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Pretty good to remember how this rebuild started when complaing about whats taking so long.

The Italian stallion is done in the NHL isnt he? He's just never provided... anything. No identity as a player. He's akin to Joakim Andersson or Cory Emmerton. Just completely replaceable. That 2018 draft is nightmare fuel. Holland really cooked us. We had the 6th, the 30, the 33, and the 36th. Zadina is in Europe. Probably Joe now too. Berggren is a weak perimeter forward that probably doesnt survive the next 2 years on this team. And McIsaac is barely surviving in the Czech league. Wild.

Yeah, and honestly the length of this rebuild - SY going slow and steady - is fine with me. Might not be exactly what I'd do in this particular moment, but I can understand the approach and why. The only thing that actually pisses me off about this rebuild is SY's inaction at TDL's. I won't get into all that again in this thread, but for 2 years now I haven't been able to find anyone around the boards who can come up with a reasonable excuse for it, and most won't even try to defend it. It's bad. It's wrong. And I could abide this rebuild for much longer if he'd least stop doing that (by doing somdthing). *Mandatory comment about Detroit being a city in Minnesota*

Ken Holland in a nutshell.

He works at The Hockey News. https://x.com/thetonyferrari?s=21&t=JxEbYPU8e6g9RkL90J2iZg

I don't mind this move. Especially since I believe Verbeek was asking for a 1st in return for Gibson last year. If you look at Gibson's career numbers, he was great, and then plummetted down to average at the exact time the Ducks as a team fell apart. He'll be the guy heading into the season, and if he plays like everyone knows he can we may FINALLY have a clear cut #1 and we can put to rest this dopey 3goalie sharing the net BS. Then after this season Talbot will be gone and Cossa can come up and learn from a guy who's actually been a true #1. Its a good gamble to take - but by god does Stevie love playing with new project goalies every couple months. Lets hope this one proves to hold up. Would really help our Goals Against.

I've relayed this info b4, but I'll repeat it again quick now: There's a gentleman on HF whose father played in the OHL and a limited number of games for the Wings back in the day. He claims to be close to scouts, and has posted reliable insider info in the past. According to him, the belief among Wings brass and ownership is the rebuild is NOT over and it will not be over until the 2027/28 season. That we need this coming season plus one more, and then we will be fully loaded and able to go all in on a cup run. If true, lets break that down: 2027/28 Forwards: Larkin (31) - $8.7 Raymond (25) - $8.08 Compher (32) - $5.1 Rasmussen (28) - $3.2 Possible additional forwards: MBN (22), Danielson (23), Lombardi (24), Berggren (27), Soderblom (26), Bear (21), Kiiskinen (22), Mazur (25), Finnie (22), Plante (21), Buchnelikov (24), Kasper (23) 2027/28 Defense: Seider (26) - $8.55 Possible additional Dmen: Edvinsson (24), Albert Johansson (26), ASP (22), Buium (24), Wallinder (25), Cleveland (22), Anton Johansson (23) 2027/28 Net: Presumed: Cossa (25) and Augustine (22) When you look at the ages of those players in 2027/28, does it not seem like that will be exactly the correct time to insert all that youth? And when you look at our contract situation, all of our big contracts, besides JTC, are done in the next 2 years. So what I'm suggesting is: We might be dissapointed by Yzerman's action this offseason. There's a strong possibility he will not sign or trade for anything significant (bc of reluctance to commit to term). Because the next 2 seasons will be about shedding our cocoon, and becoming the butterfly. The cocoon being Chiarot, Tarasenko, Copp, Mrazek, Talbot, Kane, Debrincat, Holl, and Gustafsson. Most all the young players I listed are progressing extremely well and should be able to be eased on to the roster in the next 2 years, or directly inserted onto the roster in 2027/28. And with a young talented cheap roster like that we will be able to go big game hunting for anything we may want in the 2027 offseason.