Neomaxizoomdweebie 3,083 Report post Posted March 18, 2022 (edited) 17 hours ago, Neomaxizoomdweebie said: His vax status MAY have cost him a job in Detroit. 2 hours ago, Neomaxizoomdweebie said: I dont think Bertuzzi should be traded because of it. IF SY does, it would be about the only thing we dont agree on. 1 hour ago, bIueadams said: Yet you just suggested Bertuzzi is losing his job because of his Vax status. No I didn't. I said it MAY have cost him his job. SY can disagree with the protocols, and even agree with Bert's decision, but if the games missed is making a significant negative impact on the team, he may find it better to trade him than keep him. Regardless of how he personally feels about any of it. Edited March 18, 2022 by Neomaxizoomdweebie Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bIueadams 776 Report post Posted March 18, 2022 1 hour ago, Neomaxizoomdweebie said: No I didn't. I said it MAY have cost him his job. SY can disagree with the protocols, and even agree with Bert's decision, but if the games missed is making a significant negative impact on the team, he may find it better to trade him than keep him. Regardless of how he personally feels about any of it. "Suggested" If Yzerman cared about games lost he would have traded him b4 the Canadian road trips. Not after. Right when Canada is lifting restrictions. Your logic makes no sense. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 5,111 Report post Posted March 18, 2022 Bertuzzi has told Yzerman that he is "open" to be moved. I am sure not because he hates it here or anything like that, BUT, the state of this team at the moment, I believe that Bertuzzi will be way past his prime before The Wings are serious perennial Cup contenders. He probably figures it's better to get traded now, to a contender and possibly win a few Cups, rather than work hard the next few seasons at building this team, then get traded at 30 years old. But, on the same hand he hasn't "asked" for a trade, nor has Yzerman said he is on the market. Yzerman said they were "open for business" and only a few are untouchable. I'm sure Bertuzzi would love to stay and win a Cup (or two) here, but I am also sure he told Yzerman he is "open" to be moved because why not win a Cup sooner? This is all just my interpretation of this, I just cannot wait to see the return for Bertuzzi (if dealt) with all the 1st's being thrown around so far! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jonas Mahonas 1,872 Report post Posted March 19, 2022 9 hours ago, marcaractac said: So you give up a 2022 1st, 2022 2nd, Wallinder, McIsaac for a pending UFA? If Stevie wanted him that bad I'm sure he'd just go for it July 1st. If you're trading assets for a dman as a rebuilding team, you go after a guy like Chychrun. Not Lindholm. A guy who still has plenty of team control left. I mentioned Lindholm being offered as signed to 8/8 to start. First you dont know how NHL UFA rules work. Now you dont know how a sign and trade works. Jesus, Marc. Youre demoted to the LGW fantasy accounting department. Go collect fantasy season ticket fees!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jonas Mahonas 1,872 Report post Posted March 19, 2022 Just so everyone is clear, go and do your research on picks 21 thru 32 over the last 10 years. Theres David Pasternak (all star), then about 3 good NHL regulars, then about 7 more decent NHL regulars, then about 90% LOS STINKOS. Tampa giving up pick 31 in 2022 and pick 32 in 2023 doesnt carry a lot of risk on their part. The good move for a gm is to package picks in that range to get bumped up into the 11-20 range. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Neomaxizoomdweebie 3,083 Report post Posted March 19, 2022 3 hours ago, bIueadams said: "Suggested" Did not suggest he is being shopped for that reason. If Bert gets traded, his vax status may be a part of it tho. 3 hours ago, bIueadams said: If Yzerman cared about games lost he would have traded him b4 the Canadian road trips. Not after. Right when Canada is lifting restrictions. Your logic makes no sense. I disagree. SY knew this team was not a contender before the season started. Losing him for those Canadian games was a lesser evil then trading Bert for scraps. Bert's value was much lower to start the season because of his vax status. That would not have been a good time to trade him. Yzerman may have waited because he was hoping that Bert might cave to pressure from his team and the media and get vaxxed, and/or he was hoping restrictions would be removed quickly. SY may have also been hoping that Bert would play well enough that teams (especially in the Metro and Central) would not be swayed by his vax status. Waiting until the TDL to trade him was the smart move, whether or not SY was displeased with losing him for those Canadian games. Also, I wouldnt count out a future return to border restrictions. Its not like CoVid is going away anytime soon. That may play into Yzerman's future plans as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jonas Mahonas 1,872 Report post Posted March 19, 2022 27 minutes ago, Neomaxizoomdweebie said: Did not suggest he is being shopped for that reason. If Bert gets traded, his vax status may be a part of it tho. I disagree. SY knew this team was not a contender before the season started. Losing him for those Canadian games was a lesser evil then trading Bert for scraps. Bert's value was much lower to start the season because of his vax status. That would not have been a good time to trade him. Yzerman may have waited because he was hoping that