Finally the Walman trade seems to make sense. It wasn´t just a cap dump or Walman being some dickhead. Yzerman wanted #11 from Buffalo but knew they would ask for a kings ransom from a division rival. So he gave a 2nd rd pick to SJ for the trade up + Walman and will now get #11 for #15
Thank god the "Mo and Joe" show is over, and Seider is training with Stutzle in Mannheim. I have no problem with him returning to Germany if he's training with other top league players like this. @Jonas Mahonas is a troll idiot who should go back to making pizzas.
you could play Määtä and Ghost and have Holl as seventh D. Anyway it´s one of the nicer problems to have. Can´t remember the last time we had a D corps that deep and potentially good.
https://www.nhl.com/player/jonatan-berggren-8481013
197lb it says, seems like he ate plenty of sweets and burgers because weakling euros don´t train at home
Jonas clearly just looks at stats. He sees 'from Sweden, 5'11"', and makes the conclusion that he is a weakling Euro who cannot make anything happen on the ice. Just like he reads that Raymond spends the summer in his home country, therefore could not possibly be hitting up a gym there.
This is another instance in which I don't think we're seeing the same things. I saw Berggren making plays all over the ice that his linemates couldn't finish, not the other way around. At one point his linemates were Zadina and Veleno, there was no chance either of those dudes were finishing the plays he set up.
Nobody is suggesting the Tkachuk brothers. I'd take Jake Debrusk (as an example). I don't like the idea of Kane for a few reasons:
One, he almost certainly doesn't want to play here so we'd have to pay A LOT to change his mind. Recall that the only trade he was willing to entertain out of Chicago was to NYC. That's it.
Two, at this point in his career he's probably not better than Debrincat, but is better than Raymond. So either you play all three of those midgets in the top six (and lose every board battle you have) or Raymond sees his ice time diminish...which is obviously not ideal for his development.
Three, it's not even like you could flip him at the deadline for quality draft picks. He was so picky about his landing spot last year that Chicago lost all leverage and only got conditional 2nd round pick and a 4th. He has less trade value than most rentals and he's not going to put us over the top and/or sign longer term...so what's the point?
Edvinsson had surgery in May with an expected 4-6 month recovery time. He'll be in GR to get back into game shape.
It's ridiculous to expect a 20-year-old defenseman, who cannot put in work at the gym all summer, to step into the NHL and produce to start the season. Let's be realistic here.
100%, and I don't think enough is made of the fact that having top six centers that score 70-90 pts and play excellent defense is a better situation than having someone that scores 100+ that gets shut down and/or can't stop other (marginally less talented) opposing forwards. Yzerman is building a powerhouse, the right way, and I think we're only a year or two of development away from seeing that strategy bear fruit.
But this year seems like the first year with a deep roster. Neither Copp nor Compher are good 2C´s but around average. That gives us for the first time in years a competitive top nine and an improved D with Seider and Walman paired right away.
I like our chances, still not great but, like our prospect pool, with potential.
But this year seems like the first year with a deep roster. Neither Copp nor Compher are good 2C´s but around average. That gives us for the first time in years a competitive top nine and an improved D with Seider and Walman paired right away.
I like our chances, still not great but, like our prospect pool, with potential.
He really is doing it the smart way. He’s appeasing ownership and fans (somewhat) by icing a better hockey club every year by means of his own picks really working out and acquiring these stop gaps like you said with full intention of moving them for picks and truly better pieces without handcuffing the future at all. A lot of GMs are out there playing checkers, this Yzerman mother f’r is playing chess
I’m not sure most people outside of Detroit’s fan base are fully aware of what kind of s*** show Yzerman actually walked into. Amazing to see how much hate he was getting before the DeBrincate trade too. I think hes done an amazing job even without that, but obviously he hit a home run bringing him here.
It's all Stevie Y, and Mo is a product of him.
That said Mo is a generational talent. I stand by that. He's 22 and arguably one of the best Dmen in the league. He's on pace to shatter hitting and blocked shot records. He also scores points if that matters. We drafted our own Chelios.
