Yzerfan75 0 Report post Posted July 3, 2007 Everyone is panicing like we just lost the heart of our team. Bert is not an enforcer, is a defensive liability while on the ice and was probably asking for WAY to much. Well, you know, I agree with you...but this is getting a little bizarre, don't you think? What is Kenny waiting for? A ridiculously long and overpaid deal for Hasek...who MAY have a great year like last year...but who could also blow out like he did for us before and for Ottawa? I've never been one to ride the Bash Ken Holland Train...but this is sort of absurd now. He's not bringing in new blood (save for Rafalski...which I contemplate the offensive power that he (doesn't) bring)...and he's not retaining old blood. Wasn't this the year that he hinted at for being THE year with mad free agent signings? (I seem to remember him saying as much to the Free Press or Detroit News). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kindlwillbegreat 0 Report post Posted July 3, 2007 LOL !!!!!!!!!!!! are you f'n kidding me ????????? LOL i just got home and saw it online , thats hilarious man , i knew that punk would leave all that talk about wanting to stay here was bs , but too top it all off the ducks go after 2 of our players ??? LMAO man i hope to god kenny goes after penner now and gives him a nice offer sheet , or goes after guerin we need some physical forwards now , and i hope when we play the duck chelios takes a nice shot on his lower back and knocks him out lmao Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IceMunkee 15 Report post Posted July 3, 2007 He got a 2 year 8 mil. Good ridance he is not worth $4mil a year!!! KENNY. I believe but your making it hard! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flip-check 6 Report post Posted July 3, 2007 When Mr. Holland is going to secure our goaltending situation than we will be better... If Dom fades out, that will be time for lgw to blow up. I don't think it will happen though.... I think? Maybe they're just saving up for Sergei .. that would cheer me up Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kindlwillbegreat 0 Report post Posted July 3, 2007 He got a 2 year 8 mil. Good ridance he is not worth $4mil a year!!! KENNY. I believe but your making it hard! lmao well i dont really care for bertuzzi i knew that little punk was leaving and going for the most money cause im sure he knows his back is fuked , guess i shouldnt be shocked he went back to burke but what pisses me off is he targeted 2 of our players Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,232 Report post Posted July 3, 2007 What is Kenny waiting for? A ridiculously long and overpaid deal for Hasek...who MAY have a great year like last year...but who could also blow out like he did for us before and for Ottawa? I refuse to believe that's the case. He's got to be working on something special. There's just no other explanation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vancouver Wings Fan 0 Report post Posted July 3, 2007 A gain in cap room to get who?? Please enlighten me. I realize Bertuzzi wasn't the be all end all of the team but he's probably much better than whoever is going to be forced to play from Grand Rapids. You think Daryl Bootland is going to light it up? I hope so but I woudn't count on it. I am not suggesting Bootland........but there are guys we can get or trade for. ......but at the price of a guy with the history and baggage of Bert....this is addition by subtraction..... ...people forget...the Wings have a front office and scouting staff other teams envy.....watch this extra cash bring some serious talent!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dustin35 0 Report post Posted July 3, 2007 really feels like Shanny will make his way back now. with how we need a 2nd line foward and the rangers have no cap room left with there 2 big signins. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dominator2005 558 Report post Posted July 3, 2007 LOL !!!!!!!!!!!! are you f'n kidding me ????????? LOL i just got home and saw it online , thats hilarious man , i knew that punk would leave all that talk about wanting to stay here was bs , but too top it all off the ducks go after 2 of our players ??? LMAO man i hope to god kenny goes after penner now and gives him a nice offer sheet , or goes after guerin we need some physical forwards now , and i hope when we play the duck chelios takes a nice shot on his lower back and knocks him out lmao I don't know about Guerin... he was invisible last playoff... Too bad that Holland doesn't have a balls to give Penner offer sheet!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HockeyCrazy3033 168 Report post Posted July 3, 2007 I bet Hasek doesn't sign either. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
redwingfan19 293 Report post Posted July 3, 2007 Burke has really stuck it to the Wings, Kenny should strike back with a big fat offer sheet for penner Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,232 Report post Posted July 3, 2007 No way is Shanny coming back. I'll shoot myself in the face if that happens. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HockeyCrazy3033 168 Report post Posted July 3, 2007 really feels like Shanny will make his way back now. with how we need a 2nd line foward and the rangers have no cap room left with there 2 big signins. I was thinking the same. Watch Shanny and or Kozzie make their way back here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StevieY9802 6 Report post Posted July 3, 2007 He's not worth 4mil a year when they only have 8 or so to spend. Sucks to see him go and sucks that its the Ducks. But it seems that Selanne is probably gone I would think. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Production Line 1 Report post Posted July 3, 2007 Well here's another city meaning Detroit, that will be booing Bertuzzi... