON VGK BLUE LINE appeared! Go! JENSEN/DALEY! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CupCrazy22 6 Report post Posted September 4, 2018 https://www.tsn.ca/jets-sign-wheeler-to-five-year-41-25m-extension-1.1167376 Very likely means the end to Trouba in Winnipeg. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
