2021 Off-Season (Too Soon?)

[Jonas Mahonas 1,872]

On 9/17/2021 at 5:38 AM, BarkBurgerman said:

Always my favorite excuse for a player. Scorer can't score because he's too busy 200fting! If Zadinas mind is on defense in the Ozone cycle we have a much bigger problem than him not scoring...

hes averaged a point every 2 games from the 3rd line gettong 13 mins a night.  His offense hasnt been anywhere near "cant score".

[Dabura 12,232]

So far, so good on the Raymond front...

please let this kid be datsyuk-good please let this kid be datsyuk-good please let this kid be datsyuk-good

[Dabura 12,232]

Cossa's dad dishin' up some deets...

 

[Dabura 12,232]

Through 3 games, Edvinsson has been solid for Frolunda (SHL) in a top-pairing role. He looks more 1) comfortable than I'd expected and 2) Seider-like than I'd expected. That pleases me.

Ken Kal said during the first prospects tourney game that Edvinsson was #1 on Dallas's 2021 draft board.

[Jonas Mahonas 1,872]

3 hours ago, Dabura said:

Through 3 games, Edvinsson has been solid for Frolunda (SHL) in a top-pairing role. He looks more 1) comfortable than I'd expected and 2) Seider-like than I'd expected. That pleases me.

Ken Kal said during the first prospects tourney game that Edvinsson was #1 on Dallas's 2021 draft board.

The thing I loved was that when I watched Eddog's highlights for the first time, 75% of them were him doing well in his own end.  This kid is going to be a good one.  

[Neomaxizoomdweebie 3,083]

https://www.mlive.com/redwings/2021/09/red-wings-jakub-vrana-out-four-months-due-to-shoulder-surgery.html

I think this solidifies a roster spot for Bobby Ryan. Which wouldn't be a bad thing, he's  looked good since his PTO.

 

[kipwinger 8,754]

I’m sure I’m the only one, but I think Erne-Ras-Ryan would be a pretty awesome 3rd line.

[Neomaxizoomdweebie 3,083]

3 hours ago, kipwinger said:

I’m sure I’m the only one, but I think Erne-Ras-Ryan would be a pretty awesome 3rd line.

Erne and Ras were paired quite a bit in TC. Seemed to compliment each other. I think Ryan is 2nd line with Suter and Fabbri.

[F.Michael 4,590]

3 hours ago, Neomaxizoomdweebie said:

Erne and Ras were paired quite a bit in TC. Seemed to compliment each other. I think Ryan is 2nd line with Suter and Fabbri.

Read somewhere that Erne has looked really good so far.

[Neomaxizoomdweebie 3,083]

12 hours ago, F.Michael said:

Read somewhere that Erne has looked really good so far.

Played well last season too. Solid Helm replacement, but slower.

[kipwinger 8,754]

On 10/3/2021 at 2:04 AM, Neomaxizoomdweebie said:

Erne and Ras were paired quite a bit in TC. Seemed to compliment each other. I think Ryan is 2nd line with Suter and Fabbri.

I know what the lines look like. I don't like Ryan on the 2nd. But I would like him on the 3rd. Ras and Erne create quite a few chances that I think Ryan would finish on more often than Namestnikov does.

[Neomaxizoomdweebie 3,083]

1 hour ago, kipwinger said:

I know what the lines look like. I don't like Ryan on the 2nd. But I would like him on the 3rd. Ras and Erne create quite a few chances that I think Ryan would finish on more often than Namestnikov does.

If Vrana was healthy, I agree. If Ryan doesnt get moved up, then Veleno or Namestnikov has to.

[kipwinger 8,754]

2 minutes ago, Neomaxizoomdweebie said:

If Vrana was healthy, I agree. If Ryan doesnt get moved up, then Veleno or Namestnikov has to.

As much as I think Veleno blows, I think he makes sense there. I don't like Blashill's tendency to try putting skill guys together. I think scoring lines need someone to dig for pucks and maintain possession. I think Fabbri-Suter-Ryan gets murdered in possession because none of them are going to be especially good at winning puck battles. Veleno would be. For now I'd do:

Bert-Larkin-Zadina

Fabbri-Suter-Veleno

Erne-Ras-Ryan

And after Vrana is back I'd do:

Bert-Larkin-Vrana

Veleno-Suter-Zadina

Erne-Ras-Fabbri

[Dabura 12,232]

I love Bobby Ryan.

But if he's on our second line, I am going to make the loudest mouthfart noise the world has ever heard.

We're supposed to be taking a step forward this season.

Edited October 4, 2021 by Dabura

[Dabura 12,232]

1 hour ago, BarkBurgerman said:

I really have never understood the unconditional love for Bobby Ryan. And I'll admit it's not as pronounced here as it is on some other Wings fan boards... but still. No one would take this guy, so he signed a bargain deal with us. Hurt majority of the year. When he does play, it's as a one-dimensional middle-6 offensive-specialist. But I see people are buying his jersey and celebrating him possibly returning to the team... why?

Now still no one wants him and he's forced to sign a PTO with us.

He's like bizzaro Thomas Vanek. Same exact role and player, produces less points, but everyone loves him, when no one gave a rats behind about Vanek. A guy who could actually earn a contract.