Bert might cave to pressure from his team and the media and get vaxxed, and/or he was hoping restrictions would be removed quickly. SY may have also been hoping that Bert would play well enough that teams (especially in the Metro and Central) would not be swayed by his vax status. Waiting until the TDL to trade him was the smart move, whether or not SY was displeased with losing him for those Canadian games. Also, I wouldnt count out a future return to border restrictions. Its not like CoVid is going away anytime soon. That may play into Yzerman's future plans as well. you implied 1 bIueadams reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diehardredwingsfan58 164 Report post Posted March 19, 2022 On 3/17/2022 at 8:48 PM, bIueadams said: Hopefully just Names. Bertuzzi is my boy. Yeah i really don't want Bert to go either, But the vaxx thing i believe has soured Yzerman on him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Neomaxizoomdweebie 3,083 Report post Posted March 19, 2022 16 hours ago, Jonas Mahonas said: you implied That his vax status plays into a trade? Yes. That's he being traded because he's unvaxxed? No. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bIueadams 776 Report post Posted March 19, 2022 Bertuzzis not gonna be traded. He's not even being held out of the lineup. Go home everyone. 2 Jonas Mahonas and Rick D reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jonas Mahonas 1,872 Report post Posted March 19, 2022 1 hour ago, bIueadams said: Bertuzzis not gonna be traded. He's not even being held out of the lineup. Go home everyone. Bertuzzi is a Detroit native Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diehardredwingsfan58 164 Report post Posted March 20, 2022 3 hours ago, bIueadams said: Bertuzzis not gonna be traded. He's not even being held out of the lineup. Go home everyone. His home is in Detroit, he just had his first born Michigan daughter. Yeah Bert isn't going anywhere. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Neomaxizoomdweebie 3,083 Report post Posted March 20, 2022 (edited) Lindholm traded https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article/bruins-acquire-defenceman-hampus-lindholm-from-ducks/ Giroux traded https://www.espn.com/nhl/story/_/id/33549353/long-philadelphia-flyers-captain-claude-giroux-traded-florida-panthers-sources-say Edited March 20, 2022 by Neomaxizoomdweebie Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ely s 458 Report post Posted March 20, 2022 https://www.mlive.com/redwings/2022/03/new-dad-tyler-bertuzzi-dismisses-trade-talk-committed-to-red-wings.html Bert doesn´t want to go anywhere else. 3 amato, bIueadams and Akakabuto reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jonas Mahonas 1,872 Report post Posted March 20, 2022 Forsberg still out there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ely s 458 Report post Posted March 20, 2022 they moved Stecher to LA for a 7th in ´22 https://www.mlive.com/redwings/2022/03/red-wings-trade-troy-stetcher-to-kings-for-seventh-round-pick.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
town123 226 Report post Posted March 20, 2022 Hampus Lindholm 8/52 with Bruins. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jonas Mahonas 1,872 Report post Posted March 20, 2022 1 hour ago, town123 said: Hampus Lindholm 8/52 with Bruins. Boston did well here Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Neomaxizoomdweebie 3,083 Report post Posted March 20, 2022 Giordano traded https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article/maple-leafs-acquire-defenceman-mark-giordano-from-kraken/ 1 hour ago, ely s said: they moved Stecher to LA for a 7th in ´22 https://www.mlive.com/redwings/2022/03/red-wings-trade-troy-stetcher-to-kings-for-seventh-round-pick.html Should've gotten more. I am assuming injuries played a part. 1 hour ago, town123 said: Hampus Lindholm 8/52 with Bruins. That is very good value. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jonas Mahonas 1,872 Report post Posted March 20, 2022 Leddy is trash, and the whole league knows 1 bIueadams reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bIueadams 776 Report post Posted March 20, 2022 Almost thinking Namestnikov might stay at this point. No rumors. Leddy isn't on anyone's radar. Big splash - if it happens - will be Zadina Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
amato 3,210 Report post Posted March 20, 2022 Honestly kind of hope namestnikov stays. He's the kind of energy middle six forward that any team could use. Wouldn't hate holding onto him for the rest of the season (also not opposed to trading of course). Hope he's signed this off season whether he's traded or not Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
town123 226 Report post Posted March 20, 2022 40 minutes ago, Jonas Mahonas said: Boston did well here I wish he would have waited until the offseason to figure out that the Wings were his best choice, esp at that price tag. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bIueadams 776 Report post Posted March 21, 2022 4 hours ago, town123 said: I wish he would have waited until the offseason to figure out that the Wings were his best choice, esp at that price tag. Yeah the off-season is basically f***ed now that Lindholm is gone. RIP. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diehardredwingsfan58 164 Report post Posted March 21, 2022 So Troy Stecher to LA for the Kings 2022 7th round pick, Seravalli saying that Nick Leddy to Dallas for their 2nd round pick is in play. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
