Jimmybigrigs69 378 Report post Posted June 29, 2024 Yzermans explanation on the walman trade at the draft = very hard to move money right now. Tried to move money and couldnt. This is what it cost. Yet SJS claimed Goodrow from NY for nothing. Right. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akakabuto 1,842 Report post Posted June 29, 2024 11 minutes ago, Jimmybigrigs69 said: Yzermans explanation on the walman trade at the draft = very hard to move money right now. Tried to move money and couldnt. This is what it cost. Yet SJS claimed Goodrow from NY for nothing. Right. What I don’t get, even if you have the framework for a trade worked out with SJ, why don’t you just waive him first to see if somebody take him? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jimmybigrigs69 378 Report post Posted June 29, 2024 2 minutes ago, Akakabuto said: What I don’t get, even if you have the framework for a trade worked out with SJ, why don’t you just waive him first to see if somebody take him? If the Trouba trade is real SJS must be involved. Scam isnt this dumb. 1 Akakabuto reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Axl Foley 334 Report post Posted June 29, 2024 Idk. It could have been that SJ would swap picks ONLY if a specific player was available. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diehardredwingsfan58 164 Report post Posted June 29, 2024 So possibly Jacob Trouba to Detroit for 2 x $5,500,000 and not sure of the return to the Rangers yet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 5,136 Report post Posted June 29, 2024 (edited) Stamkos most likely staying now. Edited February 3 by LeftWinger Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akakabuto 1,842 Report post Posted June 29, 2024 32 minutes ago, LeftWinger said: Stamkos most likely staying now. good Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Axl Foley 334 Report post Posted June 29, 2024 (edited) Stamkos still going to free agency. Tampa looking at Guentzel. Edited June 30, 2024 by Axl Foley Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TLGTrico 662 Report post Posted June 30, 2024 https://x.com/EricBancker/status/1807232728896606438 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AtlantaHotWings 1,126 Report post Posted June 30, 2024 Leafs got rights to Tanev https://www.tsn.ca/tradecentre/trade-tracker shall see if the site blows up today with the rumored "blockbuster" trade with the Rags.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Motor City Mullets 304 Report post Posted June 30, 2024 1 hour ago, AtlantaHotWings said: Leafs got rights to Tanev https://www.tsn.ca/tradecentre/trade-tracker shall see if the site blows up today with the rumored "blockbuster" trade with the Rags.... This has been rinse and repeat for Tronna…If Tanev wants to win - better off signing elsewhere. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
town123 235 Report post Posted June 30, 2024 Anyone know why Tampa would spit up a 3rd rounder for the negotiating rights to Guentzel? Come July 1st he could still listen to all offers couldn't he? 1 Al The Octopus reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 5,136 Report post Posted June 30, 2024 (edited) On 6/30/2024 at 11:32 AM, town123 said: Anyone know why Tampa would spit up a 3rd rounder for the negotiating rights to Guentzel? Come July 1st he could still listen to all offers couldn't he? He'll get paid by Tampa! Edited February 3 by LeftWinger Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
town123 235 Report post Posted June 30, 2024 1 hour ago, LeftWinger said: He'll get paid by Tampa! What I mean is why make the trade? It's a waste of a 3rd if Guentzel doesn't sign and goes to FA Jake is signing for 7 years max no matter where he plays, other than Carolina, and there's no guarantee for Tampa that he won't just go to FA tomorrow and pick his best deal Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AtlantaHotWings 1,126 Report post Posted June 30, 2024 31 minutes ago, town123 said: What I mean is why make the trade? It's a waste of a 3rd if Guentzel doesn't sign and goes to FA Jake is signing for 7 years max no matter where he plays, other than Carolina, and there's no guarantee for Tampa that he won't just go to FA tomorrow and pick his best deal But you get a bit of extra time to convince him that no state tax is better than an extra year in Carolina with taxes 1 town123 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jimmybigrigs69 378 Report post Posted