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We would f*** that division up

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/hockey/rangers/2011/06/25/2011-06-25_richards_race_favors_rangers.html does any one else find it annoying that teams are able to bail themselves out of terrible contracts by sending players to the minors? Chicago doing with Huet last summer, the Oilers doing it with Souray, the Rangers doing it with Wade Redden. In my opinion, these teams should have to deal with the stupidity they bring upon themselves. Its an absolute cop out and they humiliate these players in the process by sending them to the minors. I hope the next CBA corrects this.

Exactly, i've never heard a bad thing about him, except from opposing goalies. As soon as he found out he was drafted by the Wings he immediately went to the media to gush about Zetterberg and Datsyuk and said it's been a lifelong dream to play with Datsyuk some day... Doesn't sound like a cocky douchebag... Plus, i highly doubt TSN would ever use the phrase "cocky douchebag". And that team would skate circles around last years team...your point?

I just say that you make it so something like 40% of their salary stays up. Then 33% buy-out makes more sense in the offseason and you could still get cap relief by sending someone down, just not total cap relief.

stopped after that..... I see the classless comments and no longer wish to continue this discussion with you. grow up and stop calling people YOU DO NOT KNOW... names. that is pretty rude in my opinion. and just so it is clear... I did call you a tool....because you decided to start the name calling... I wont do it again! I got sucked in and that was MY mistake...

Probably right and I hope so!

My issue isn't with the player, its with the GM's and the team's management. Glen Sather is getting bailed out by this loophole: he gets to stuff a veteran in the minors and he is hoping that Chris Drury's injury is bad enough that he can put him on long term IR. That doesn't sound a little disgusting to you? And the result is now he gets a free shot at Brad Richards...so he can throw more stupid contracts around. It is ridiculous how he doesn't have to pay for his mistakes of offering terrible contracts. I just feel like GMs should not be able to be bailed out like that so easily...

Well first off, Ken Holland has never missed the playoffs during his tenure as the Wings GM...So whatever strategy he's using, I'd say it's a pretty good one. "He let it go without a fight or offer." How do you know this? Are you suggesting Cliff Fletcher walked over to our table and said "I'll give you Burns for free" and Holland turned them down? Essentially, Minnesota got 3 first round picks, all offensive guys, from this deal. The Wings didn't have that kind of depth of young offensive players, so Minnesota turned to someone who did. There are probably a bazillion gajillion trade discussions that happen during the course of the year, and realistically only a slim percentage of those actually result in trades. Ken Holland is a smart guy. He knows what other teams are doing. He knows what our strengths and weaknesses are. One way or another, he's going to address those needs. But he's also going to do it in a way that helps us in the long run, just not this season.

It's very annoying. There's a salary cap for a reason. If you send a player to the minors/overseas...you should be responsible for 50% of his salary against that years cap. Only way I can think of to solve it. Above poster is correct about same agents/players being 'turned off' by how players are treated this way....but that seems like too small of a penalty to me. Wish we could have a soft cap with a 'luxury tax' in the NHL....oh well.

Oh I thought this was the "we're not winning the cup in 2012 thread" my bad.

I swear to God I've seen this exact thread before....

"at the 145 pick, the detroit red wing would like to draft hudon...i mean trade hudler! trade hudler! s***! s***!"

They don't count and you know it . I see what you are saying, but I want to be proved otherwise. Thanks for a discussion.

Can't Babcock be pissed off without blaming Holland? I'm reading this that Babcock is angry because of all teams it had to be Sharks who got Burns.

I think Babs is pissed off because it seems all the good players are being traded to the West. Oh well, just one more year in the West and we can dominate the East In all seriousness, we would have had to send our only defensive ready prospect and a core player of the future and a high draft pick for Burns, who only has one year left on his contract. That's a lot to mortgage for a potential one and done player.

OK, so this is an article from a relatively unknown website, written by someone who clearly doesn't speak the English language very well. Further, he has something written that Babcock would probably never truly say in public. I'm calling BS.

How would we have gotten Burns anyway? Sharks paid a fairly steep price, it may pay off if they can win a championship in the next year or two but Wings couldn't have matched that offer. Many are saying we should've thrown Franzen their way, but I don't think Franzen is equivalent to Setoguchi in terms of trade value. Setoguchi is younger, nearing his prime, still improving, and carrying a less burdensome contract in terms of years. I think Smith would've had to have been involved to get Burns, and I think Holland is wise to not trade Smith given our lack of good, young D prospects.

Nope. Player is a left wing. Dating Carrie Underwood's sister. Wears number 11 because he tends to read upside down and backwards and they didn't want him confused. Skates well.

hmm, maybe with the addition of this new "player" guy nashville can afford to move weber now?

Why is everyone so quick to send off Hudler after one bad season? He deserves at least up until next season's trade deadline before he is moved. If he is sucking up to that point, then i'm for him being traded, but until then, people gotta get off his back. He (and Filppula) were huge assets when the Wings won the Cup in 08.

Maybe Hudler for Wiz's rights and a 2nd?

Better than mustard yellow :puke:

I knew that one was coming! but correct you are!

Yes and none of them are currently on the Wings. esteef

85% of the players in the league qualify for that job