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#2560697 1/3 GDT : Red Wings 1 at Canucks 4

Posted by e_prime on 05 January 2015 - 10:59 AM

 

 

Any scouting report I've ever seen on Weiss mentions his two way game and defensive responsibilities.  But I don't know either.  That's why I'm irritated that nobody has bothered to ask or write about it.  You've got a 5 million dollar player getting 7-10 minutes a night, AND he wasn't playing bad before getting benched.  It's a head scratcher. 

I've never seen anything that says Weiss isn't a defensively responsible forward.  Maybe not "heavy" on the puck... but maybe people get confused about his two-way play because he used to be on one of the s***tiest teams in the league.

 

On top of that, I would be amazed if Holland ever offered a 5 million dollar+ contract to ANY FORWARD that isn't at least a decently responsible two-way player. 




#2560326 All Purpose Grand Rapids Griffins Thread

Posted by e_prime on 03 January 2015 - 02:58 PM

I stopped clicking on it because it seems to not get updates. Since LGW seems to be slowing down considerably these last few years, it's better to consolidate.

Agreed... even the Rumors/Trade section stuff doesn't get much love.  It all just ends up in every other thread.




#2560324 Are the Wings a Contender?

Posted by e_prime on 03 January 2015 - 02:55 PM

You bunch of sarcastic drunks...

 

...I love you.




#2560228 Name That Band

Posted by e_prime on 02 January 2015 - 06:51 PM

Radiohead.

Sphincter wave riders

Butthole Surfers

 

Pledge time at the Frat House




#2560227 Pens aquire David Perron from Oilers

Posted by e_prime on 02 January 2015 - 06:47 PM

 

It's really not, especially when you consider their needs.

 

They're the best team in their division, maybe in their conference. They want the Cup. A late 1st means nothing to them. They need wingers like whoa.

 

Perron scored 30 goals for the Edmonton Oilers. Imagine what he could do in the Pens' top six.

 

Even with Shero not at the helm, the Pens are not afraid to make trades to fill winger needs for Crosby and Malkin.

 

Good trade for them.




#2560120 12/31 GDT : Devils 1 at Red Wings 3

Posted by e_prime on 01 January 2015 - 11:55 AM

Well... now that we're all clear in the knowledge that wingsfan1991 thinks that Weiss is hot garbage... the rest of us can go back to discussing why exactly it is that Weiss is not getting appropriate ice time...

 

 

I just don't get it.  Weiss was brought in to be a 2C.  He's back in game shape, fought off minor injuries since returning from a couple major ones... and now, with limited ice time, he's putting up points... but he's not elevated in the lineup  What gives?

 

Jurco's a rookie... put him on the fourth. He shouldn't mind.

Helm and Abby are energy/banger guys, rotate them onto the fourth. They'll still be effective players.

 

Instead...  No... let's let a guy who's a proven top-six winger languish on the fourth line with limited ice time.  Makes sense to me... :glare:

 

EDIT: removal of troll baiting




#2560119 Lines Thread

Posted by e_prime on 01 January 2015 - 11:45 AM

I still don't understand our "interest" in Vermette.  Do we really need another two-way second line C? 

We're not injury depleted like last year when we traded Eaves, a prospect and a pick for Legwand.

 

This year is it Helm, Pulks, and a pick for Vermette?  

(Plucking names from the roster. Not a realistic representation of what I think it would take to get Vermette)

Anyway you make the trade... I would certainly hope not. 

 

I didn't lose my s*** about the Legwand trade because I thought it was a necessary evil.

This year it would be absolute idiocy!

 

We're healthy *knock on wood* and we have plenty of depth at center.

Vermette is going to be a super expensive rental.

It would be costly to re-sign him.

Which would certainly mean cap woes for re-signing Nyquist, Jurco, Smith, etc.

 

No thank you!

 

We need a right handed offensive minded D-man and, at the right price, a top-six right handed "scoring" winger.

 

Oh wait, don't we have one of those, -- the right handed scoring winger -- down in GR. 

Admittedly, we don't know that Pulks will have an immediate impact at the NHL level...but if we trade him to Arizona we'll certainly never know.




#2560111 12/31 GDT : Devils 1 at Red Wings 3

Posted by e_prime on 01 January 2015 - 10:55 AM

Naw man. herlmer is a god! Weiss doesn't have good hands and didn't consistently put up 50-60 points every year...
On the worst team in the league!

 

Orite!  :blind: 

I forgot that Helm IS God.




#2560108 12/31 GDT : Devils 1 at Red Wings 3

Posted by e_prime on 01 January 2015 - 10:12 AM

Lol you sound serious? Weiss has good hands? He puts up points? What 12 in 15 games? Wait til he's done playing the year and ends up with less then 30. And what he do last year? Helm creates chances on every line he plays on... Sure he doesn't have that finishing touch no arguement there but it's night and day when he's on the ice vs Weiss and Babs knows it.. That's why one plays 16 min and the other is playing 8 min. 5m for 5 years for Weiss is a joke and a half.. Scott Gomez part 2.