June 30, 2024 31 minutes ago, town123 said: What I mean is why make the trade? It's a waste of a 3rd if Guentzel doesn't sign and goes to FA Jake is signing for 7 years max no matter where he plays, other than Carolina, and there's no guarantee for Tampa that he won't just go to FA tomorrow and pick his best deal They're paying for the right to negotiate exclusively with him. Gives them time to hammer out performance bonuses, trade clauses, term, and actual money paid in each specific year of the deal. Helluva lot better than negotiating while his agent is using multiple other offers to leverage your price up. Even if he goes to market tomorrow the bolts will have a major leg up on everyone else. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jimmybigrigs69 378 Report post Posted June 30, 2024 1 hour ago, AtlantaHotWings said: But you get a bit of extra time to convince him that no state tax is better than an extra year in Carolina with taxes You get to make a whole pitch under no pressure. No other GMs driving up cost and making promises while you scramble to get him to sign on the dotted line. You can put him on the phone with Cooper and explain where he'll be used and who he'll play with. You can pitch the franchise, the staff, the area. Plus you get to find out from Jake and his agent exactly what's important to them in a new contract, and have it tailor made for them before tomorrow. Huge advantage. 3rd rd pick is pricey but there were probably multiple other teams bidding on his negotiating rights. Guentzel is pretty much the last tickle me elmo on black friday. Bribing the store manager with a pick gets you into the store the night before. You can't buy it yet, but you get to see what aisle he's in, what shelf, what price, what financing options there are...so you get a big leg up on the other shoppers when doors open in the morning. 1 town123 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Axl Foley 334 Report post Posted June 30, 2024 On 6/29/2024 at 2:58 PM, Axl Foley said: Stamkos still going to free agency. Tampa looking at Guentzel. 2 hours ago, town123 said: What I mean is why make the trade? It's a waste of a 3rd if Guentzel doesn't sign and goes to FA Jake is signing for 7 years max no matter where he plays, other than Carolina, and there's no guarantee for Tampa that he won't just go to FA tomorrow and pick his best deal Not surprised. They want to replace Stamkos. The Jeannot and Sergachev trades were to free up the cap space for Guentzel. Not sure he is worth the reported numbers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
town123 235 Report post Posted June 30, 2024 3 hours ago, Jimmybigrigs69 said: They're paying for the right to negotiate exclusively with him. Gives them time to hammer out performance bonuses, trade clauses, term, and actual money paid in each specific year of the deal. Helluva lot better than negotiating while his agent is using multiple other offers to leverage your price up. Even if he goes to market tomorrow the bolts will have a major leg up on everyone else. You make valid points. I guess Jake will know that Tampa really flocking wants him, enough to spend a 3rd for his time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 5,136 Report post Posted June 30, 2024 https://x.com/FriedgeHNIC/status/1807524877609382155?t=3dtEADCGMoA-xQ8EAwhvYw&s=19 Take your pick! https://x.com/FriedgeHNIC/status/1807541450806354418?t=XMiDAxRw25Xb5iS9AQOJIg&s=19 Kane return? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 5,136 Report post Posted June 30, 2024 https://x.com/DetroitJoeChapp/status/1807217060054712766?t=EwXlQcDJ0_cdeZHYCA_M_A&s=19 Good quote from Kane's agent 1 Al The Octopus reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akakabuto 1,842 Report post Posted June 30, 2024 One-year deal for Kane. 1 Motor City Mullets reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scott R Lucidi 675 Report post Posted June 30, 2024 4 years, 4 mil per Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 5,136 Report post Posted June 30, 2024 14 minutes ago, Akakabuto said: One-year deal for Kane. https://x.com/PierreVLeBrun/status/1807553041974915114?t=NNlxBUI7VGg64Mshr1Cvsw&s=19 Looks like it 1 Motor City Mullets reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Motor City Mullets 304 Report post Posted June 30, 2024 Yeah - Kane for 1 year...Don't mind that 1 bit - was under the impression he wanted 3 years... 1 Scott R Lucidi reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
