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Well, he's going to the right team Green Bay (Fudge) Packers

And this is why the red wings were about five years in the hole when steve Yzerman took over.

Eh. 3 weeks takes us to October 8th. The wings' season opener is on October 9th. He'll probably be ready

Danielson to make the roster PLEASE!

Big win today. Everything looked better. Playcalling. The O-line. The run game. Everything. It's the Bears sure, but IMO this team has gotten quickly back on track. Reminder: last week the bears nearly beat the vikings. We just CRUSHED them. I'm losing faith in Terrion Arnold. They talked all preseason about how much progress he's made, and how he plays like a CB1... Through 2 games he's getting burned ALOT. The rookie interior-line played MUCH better this week. 50 POINTS BETCH FUQ ON THE GOFFENSE out

Lions have made their training camp cuts and it looks like this is our starting lineup week 1: OFFENSE QB: Jared Goff RB: Jahmyr Gibbs & David Montgomery WR: Amon-Ra St. Brown, Jameson Wlliams, & Tim Patrick TE: Sam LaPorta C: Graham Glasgow G: Christian Mahogany & Tate Ratledge T: Taylor Decker & Penei Sewell DEFENSE DT: DJ Reader & Tyleik Williams EDGE: Aiden Hutchinson & Marcus Davenport LB: Alex Anzalone, Jack Campbell, & Derrick Barnes CB: Terrion Arnold & DJ Reed S: Brian Branch & Kerby Joseph On offense.... we are incredibly stacked at the skill positions. We should continue to be a run first team, with Goff improvising as needed being the great play reader he is. However, the interior offensive line took some huge hits with Ragnow (C) retiring and Zeitler (G) going to the Titans. Glasgow is a decent vet, but nowhere close to Ragnow level. 2nd year Mahogany looked good as a backup guard last year, and rookie Ratledge looks great as well, but they are both youngggg and I expect some mistakes. I expect new offensive coordinator Morton will have more outside running plays in his book than we saw last year. Plays where tackles Sewell and Decker are the lead blockers, taking some pressure off our young interior linemen. At wide reciever, if anyone gets injured this year, its no worries. Rookie Isaac Teslaa looks like a beast and should be able to step up immedeately. Believe he will be WR4 or WR5 to start the season. On defense... we are already banged up (bc of course we would be). Our best nose tackle Alim McNeil wont play till week 4, and starting linebacker Malcolm Rodriguez is out until November. Fortunately, rookie DT Tyleik Williams looks really good, just young, and new backup DT Roy Lopez looks pretty solid as well. And at LB Derrick Barnes is a solid stand in for Rodriguez. Whats improved about the defense is our backfield. DJ Reed at CB is a solid upgrade over last year, and Terrion Arnold is entering his 2nd year at CB and looks much better already than his rookie season. I do wish we had a better edge rusher than Davenport to pair with Hutchinson... but it is what is. Other interesting notes... Lions waived newly drafted edge rusher Ahmed Hassanein. He's out for 3-4 months with an injury. He looked really good in preseason, so i dont think the Lions are trying to lose him, they just want the extra roster spot, and with his injury I dont think another team will claim him (i hope). They also cut offensive lineman Dan Skipper - he will be the only player from last year that scored a touchdown not returning. Rookie defensive backs Ennis Rakestraw and Dan Jackson are also already out for the season with injuries. We now have a 50 man roster of the max 53. So we have 3 extra spots to claim someone or make other moves next week. I could see the Lions bringing back edge rusher Zdarius Smith, or even Dan Skipper once the dust settles. Superbowl here we come.

I hope you're right... it's been incredibly frustrating watching Montreal lap our rebuild AND have pieces with higher ceilings... in-part due to luck but largely due to shrewd aggressive moves by their management.

It seems pretty clear to me that the idea has always been to build a playoff team through the draft AND THEN make the bold move or two that puts the team over the top. I'm not sure whether that's the right thing to do or not, I guess we'll see. I agree that he's conservative, but I'm not sure whether he's bad or good overall as a GM. Our drafting is really really good, and I think the organization is moving in the right direction. I also think he's had a few missteps also the way that have delayed things a bit. For instance, it's not really hard to imagine a defense corps last season with Walman, Maatta, and Gostisbehere instead of Petry, Holl, and Gustafsson might very well have put us in the playoff picture. He's been really great at finding the building blocks, but not so great at rounding out the roster, and that has delayed playoff hockey by a year or two IMO.