53 is going to end up in the rafters one day.
I think it´s a combination. Seider, as a future top five d-man in the league, and Yzerman, as a successfull GM and player, both make players around the league believe in the redwings. Whereas in the last Holland times ppl only came to Detroit when they were too old and overpaid. You need good cornerstones as much as a competent GM to lure players into playing for you and luckily we have both and our team starts to be the place to be again.
But I have to admit, that without Yzerman having the balls to pick Seider at #6 and recognizing what type of player he could be, it could have taken a lot longer to be where we are now.
Ok, this is probably going to be a long post, I am going to try to cover all the drafts, signings and trades that Yzerman has made since he came home. I think once it is done up to date, we will see that he has moved us much closer and faster to glory than Holland could ever had dreamed of. With that being said I will start with what Holland left us with his last season. YEAR ONE
2018-2019 Red Wings:
Record: 32-40-10 (74 points), Finished 7th in NHL Atlantic Division
Detroit Red Wings hire Steve Yzerman as GM and VP 4-19-2019
5-01-2019 : Signed C Joseph Veleno to a three-year, entry-level contract.
5-05-2019 : Signed D Dylan McIlrath to a two-year, $1.4 million contract extension.
5-28-2019 : Signed D Oliwer Kaski to a one-year, entry-level contract.
6-22-2019 : The Buffalo Sabres acquired a 2019 fifth round pick (#143, Filip Cederqvist(LW)) from Detroit Red Wings for 2019 sixth round pick (#177, Gustav Berglund(D)) & 2019 seventh round pick (#191, Carter Gylander (G))
2019 Draft:
7-01-2019 : Signed C Valtteri Filppula to a two-year, $3 million contract. Signed D Patrik Nemeth to a two-year, $6 million contract. Signed G Calvin Pickard to a two-year, $1.4 million contract.
7-14-2019 : Signed D Moritz Seider to a three-year, entry-level contract.
8-14-2019 : The Tampa Bay Lightning acquired a 2020 fourth round pick ( #116, Eamon Powell (D)) from the Detroit Red Wings for Adam Erne
10-06-2019 : The Detroit Red Wings acquired Alex Biega from Vancouver Canucks for David Pope
10-23-2019 : Waived D Jonathan Ericsson.
10-28-2019 : The Detroit Red Wings acquired Brendan Perlini from the Chicago Blackhawks for Alec Regula
11-06-2019 : The St. Louis Blues traded Robby Fabbri to the Detroit Red Wings for Jacob De La Rose
11-30-2019 : The Detroit Red Wings acquired Eric Comrie from the Arizona Coyotes for Vili Saarijarvi
12-09-2019 : Waived D Madison Bowey.
12-12-2019 : The Detroit Red Wings acquired Kyle Wood from the Carolina Hurricanes for Oliwer Kaski
12-18-2019 : Waived G Eric Comrie.
2-21-2020 : Acquired D Cody Goloubef off waivers from Ottawa Senators.
2-23-2020 : The Edmonton Oilers acquired Mike Green from the Detroit Red Wings for a conditional 2020 fourth round pick (conditions weren't met, we kept the #107 (Bednar) pick) and Kyle Brodziak
2-24-2020 : Acquired LW Dmytro Timashov off waivers from the Toronto Maple Leafs.
2-24-2020 : The Edmonton Oilers acquired Andreas Athanasiou and Ryan Kuffner from the Detroit Red Wings for Sam Gagner, 2020 second round pick (#45 traded to LA (Brock Faber (D) for #51 (Theodor Niderbach) & 2020 4th (#97 Sam Stange) and 2021 second round pick (traded NYI (#52 Atu Raty) along with Richard Panik for Nick Leddy on 7-16-2021)
2020 Seasons stats:
Record: 17-49-5 (39 points), Finished 8th in NHL Atlantic Division
Significant step backwards, did we try to tank? Either way, this was expected with the mess Holland left and Yzerman trying to patch holes.
