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So pick a year during V-dog's prime and give us you're totally unbiased list of "top 5 goalies" then. Fromm 89 to 95 only Roy and Brodeur were better. Barrasso and Vernon were equals. Richter was a half-step below, Hasek and Belfour were ascending. All these guys are now in the HOF and deservingly so. Including Vernon.

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Is Griess available? Any German hated by his own country sounds amazing.

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IMHO if I was building out a playoff team I would have Solid/Great Goaltending 2 solid D pairs not necessarily of Norris caliber. But guys that clear the pucks, clear the front of the net, block shots and chip in on offense on occasion. 2 solid top lines maybe 1 has my "superstars" on it and my other 2 I can trust in any situation. My 2 lower lines give me nasty goals and pound the other team's superstars at every chance they get. I then keep my guys till I can't afford them and bring in similar replacements on the cheaper side and my superstars are kept for ticket sales.

I've said it before - until now there's been a different set of standards when it comes to goalies elected into the HoF...When you think of HoF netminders - guys instantly pop into your head like Roy, Brodeur, Hasek, and Belfour...But keep in mind guys like Ciccarelli, Andreychuk, and Gartner had also been elected. Many may not realize it, but from 1993 Billy Smith to 2003 Grant Fuhr there were not any goalies elected into the HoF.. All that said - I'm hoping Ozzie gets his due; while not having the Vezina/Selke awards to help his case he certainly has the wins, longevity. and Stanley Cups.

Good on Vernon. I think he deserves to be in. People forget that it's the Hall of FAME and not the Hall of Really Great Careers. As the starting goalie for two very memorable Cup runs, plus the Roy fight, and a really solid career on top of that, I think he fits the bill.

Yzerman has stated that they have been spending a lot of time trying to figure out what to do about Ned and Magnus. So they aren't necessarily gone yet.

I'd rather have Konecny than Debrincat. He's a slightly less offensively talented winger, but only marginally. Conversely, he's marginally more "gritty" than Debrincat. But also he's under contract for two more years @ 5.5 million.

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