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Crymson Report post Posted July 3, 2007 really feels like Shanny will make his way back now. with how we need a 2nd line foward and the rangers have no cap room left with there 2 big signins. The Rangers still have plenty of space to sign Shanahan. TSN ran an article on it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Heaton 1 Report post Posted July 3, 2007 I bet Hasek doesn't sign either. Man you really are depressed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dominator2005 558 Report post Posted July 3, 2007 really feels like Shanny will make his way back now. with how we need a 2nd line foward and the rangers have no cap room left with there 2 big signins. I don't think that he's coming back... I don't know if it's true but it seems like he and Bab's it wasn't great relationship Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
therock48880 14 Report post Posted July 3, 2007 I don't think this one needs a response, all in all. Come on, show how they -will- get beaten by Anaheim, SJ, or Calg. See last year? I don't care if San Jose played down, we're not in a bad position. We could be in a better pos. for sure. Every year the Wings have made the playoffs since 98 (with the exception of the 02 star studded team that illitch bought) they have been beaten by bigger, tougher teams. That's what I'm basing my statement on. It doesn't matter now, though. Bertuzzi for 4 million is absolutely ridiculous. I was thinking he'd get half that. Burke's an ass and always has been. I hope this comes back to burn him. He's had a vendetta against the wings since his Vancouver days and I wonder if that's not clouding his judgement a bit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HockeyCrazy3033 168 Report post Posted July 3, 2007 Man you really are depressed. Pretty much, yeah. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dominator2005 558 Report post Posted July 3, 2007 Every year the Wings have made the playoffs since 98 (with the exception of the 02 star studded team that illitch bought) they have been beaten by bigger, tougher teams. That's what I'm basing my statement on. It doesn't matter now, though. Bertuzzi for 4 million is absolutely ridiculous. I was thinking he'd get half that. Burke's an ass and always has been. I hope this comes back to burn him. He's had a vendetta against the wings since his Vancouver days and I wonder if that's not clouding his judgement a bit. Chelios will smash Bertuzzi in 1st game... Chelios is our toughest player right now!!! Pretty much, yeah. He will be back!!! Don't get depressed with that!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OsGOD 3 Report post Posted July 3, 2007 (edited) Chelios will smash Bertuzzi in 1st game... Chelios is our toughest player right now!!! nah true... We still 'ave Ozzie he can be our hardest hitter on th' ice when he plays... Ozzie did aft all put Bert on th' shelf aft bert tried t' loot 'im out! but other than Ozzie yeah, ye be right... sadly 40+ year ole chelie be our enforcer Edited July 3, 2007 by OsGOD Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Creasemonkey 30 Report post Posted July 3, 2007 I would have been pissed to see him making $4M per here, but seriously, what's with Burke picking up all our scraps? Cause I needed any more reasons to hate the fat bastard, right? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
esteef 2,679 Report post Posted July 3, 2007 I loved the acquistion of Bertuzzi, thought he was exactly the type of player that would thrive in this city and become an instant fan favorite. It never really got the chance to happen, which is unfortunate, but I don't think letting him go spells any sort of doom for next season. Will he be better throughout the season with the Ducks than he was at the end of last season with the Wings? Probably. Will the Wings go on to sign a free agent that will produce more than Bertuzzi? Probably. I'm sick of all the talk of the loss of Bertuzzi signaling the loss of our toughness. First of all, I'll take more goals over more hits any day. Secondly, however sad it might be, being tough has sort of lost its place in this new, modern-day NHL. If you look at the last few teams to win the Stanley Cup (Ducks, Hurricanes, Lightning), I see absolutely none of this "toughness" that everybody keeps talking about. If a guy like Bob Probert wanted to break into the league today, it would never happen. Guys like Darren McCarty have floundered around for the past couple of seasons, because their identities have been lost. There is no more fighting, there is no more grit, there is no more "toughness." So, say what you want about the fact that Bertuzzi was big and intimidating, but intimidation doesn't quite work anymore unless you can put pucks in the net. Sign me a free agent who can. I'm with you on Bertuzzi, but are you saying the Ducks weren't tough? They led the regular season AND the playoffs in fights. And no more fighting? The league had better fighting numbers this year than last as well: NHL Fighting Stats Granted, these numbers are "New NHL" numbers but still an increase from last year. Physical intimidation DOES work, the Wings fall victim to it in the playoffs year after year. wurd, esteef Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dominator2005 558 Report post Posted July 3, 2007 I'm with you on Bertuzzi, but are you saying the Ducks weren't tough? They led the regular season AND the playoffs in fights. And no more fighting? The league had better fighting numbers this year than last as well: NHL Fighting Stats Granted, these numbers are "New NHL" numbers but still an increase from last year as well: Physical intimidation DOES work, the Wings fall victim to it in the playoffs year after year. wurd, esteef Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