2020-2021 Season
4-29-2020 : Signed LW Mathias Brome to a one-year, two-way contract worth $925,000.
8-24-2020 : Signed C Robby Fabbri to a two-year, $5.9 million contract extension.
9-26-2020 : Acquired D Marc Staal and a 2021 second-round draft pick from the New York Rangers (traded to Dallas (Artem Grushnikov) along with #23 (acquired in Mantha deal) (Wyatt Johnston)) and 2021 5th (Ottawa #138 (Jack Barr) for 2021 1st (#15 Sebastian Cossa)) for future considerations. It is unknown what the future consideration were.
10-06-2020 : Red Wings buyout Abdelkader contract
2020 NHL Draft
Day 2 draft day trades:
10-7-2020 : The Los Angeles Kings acquired 2020 second round pick (#45 (Brock Faber)) from the Detroit Red Wings for 2020 second round pick (#51 (Neiderbach)) and 2020 fourth round pick (#97 (Stange))
10-7-2020 : The Minnesota Wild acquired 2020 third round pick (#65 (original Sharks (Daemon Hunt))) from the Detroit Red Wings for 2020 third round pick (#70 (Eemil Viro)) and 2020 fifth round pick (#132 (Alex Cotton))
10-7-2020 : The St. Louis Blues acquired 2021 seventh round pick (#198 (Ivan Vorobyov)) from the Detroit Red Wings for 2020 seventh round pick (#203 (Chase Bradley))
10-9-2020 : Signed RW Bobby Ryan to a one-year, $1 million contract. Signed D Jon Merrill to a one-year $925,000 contract. Signed D Troy Stecher to a two-year, $3.4 million contract. Signed G Thomas Greiss to a two-year, $7.2 million contract. Signed C Vladislav Namestnikov to a two-year, $4 million contract.
1-09-2021 : The Red Wings claimed Christian Djoos off waivers
2-14-2021 : DeKeyser was waived by the Detroit Red Wings
2-21-2021 : Nielsen was waived by the Detroit Red Wings
3-03-2021 : Filppula was waived by Detroit
4-09-2021 : The Colorado Avalanche acquired Patrik Nemeth from the Detroit Red Wings for a 2022 fourth round pick (#129 (Maximilian Kilpinen))
4-10-2021 : The Detroit Red Wings acquired David Savard from the Columbus Blue Jackets for Brian Lashoff. The Tampa Bay Lightning acquired David Savard from the Detroit Red Wings for a 2021 fourth round pick (#128 later traded to Vegas (Jakub Demek) along with #38 (Daniil Chayka) for #36 (Shai Buium))
4-11-2021 : The Montreal Canadiens acquired Jon Merrill from the Detroit Red Wings for a 2021 fifth round pick (traded to Dallas (Jack Bar)) and Hayden Verbeek
4-12-2021 : The Washington Capitals acquired Anthony Mantha from the Detroit Red Wings for Richard Panik, Jakub Vrana, 2021 first round pick (dealt in Cossa deal) and 2022 second round pick (#52 (Dimitri Buchelnikov))
4-16-2021 : Raymond signed a three-year, entry-level contract with the Detroit Red Wings on Friday. The deal will begin with the 2021-22 season.
2021 Season Stats:
Record: 19-27-10 (48 points), Finished 7th in NHL Central Division
Slight improvement, especially since it was another shortened season.