In light of the news reports that Detroit management only ever wanted Klim Kostin to be "an enforcer" and nothing else, I can't help but re-iterate how badly I think SY and Lalonde handled that situation. According to Kostin the Detroit brass made it very clear that they only wanted him to fight and not play actual hockey and that he wasn't interested in playing that kind of game. I'm not sure why we'd trade for a guy AND buy out another player's contract if we weren't sure he would actually fill the role we intended for him. I'm also not sure how/why we didn't have room for him to play actual physical hockey on the 3rd line considering all our bottom six wingers were either A) redundant, or B) milktoast af. Like, isn't Kostin the exact player that management hopes Sodorblom will be? It's not some organization altering failure or anything, but it's pretty hard to see what the plan was with that one.

The pass rush needs to be totally different. If you can't pressure the QB with 4 guys YOU NEED to blitz ur linebackers. We "supposedly" have a great defensive back core so we gotta trust them to cover and bring more guys to attack the line scrimmage. On offense ur studs are your tackles. WHY TF ARE THEY NOT UR LEAD BLOCKERS ON THE MAJORITY OF RUN PLAYS??? St Brown is the most reliable WR1 in the league. Jamo can run deep and take the top off a defense. Teslaa can bring down about any high ball. We utilized absolutely 0% of those strengths. TLDR: John Morton is bad and i dont like him.

Ya boys done did it. Honestly Packers looked good... but the Lions gave that game away. The play calling was unbelievably bad. The narrative about the Lions losing both coordinators = suck, may very well be true. Morton clearly had no idea how to use his weapons, and Sheps defense wasnt much better. Campbell defended them saying they need time to adjust and work out kinks... but holy fuq that was bad. And what we all feared was glaring: the interior O-line, our biggest strength the last few years, SUCKED BALLS. Glasgow is a poor mans #1 center. Mahogany got mauled. Rookie Ratledge made rookie mistakes. We cannot implement our 1/2 run game without a good O line. And Goff doesnt have the protected pocket to pass effectively. Of course... a smart coordinator could work around that. Implement outside run plays and use our blocking WRs. But unfortantely Morton is apparently regarded and only wants to run highschool bubble screens. WHY TF IS GIBBS RUNNING UP THE CENTER ON A 5 YARD RUN PLAY U FUQQING MORON. Packies deserved that win. We were nancies out there and Ben Johnson is gonna make us look like stupid next week unless Campbell does some serious shidt this week to his shidt coordinators.

> Gibbs/Montgomery are arguably the best runningback duo in the country. Nicknamed Sonic (Gibbs) and Knuckles (Monty), because Gibbs is the fast elusive back, and Monty is the strong power punching back. Theyre our one/two punch in the offensive game, and we play a run first offense. >QB Goff can barely run or scramble, so he stays in the pocket and uses a lot of play action (faking the hand off to the running back and then passing) >our WR's are really good >our defense is an old school throwback. A lot of blitzing, alot of focus on stopping the run, a lot of man to man press coverage in the backfield. >edge rusher Aidan Hutchinson will likely be up for defensive player of the year if he stays healthy, and should be flirting with breaking the single season sack record. >the exciting rookie is Isaac Teslaa. Big white kid who plays WR and is from Michigan. The general zeitgeist is the Lions window is wide open, but we gotta get it done. Lots of key injuries have cost in the past so were terrified of injuries and need the team to stay healthy. Our offense is arguably the most high powered in the league, but our defense is only average. But our D could be elite if guys stay healthy.