I played against him a few times in peewee, so I have to root for him. Because sports.

Seems like a good dude. Been through a lot. (Some of it completely out of his control, some of it maybe not so much.) Mainly, he had to play for the Ducks and Sens, which is something I wouldn't wish on anyone.

[The 91 of Ryans 3,019]

1 hour ago, BarkBurgerman said:

I really have never understood the unconditional love for Bobby Ryan. And I'll admit it's not as pronounced here as it is on some other Wings fan boards... but still. No one would take this guy, so he signed a bargain deal with us. Hurt majority of the year. When he does play, it's as a one-dimensional middle-6 offensive-specialist. But I see people are buying his jersey and celebrating him possibly returning to the team... why?

Now still no one wants him and he's forced to sign a PTO with us.

He's like bizzaro Thomas Vanek. Same exact role and player, produces less points, but everyone loves him, when no one gave a rats behind about Vanek. A guy who could actually earn a contract.

 

Some people want him right winging the 2nd  line! Insane. 

[Neomaxizoomdweebie 3,083]

2 hours ago, BarkBurgerman said:

I really have never understood the unconditional love for Bobby Ryan. And I'll admit it's not as pronounced here as it is on some other Wings fan boards... but still. No one would take this guy, so he signed a bargain deal with us. Hurt majority of the year. When he does play, it's as a one-dimensional middle-6 offensive-specialist. But I see people are buying his jersey and celebrating him possibly returning to the team... why?

Now still no one wants him and he's forced to sign a PTO with us.

He's like bizzaro Thomas Vanek. Same exact role and player, produces less points, but everyone loves him, when no one gave a rats behind about Vanek. A guy who could actually earn a contract.

 

He played 33 games out of 56 last season.

I cant find it now, but I had read that he liked playing here, that there was some interest from other teams, but he opted to take his chances coming back to Detroit on a PTO. 

If its Detroit, or retire, that's his choice. Not unlike Mike Green.

He is a RH shot, too. Something missing from the forward group besides Gagner and Stephens, who bring little offense.

He's not a difference maker. But he brings some offense, a RH shot, and a veteran presence to the locker room. If he isn't holding anyone back, then I don't see the issue with a 1 year deal.

[Jonas Mahonas 1,872]

53 minutes ago, BarkBurgerman said:

You don't have to sell me on Bobby Ryan. I'm absolutely fine with him being here if he gets signed.

It's just another case where I'm confused by the whimsy of fans.

Vanek had basically the same or better numbers in both stints here. He said he liked playing in Detroit and even returned for a 2nd stint. Blash sang his praises, and literally said he was one of the smartest players he's ever coached. Also a RH shot. Also a veteran presence. Also signed one year deals. Fan reaction: WHY ARE WE SIGNING WASHED UP OLD VETS

Fan reaction to Bobby Ryan: AWESOME  GLAD HE'S BACK. LOVE THIS GUY.

I just don't get it. At least Vanek could hold his pilsner.

trust the Yzerplan

[Neomaxizoomdweebie 3,083]

2 hours ago, BarkBurgerman said:

You don't have to sell me on Bobby Ryan. I'm absolutely fine with him being here if he gets signed.

It's just another case where I'm confused by the whimsy of fans.

Vanek had basically the same or better numbers in both stints here. He said he liked playing in Detroit and even returned for a 2nd stint. Blash sang his praises, and literally said he was one of the smartest players he's ever coached. Also a RH shot. Also a veteran presence. Also signed one year deals. Fan reaction: WHY ARE WE SIGNING WASHED UP OLD VETS

Fan reaction to Bobby Ryan: AWESOME  GLAD HE'S BACK. LOVE THIS GUY.

I just don't get it. At least Vanek could hold his pilsner.

I had no issues with Vanek. For exactly the same reasons as Ryan.

It also had to do with fan perceptions of KH and SY. They could sign exactly the same guy and fans would call Holland an idiot and call Yzerman a genius.

Edited October 5, 2021 by Neomaxizoomdweebie

[mackel 763]

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[Jonas Mahonas 1,872]

1 hour ago, mackel said:

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[Dabura 12,232]

On 10/4/2021 at 7:00 PM, BarkBurgerman said:

You don't have to sell me on Bobby Ryan. I'm absolutely fine with him being here if he gets signed.

It's just another case where I'm confused by the whimsy of fans.

Vanek had basically the same or better numbers in both stints here. He said he liked playing in Detroit and even returned for a 2nd stint. Blash sang his praises, and literally said he was one of the smartest players he's ever coached. Also a RH shot. Also a veteran presence. Also signed one year deals. Fan reaction: WHY ARE WE SIGNING WASHED UP OLD VETS

Fan reaction to Bobby Ryan: AWESOME  GLAD HE'S BACK. LOVE THIS GUY.

I just don't get it. At least Vanek could hold his pilsner.

I liked Vanek.

Bobby Ryan is American tho, so f*** Vanek.

[bIueadams 776]

This is why we should go after Campbell to replace Greiss. Bring the boy home to Michigan. Leafs won't be able to afford him.