2021-2022 Season:
5-20-2021 : Jonatan Berggren signed a three-year, entry-level contract
7-16-2021 : The Detroit Red Wings acquired Nick Leddy from the New York Islanders for Richard Panik and 2021 second round pick (#52 - from Edmonton (Atu raty))
7-21-2021: The Seattle Kraken acquired Dennis Cholowski from the Detroit Red Wings in the expansion draft
7-22-2021 : The Detroit Red Wings acquired Alex Nedeljkovic from the Carolina Hurricanes for a 2021 third round pick (Originally Vegas pick acquired in Tatar trade (Holland deal) #94 (Aidan Hreschuk)) and Jonathan Bernier
2021 Draft
Draft Day Trades:
7-23-2021 : The Detroit Red Wings acquired 2021 first round pick (#15 (Cossa)) from the Dallas Stars for 2021 first round pick (#23 (Wyatt Johnson)), 2021 second round pick (#48 originally Rangers in acquired Staal trade (Atrem Grusnikov)), and 2021 fifth round pick (#138 originally Ottawa pick acquired via Montreal in Merrill trade (Jack Bar))
7-24-2021 : The Detroit Red Wings acquired 2021 Second Round Pick (#36 (Buium) from the Vegas Golden Knights for 2021 Second Round Pick (#38 (Chayka)) and 2021 Fourth Round Pick (#128 (Demek))
7-24-2021 : The Vegas Golden Knights acquired 2021 fourth round pick (#102 (Jakub Brabenec)) from the Detroit Red Wings for 2021 fourth round pick (#114 (Red Savage)) and 2021 fifth round pick (#155 (Oscar Plandowski))
7-28-2021 : Suter signed a two-year, $6.5 million contract. Oesterle signed a two-year, $2.7 million contract.
7-29-2021 : Witkowski signed a two-year contract.
7-30-2021 : The Detroit Red Wings acquired Mitchell Stephens from the Tampa Bay Lightning for 2022 sixth round pick (traded to LA #169 (Jared Wright))
7-31-2021 : Bertuzzi (back) signed a two-year, $9.5 million contract
8-10-2021 : Vrana agreed to terms on a three-year, $15.75 million contract
8-19-2021 : Red Wings buyout Frans Nielsen contract
12-14-2021 : Robby Fabbri signed a three-year, $12 million extension
1-19-2022 : The Red Wings claimed Gemel Smith off waivers from Tampa Bay
2-18-2022 : Gemel Smith was placed on waivers
3-06-2022 : Olli Juolevi was claimed by Detroit from Florida off waivers
3-20-2022 : The Los Angeles Kings acquired Troy Stecher from the Detroit Red Wings for 2022 seventh round pick (#212 (Brennan Ali))
3-21-2022 : The St. Louis Blues acquired Nick Leddy and Luke Witkowski from the Detroit Red Wings for Oskar Sundqvist, Jake Walman, and 2023 second round pick (#42 (Andrew Gibson))
3-21-2022 : The Dallas Stars acquired Vladislav Namestnikov from the Detroit Red Wings for a 2024 4th Round Pick
4-24-2022 : Edvinsson signed a three-year, entry level contract
2022 Season Stats:
Record: 32-40-10 (74 points), Finished 6th in NHL Atlantic Division
5-16-2022 : Pontus Andreasson signed a one-year contract
5-22-2022 : Steven Kampfer signed a one-year deal
6-09-2022 : Elmer Soderblom signed a three-year, entry-level contract
2022 Draft:
7-8-2022 : The Detroit Red Wings acquired Ville Husso from the St Louis Blues for 2022 third round pick (#73 (Aleksanteri Kaskimaki))
7-13-2022 : Marco Kasper signed a three-year, entry-level deal
7-13-2022 : Copp penned a five-year, $28.125 million contract. Maatta agreed to terms on a one-year, $2.25 million deal. Chiarot signed a four-year, $19 million contract. Kubalik signed a two-year, $5 million contract. Perron signed a two-year, $9.5 million contract.
7-25-2022 : Hagg agreed to terms on a one-year, $800,000 contract.
8-10-2022 : Walman signed a one-year, $1.05 million contract
8-26-2022 : Zadina signed a three-year, $5.475 million contract extension
11-23-2022 : Detroit claimed Magnus Hellberg off waivers from Seattle
12-19-2022 : The Detroit Red Wings acquired Michael Del Zotto from the Florida Panthers for Givani Smith. The Anaheim Ducks acquired Michael Del Zotto from the Anaheim Ducks for Danny O'Regan.
12-23-2022 : Amadeus Lombardi signed a three-year. entry-level contract with Detroit.
1-18-2023 : The Detroit Red Wings acquired Jasper Weatherby from the San Jose Sharks for Kyle Criscuolo.