I'd agree with this more or less. I expect all of Edvinsson, Kasper, Johansson, and Sodorblom to be better this year than last. For Edvinsson that means continuing to be a defensive rock against top players, taking on (and excelling) a bigger role of the penalty kill, and (hopefully) becoming more of a difference maker with his even strength offense (which was already quite good). For Kasper it means spending a full season in the top six at center and anchoring his own line. His line will get easier usage than Larkin's (because Dcat and Kane are likely to be his wingers) but he'll still need to take his defensive assignments seriously and make sure the line isn't getting caved defensively. I'd also consider it "growth" if he continued his offensive output from last year because he'd be doing it against better players. Given how young they are, if both those guys reach those benchmarks I think you can comfortably say they're fully on track to be difference making NHLers throughout the remainder of their careers. Edvinsson as an all situations workhorse who can shutdown the league's best, and Kasper as a 200-ft, two-way, matchup center with plenty of offense to be a top-of-the-league 2C. For Sodorblom I'm looking for complimentary scoring. I think he understands that he's going to have to use his body more in the NHL than he did at lower levels and I saw movement in that direction last year. I don't expect him to blow guys up, but if he can use his size to increase his offensive output (kinda like Franzen) by protection pucks down low and learning to score around the net, I think that's growth. But what I really want to see is growth in his confidence/mindset. He's got the ability to be a difference maker as a 3rd line wing if he grows out of the young player "deferential" mindset and starts being assertive with the puck. If he begins to impose himself a little more with the puck on his stick I think he'll score 20 goals and be a real down lineup asset. For Johanson I think growth means that he takes over a spot on the 3rd pair and embraces a role centered on eliminating depth scoring against Detroit. I think he was above his head on the 2nd pair last year and did the best he could. But ideally I think he's a guy that can be a difference maker on the 3rd pair by erasing easy goals against from depth players. Nothing is more back breaking than giving up a goal to some 3rd/4th line pud because you just killed off a penalty or ended a powerplay and all your good players are on the bench getting a breather. I think Aljo would excel in a role like this and have plenty of room for growth as a matchup guy. Trouble is, even if all this happens it may not be enough to propel us into a playoff spot. We badly need to solve the 1st line LW and 2nd pair RHD questions adequately. So far my money is on Copp/Ras for the 1st line winger spot, and Bernard Docker for the 2nd pair RHD spot. I'm not sure Copp or Ras would excel offensively in that role, but at least they wouldn't get caved defensively against the league's best. That's my worry with Van Reimsdyk. I'm actually reasonably optimistic that Bernard Docker will be an improvement over either of Johansson or Petry on the 2nd pair tho. I think he's primed to take a bigger role than he's had elsewhere and run with it. I'm expecting him to be a more physical Olli Maatta.

This is a franchise year for the Lions IMO. The rebuild has been amazing. Weve set records and made waves in the playoffs... but havent gotten it done... yet. Now this is the first season weve had to shed talent, or at least not add. And more importantly, weve lost our amazing coordinators. This is the season Dan Campbell proves hes either an elite coach, or someone who needs strong coordinators. Id love too see us take a lil off the gas in regular season, to go farther in the post.

He's still living in Detroit and dating Detroit rapper Kashdoll. He seemed to love being a Lion and was a loud vet presence on the bench. Not sure what the hold up is, but I bet he signs soon or not at all. This is why a FMichael sucks thread exists

Obligatory football sucks post

Welp WR Tim Patrick was traded to the Jags this morning for a 6th rounder. Meaning the big boy rookie from Hudsonville, Teslaa, won the WR3 spot and will start.

We only have 2 assistant coaches. Get Feds on the bench.

Lived next to Lil Cs on Grand River at MSU. Would dig through couch cushions and car doors until I had $5. Hot n readys kept me alive. The Illitch family are angels.

Isnt 2023 the exact time the $5 hot n ready became the $5.55 hot n ready? I remember bc my family nearly starved that year until we adjusted our pizza budget. Chris Illitch is a monster

Well played Chris well played From this article https://www.freep.com/story/sports/columnists/carlos-monarrez/2025/08/20/ilitch-should-have-felt-betrayed-but-fedorov-ceremony-buries-hatchet/85729839007/ "Fedorov was a marvel and watching him was often worth the price of admission alone. And if you want to attend the ceremony in January, you’ll have to pony up because the ticket is part of a five-game package. And it’s only fitting that it comes against the Hurricanes."