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2021 Off-Season (Too Soon?)

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On 6/15/2021 at 11:26 PM, diehardredwingsfan58 said:

We're not dealing Vrana after just acquiring him, He's everything we would hope Mantha would be.

Worth noting: Vrana's shooting percentage as a Wing is 25%. No one is a 25% shooter (McDavid's single-season career high is 17.08), so that's gonna come wayyy down in a larger sample size. Point being: I don't feel Vrana should be totally untouchable. But I agree that Yzerman isn't going to deal him after only 11 games.

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33 minutes ago, BarkBurgerman said:

Another bro we can possibly scoop up for cheap: Jake Virtanen

Real down year this year, but he was on pace for 42 pts the year before and he's only 25 with 1 year left on a 2.25 contact. Former 6th overall pick.

He has sexual assault charges against him right now and the Canucks benched him. We could get him on the cheap (never believe victims, innocent until proven guilty)

these pro athletes cant figure the hooker situation out, can they?

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10 minutes ago, Scott R Lucidi said:

these pro athletes cant figure the hooker situation out, can they?

Always wonder why these pros don't hire pros. If I was making super bank I would be paranoid about any woman i was dating. Would she potentially level charges against me if i broke off the relationship or she gets prego etc. Vs hiring a top end call girl who knows the score and it's strictly business.  Once I am done then I get the wife and kiddos 

For those that need a reference about the case

https://www.citynews1130.com/2021/05/21/canucks-benning-virtanen/

Now it's a police investigation so there might be some teeth in the accusation. My semi-issue with the civil lawsuit is that the event happened in 2017 and 4 years later she files charges? Why the delay?  If I am suffering  and it seems she is based on her story. I would go after the person that caused my suffering right away not wait...

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21 minutes ago, BarkBurgerman said:

Do they not have innocent until proven guilty in Vancouver?

They do. But you cats are making lots of assumptions of your own too. Big ol sausage club here. It's almost as if saying dumb presumptuous opinionated things about just hockey isn't enough. 

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19 minutes ago, Akakabuto said:

Maybe @marcaractac can help them out? I heard he knows a thing or two about ladies of the night. 

If you believe a dude with clear small man syndrome who has the IQ level of a 7 year old, then yes. I know all there is to know. Well, he was right about the travelling the world part. I am fortunate enough to see some cool s***. 

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20 minutes ago, BarkBurgerman said:

Lets be honest, this board RoCkS because we have the hottest takes on the web

>Jake meets girl at concert
>Girl agrees to go on date with Jake
>Girl goes back to Jake's hotel room with him
>Hibbidty Dibbidty ensues
>4 years later girl says she didn't want to do hibbidity dibbidty with Jake
>Jake says she never once or at all protested doing hibbidty dibbity and in fact consented
>No criminal case has been filed, only civil
>Jake is not only seeking for the case to be dismissed, but also compensation from her for filing it!

Now they're investigating (good for them). But a rape kit can't be performed, and any hard evidence from that hotel room is long gone. So all they're going to dig up is text messages and he said she said statements. AKA nada.

So he'll get cleared in the eyes of the law, and should be regarded as innocent if that's the case. And if nothing of significance turns up this girl may be forced to pay Jake's legal costs.

If something seriously wrong happened to her, that's awful, but reporting it 4 years after the fact means she really has no way of proving her story. So that's all that is... a story.

This idea that women make this s*** up for attention. Like it's fun or something. She has nothing to gain from this especially since she can't prove anything. 

The Canucks are taking this accusation seriously. Maybe they know more about Jake's snake than you do. 

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3 hours ago, AtlantaHotWings said:

My semi-issue with the civil lawsuit is that the event happened in 2017 and 4 years later she files charges? Why the delay?  If I am suffering  and it seems she is based on her story. I would go after the person that caused my suffering right away not wait...

October 22, 2020

https://thecanuckway.com/2020/10/22/the-canucks-and-jake-virtanen-agree-new-year-contract/

The Vancouver Canucks and forward Jake Virtanen have come to an agreement on a two-year contract with an average annual value of $2.5 million.

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11 minutes ago, BarkBurgerman said:

>To BUF: 2021 WSH pick + Filip Zadina + Dennis Cholowski
>To DET: Sam Reinhart

Offseason:

>Sign Zach Hyman $6 million x 4
>Sign Jamie Oleksiak $4 million x 3
>Sign Mikko Lehtonen $2 million x 2

Vrana - Reinhart - Bertuzzi
Fabbri - Larkin - Hyman
Namestnikov - Rasmussen - Erne
Smith - Glendening - Panik
Veleno

Oleksiak - Hronek
Lehtonen - Seider
Dekeyser - Stecher
Lindstrom

Bernier
Greiss

Now that looks like a roster

 

That roster would score 12 goals next year

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15 minutes ago, BarkBurgerman said:

The point isn't to score goals, it's to get the Larkin UofM band back together by signing Hyman.