2-16-2023 : Olli Maatta signed a two-year, $6 million contract extension
2-28-2023 : Jake Walman agreed to terms on a three-year, $10.2 million contract extension
3-01-2023 : Dylan Larkin signed an eight-year, $69.6 million contract extension
3-01-2023 : The Vancouver Canucks acquired Filip Hronek and a 2023 fourth round pick (#105 (Ty Mueller)) from the Detroit Red Wings for a 2023 first round pick (#17 original Islanders (Axel Sandin Pellikka)) and 2023 second round pick (traded to Nashville (#43 (Felix Nilsson)) for #47 (Brady Cleveland) and #147 (Kevin Backer))
3-02-2023 : The Boston Bruins acquired Tyler Bertuzzi from the Detroit Red Wings for a 2024 1st round pick (possibly going to Ottawa in Debincat deal) and a 2025 4th round pick
3-03-2023 : Alex Chiasson signed a one-year contract
3-03-2023 : The St. Louis Blues acquired Jakub Vrana from the Detroit Red Wings for Dylan McLaughlin and a 2025 7th round pick
3-03-2023 : The Minnesota Wild acquired Oskar Sundqvist from Detroit Red Wings for a 2023 4th round pick (#117 (Larry Keenan))
3-09-2023 : The Arizona Coyotes acquired Steven Kampfer from the Detroit Red Wings for future considerations
3-28-2023 : Carter Mazur agreed to terms on a three-year, entry-level contract
2022-2023 Season Stats:
Record: 35-37-10 (80 points), 7th in NHL Atlantic Division
Again, slight improvement, more kids playing and more assets acquired.
2023 Off Season thus far:
2023 Draft
6-29-2023 : Kailer Yamamoto and Klim Kostin were traded to the Detroit Red Wings from the Edmonton Oilers on Thursday in exchange for future considerations.
Draft Day 2 Trades:
6-29-2023 : The Nashville Predators acquired a 2023 2nd round pick (#43 (Felix Nilsson)) from the Detroit Red Wings for a 2023 2nd round pick (#47 (Brady Cleveland)) and 2023 5th round pick (#147 (Kevin Bicker))
6-30-2023 : Kailer Yamamoto contract bough out.
7-01-2023 : Klim Kostin signed a two-year contract. James Reimer signed a one-year, $1.5 million contract. Justin Holl signed a three-year, $10.2 million deal. Alex Lyon signed a two-year, $1.8 million contract. Daniel Sprong signed a one-year, $2 million contract. JT Compher signed a five-year, $25.5 million contract. Shayne Gostisbehere signed a one-year, $4.15 million contract.
7-02-2023 : Christian Fischer signed a one-year, $1.125 million contract.
7-03-2023 : Filip Zadina was placed on waivers for purpose of contract termination.
7-08-2023 : John Lethemon signed a one-year, two-way contract
7-09-2023 : The Detroit Red Wings acquired Alex DeBrincat from the Ottawa Senators for Dominik Kubalik, Donovan Sebrango, a conditional 2024 1st round pick, and a 2024 4th round pick.
There were a lot of minor league transactions I did not include, along with a lot of recalls and waivers and demotions. If you look at what Holland left us compared to today, the Yzerplan is working, and working well. I predict we will be in the playoffs this season.
Please feel free to add to this things I may have missed. Thanks for reading this all!
I think it´s a combination. Seider, as a future top five d-man in the league, and Yzerman, as a successfull GM and player, both make players around the league believe in the redwings. Whereas in the last Holland times ppl only came to Detroit when they were too old and overpaid. You need good cornerstones as much as a competent GM to lure players into playing for you and luckily we have both and our team starts to be the place to be again.
But I have to admit, that without Yzerman having the balls to pick Seider at #6 and recognizing what type of player he could be, it could have taken a lot longer to be where we are now.
How would everyone feel about signing Kane to play with Larks & Cat? I feel like it would immediately boost our ability to have 2 good scoring lines and a very good 3rd line.
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