Scott Gomez Pt. 2, huh?  You realize that guy didn't score a goal for over a year. 

 

Did you decide to make 2015 the year of the troll?

 

I would point you in the direction of previous years stats, injury history, TOI differences, etc. but I doubt it would have any effect on your selective vision nor change your mind...




#2559897 Do we need a trade to get our offence going ?

Posted by e_prime on 31 December 2014 - 08:01 AM

Of the multitude of Centers that we have, which one is the most likely to be traded?  Which has the greatest return value?  Which the least?

 

Not counting Franzen, as he is typically not a center. 

Including Weiss, Helm, and Andersson -- as they are known as centers who happen to be playing wing.

Not including Z or Dats -- as they're obviously the most valuable to the team; would garner the most return, but will never be traded.

 

Sheahan: (Hopefully) not likely to be traded, highest trade value

(Youth + Two-Way-Play + Future Potential.  He's a keeper.  Even if he ends up just being a 3C and not a 2C)

 

Weiss: Not easily trade-able, and still questionable value -- too early to tell whether any other team values him, as his health remains a question mark.

(I think he could be traded and get good return, but the fact he's not getting a lot of ice time in Detroit, despite his offensive capabilities is a head-scratcher.  Is he getting protected minutes? Does Babcock not trust him?  Does Weiss have a future with this team?)

 

Helm: Most likely to be traded, not huge trade value, but he is a solid third line center with top-6 winger capabilities.  (He's the C, I'd trade first.)

 

Glendenning: Not likely to be traded, not a lot of trade value  (wouldn't want him to be traded)

 

Andersson:  Most likely traded solely as an add on, not a lot of trade value  (would rather he be traded than waived -- he's the current roster's Emdog)




#2559502 12/29 GDT - Red Wings 2 at Bruins 5

Posted by e_prime on 29 December 2014 - 01:11 PM

Makes sense.  Lash is fine.


Well it looks like we all got our Christmas wish with Kindl hurt. I really hope this gives Smith a shot on the PP

Speak for yourself!  I didn't wish for that.  I hoped for good play and a trade.  :D




#2559487 Oilers schedule presser tomorrow

Posted by e_prime on 29 December 2014 - 12:17 PM

What is the big deal with Petry ? Why would someone give up a draft pick to get this guy. He is one of the worst d man on the worst team. The only upside is that he is a right handed shooter and looks like DeKeyser. Only if can be swapped with Kindl straight up.

Who's suggesting giving the Oilers a draft pick?  Besides, they wouldn't know what to do with it anyway...




#2559428 Oilers schedule presser tomorrow

Posted by e_prime on 28 December 2014 - 11:45 AM

 

I don't see why not.  Hell, throw Q in there to sweetin the pot up. I always said Helm would automatically become their best defensive forward plus he'd be an upgrade at the center position behind Hopkins.  K, Q and Helm for Petry and a 2nd round pick.

 

I get that trading Helm allows us to bring up Pulks and that trading Q allows us to keep XO up, but I think that's a tad bit of an overpayment.  Although that 2nd round pick would be quite nice the way EDM is trending.




#2559423 Oilers schedule presser tomorrow

Posted by e_prime on 28 December 2014 - 11:09 AM

why the hell would edm do that even they aren't desperate enough for Hiccup Kindl

 

Why not?

 

They continue to struggle...

MacT doesn't have the balls to trade Hall, or Eberle, or RNH...

He doesn't even have the balls to trade Yak. 

Petry and Perron have been on the block all season and yet here they are still on the team.

 

If he's desperate to keep his job... He'll move guys that don't want to be there for guys he can keep there... if not by choice, but by current contract.

 

They are that desperate. Nine losses in a row. Their last win was Dec 7th.  They haven't strung together a winning streak of any sort this year. The last time they won back to back games was all the way back to Nov 7th. 

A month at a time for a win. (...or if they're lucky two.)

 

They need an upgrade of any sort at C behind RNH.

Boyd Gordon isn't a second line center. Draisaitl is a frigging child.

They need better D.  Schultz is the lone bright spot. He needs help.

They need better goaltending.

How Bachman hasn't gotten a chance is beyond me...

 

Have I stated clearly enough how desperate they should be?

 

So let me restate the case for Kindl to EDM for Petry:

 

Does Petry for Kindl straight up happen? Sure. Why not?

MacT knows that Petry is not going to re-sign in Edmonton next year... he trades him for Kindl who's signed for another two years for a reasonable price... He's doing something... ANYTHING.

It shows the league, "Hey, MacT is ready to make some moves...  EDM is open for business."

 

To make things even more clear, because I know it's the stumbling block for all of you: 

 

Just because Kindl is our whipping boy doesn't mean he's completely worthless.

There. I said it. He isn't. 

Is he great? No, but he's just one piece in a multitude of issues that exist on our defense.




#2559373 12/27 GDT: Red Wings 3 @ Senators 2 (OT)

Posted by e_prime on 27 December 2014 - 09:46 PM

:28 seconds -- three laps of the offensive zone.