The other interesting one is Andrew Copp in Winnipeg. Huge year this year and will demand a big raise, RFA, and it doesn't look like they have much room for him:

Centers already signed:
Wheeler (plays wing as well)
Little (plays wing as well)
Scheifele
PLD
Lowry
Harkins
Gustafsson (Minors) (2nd rounder)
Perfetti (Minors) (1st rounder)

Even if you move both Wheeler and Little to wing they have 4 centers signed with #5 Gustafsson and #6 Perfetti coming up.

I would entertain a trade that brings Copp's RFA rights to Detroit. If we have Larkin + Copp + Hyman then Werenski has no choice but to be traded to Detroit.

Oh, my bad, I thought the point was to show Larkin as a 2C on your sheet of paper and also to trade Zadina. 

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1 hour ago, The 91 of Ryans said:

Oh, my bad, I thought the point was to show Larkin as a 2C on your sheet of paper and also to trade Zadina. 

It's an interesting trade scenario... adds a 1A center to our 1B/2A, gets value for a 3rd line winger who may still be perceived to have upside.

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Just now, BarkBurgerman said:

Slow, barely blocks shots, hardly scores, will be 35.

Had Marc been traded to anyone else besides us last season and was UFA now he wouldn't make anyone's short list as a potential signing.

You can literally throw a dart at the UFA board and make a better selection for our defense than Staal.

Veteran presence in the locker room - solid on the pk/calm in his own end - made a great pairing with Stecher whom I hope is protected from the expansion draft.

I'd take another season of him over Cholowski/Lindstrom.

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I' d really really love to see Yzerman take advantage of the flat cap and expansion draft to get a younger D man in here that can generate some ******* offense either on the PP or just getting the puck up to ice to guys like Vrana/Zadina etc. 

 

3 minutes ago, BarkBurgerman said:

I want Tatar back

I'd take him back in heartbeat on a short term deal. 

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1 hour ago, BarkBurgerman said:

40 pts in 54 games is a lower pace than Larkin's 23 in 44?

Luke Henmen

Sam Reinhart: 295 points in 454 games over 7 seasons = 0.65 points per game

Dylan Larkin: 289 points in 433 games over 6 seasons = 0.67 points per game

I don't have a math degree, but it would appear that Larkin has a better scoring rate than Reinhart. If Larkin is not a 1C based on P/GP, then Reinhart can't be either.

Reinhart is also a year older and has a worse +/-  than Larkin, is slower, and is worse defensively. But he should be center over Larkin?

Edited by Neomaxizoomdweebie

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8 hours ago, BarkBurgerman said:

Could be the wildest year in a while. Flat cap. Expansion. Stars available via trade. Tons of good names in UFA.

And the Red Wings books look like this:

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Nielsen and Dekeyser dump next year is going to open us up for a nice replacement.

2 hours ago, Neomaxizoomdweebie said:

Sam Reinhart: 295 points in 454 games over 7 seasons = 0.65 points per game

Dylan Larkin: 289 points in 433 games over 6 seasons = 0.67 points per game

I don't have a math degree, but it would appear that Larkin has a better scoring rate than Reinhart. If Larkin is not a 1C based on P/GP, then Reinhart can't be either.

Reinhart is also a year older and has a worse +/-  than Larkin, is slower, and is worse defensively. But he should be center over Larkin?

Answer the question.

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On 6/13/2021 at 4:51 PM, Dabura said:

Was bored. Wanted to see how we might look with only a few UFA adds, no significant trades.

UFA adds: Blake Coleman, Dmitry Kulikov, Alex Wennberg.

Seattle: Namestnikov.

Bertuzzi  Larkin  Coleman
Vrana  Wennberg  Zadina
Veleno  Rasmussen  Fabbri
Erne  Glendening  Panik
Nielsen, Smith

Kulikov  Hronek
DeKeyser  Seider
Cholowski  Stecher
Lindstrom

Bernier
Greiss

Wennberg's not going to score like he did this season (unsustainable shooting percentage), but he's a true centerman who can play tough minutes and keep his head above water. Basically a placeholder in the middle six for a couple of years as we sort ourselves out at center. I'm tired of stopgaps, but Wennberg's gonna be 27 in September, so it's not like we're re-signing Filppula.

Coleman's a good winger who can play center if needed. Given that we're so weak at center, so I'd like to see us ice a deep(ish) winger group.

I liked Hronek with Nemeth. Kulikov is sort of a Nemeth type; he won't put up points, but he can drive possession in a tough shutdown role.

I like this lineup. I feel like this lineup would be watchable, possibly even competitive.

I still like this roster.

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