Dominator2005 558 Report post Posted July 3, 2007 Forsberg, as long as he agrees to not get injured. C'mon man - you can do better than that... Forsberg is good for 40 games per season... but what we need is BIG forward... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest EZBAKETHAGANGSTA Report post Posted July 3, 2007 I love how every offseason people start saying how the Wings will be lucky to make the playoffs, or won't make it anywhere in the playoffs because of one certain deal... Bertuzzi was not the solution to all our problems. Get a grip people seriosuly Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Agalloch Report post Posted July 3, 2007 C'mon man - you can do better than that... Forsberg is good for 40 games per season... but what we need is BIG forward... Which is why I said he has to agree to not get injured. It was more of a joke (I do wish he'd come here, to an extent just to see him with Zetterberg), and he's not exactly tiny. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rice 42 Report post Posted July 3, 2007 He did he offered 5 years 'n 30million t' ANOTHER f-in' defenseman! thar be yer move pulled out o' his arse! You say "ANOTHER defenseman!" as if he didn't lose one who definitely needed to be replaced. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dominator2005 558 Report post Posted July 3, 2007 You say "ANOTHER defenseman!" as if he didn't lose one who definitely needed to be replaced. touché Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
puckloo39 5,686 Report post Posted July 3, 2007 I agree with the s***ty bounces and I'll add s***ty officiating. I disagree on the wearing down though. We can agree to disagree, again. lol Hey, Rock. I think it was more the fact that the Wings were a triage unit before the inglorious end. Terrible "bounces" and officicating. I don't call letting an opposing player push the goalie into the net with a puck he saved, and then calling it a goal, a "bad bouce." It's just bad hockey. The Wings were worn down and injured, the Ducks were given the upper hand at crucial points in some of the games, and the result was predictable. It still took them six games to figure out how to beat the Wings. Imagine if just a few things had been different -- Pronger never tried to kill Homer, Schneids had been healthy, Bert had been able to play up to his potential. We will not win or lose because of Bert's presence, JMO. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RainingBlood 8 Report post Posted July 3, 2007 (edited) Everyone needs to chill out, Bertuzzi was having back problems in the playoffs as well. He was very slow and Lang like especially in the Ducks series. There are still fa's out there that the Wings can sign. Hell the Redwings barely signed anyone last season but Hasek and were 2 games from the Finals. The season hasnt started yet and allready people wanna count the Redwings out. Till I see it, they are still one of the best teams in the NHL. Edited July 3, 2007 by RainingBlood Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Valas19 50 Report post Posted July 3, 2007 (edited) I wouldn't throw in the towel yet.... Yeah, certainly no time to throw in the towel just disheartening to see the Wings kinda sit back like they usually do. It's hard to argue against the results and we have certainly been spoiled by their success even though the Cups haven't been coming here for a few years now. The main issue I have is not losing Bertuzzi. It's missing out on a bunch of other guys. We've lost a full line and 1 maybe 2 defenseman. Whether they are dead weight can certainly be argued. Is anyone really gonna miss Lang and Calder? The question is who is going to fill these missing spots? I love Filpula even though I can't seem to spell his name and Hudler. Put those guys with Samuelsson and there is a potent 2nd line. The 3rd stays as is. The 4th...who we get for the 4th? Our biggest guy winds up being Samuelsson and Franzen. I guess its not as bad as it seems, it just could have been better is what is frustrating. Damn the Wings for spoiling us for all those years. Edited July 3, 2007 by Valas19 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dixie Wingslover 0 Report post Posted July 3, 2007 While I too liked the idea of Bert, he was, for the next season, a big question mark...... will he re-develop? or will he end re-injured? Or will his baggage finally catch up to him...? For somebody with his reputation, he probably could have made better choices than the Ducks.... oh well, his life, career, and checkbook. You have to fit the team as a whole, and I guess he couldn't didn't want to hack it. I like to see size wearing the wheel on the ice, but for some reason, most of the time, recently, it just doesn't work out..... Bert, Hatcher, Krupp, Big Fisch.... something always happens when we have a big guy..... most of the time, they are valued for their size, not their heart. (Fisch excepted) Point is, size seems to backfire on us.... I just gotta figure that Kenny H has some idea of who will best fill that spot...... He has put together some good squads in the past..... I'll bet that he will again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Offsides 21 Report post Posted July 3, 2007 You know...whatever. I'm just sad he's gone...not saying he's the next Steve Yzerman. I'm mad that our team looks a lot different today than it did yesterday. I liked our team last year, and it looks like there will be more changes yet...ugh. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flip-check 6 Report post Posted July 3, 2007 You know what....stop bashing Bert for his performance. He played injured the whole time. Giving him a summer to recover he could be a really, really great asset to the team. At times we caught glimpses of what he will be like... How annoying that we could have had him and now we have no one. I'm going to be so angry if Anaheim gave him a mediocre deal Jen. Kenny's a damn good GM, but god dammit. Bert's not an answer to our grit problem (per above), but he's top six player for sure. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Heaton 1 Report post Posted July 3, 2007 http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/article.jsp...702_200657_5088 Bertuzzi gets 4 million a year. 4 million. He isn't worth 4 million, not anymore and definitely not for us. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OsGOD 3 Report post Posted July 3, 2007 You say "ANOTHER defenseman!" as if he didn't lose one who definitely needed to be replaced. We 'ave ... well still yet t' be signed ... th' best goalie in th' world. We 'ave several defenseman in th' minors itchin' t' play... 'n we jus' lost 4 forwards in a matter o' nigh-on 4 hours. aye says I another Defenseman! 'n signed 'im fer 5 years! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Viperar 16 Report post Posted July 3, 2007 http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/article.jsp...702_200657_5088 Bertuzzi gets 4 million a year. 4 million. He isn't worth 4 million, not anymore and definitely not for us. def not, this makes the signing much less painful Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedWingsFanatic 4 Report post Posted July 3, 2007 I loved the acquistion of Bertuzzi, thought he was exactly the type of player that would thrive in this city and become an instant fan favorite. It never really got the chance to happen, which is unfortunate, but I don't think letting him go spells any sort of doom for next season. Will he be better throughout the season with the Ducks than he was at the end of last season with the Wings? Probably. Will the Wings go on to sign a free agent that will produce more than Bertuzzi? Probably. I'm sick of all the talk of the loss of Bertuzzi signaling the loss of our toughness. First of all, I'll take more goals over more hits any day. Secondly, however sad it might be, being tough has sort of lost its place in this new, modern-day NHL. If you look at the last few teams to win the Stanley Cup (Ducks, Hurricanes, Lightning), I see absolutely none of this "toughness" that everybody keeps talking about. If a guy like Bob Probert wanted to break into the league today, it would never happen. Guys like Darren McCarty have floundered around for the past couple of seasons, because their identities have been lost. There is no more fighting, there is no more grit, there is no more "toughness." So, say what you want about the fact that Bertuzzi was big and intimidating, but intimidation doesn't quite work anymore unless you can put pucks in the net. Sign me a free agent who can. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haroldsnepsts 4,826 Report post Posted July 3, 2007 The thing I'm disappointed we lost in the Bert deal is the potential he had. To become a power forward once again. Huge. Physical. Can score. Will fight. Everything the Wings need. The reality is there's a fair chance that's not what he'd be. And honestly, there's a part of me that's glad he's no longer a Wing because of the Moore incident. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WingNut 25 5 Report post Posted July 3, 2007 This one hurts. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NeverForgetMac25 483 Report post Posted July 3, 2007 Wow, that sucks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Offsides 21 Report post Posted July 3, 2007 At least Bert made out well for himself, but it sucks still. We couldn't have afforded him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Motown 0 Report post Posted July 3, 2007 SCREW Bertuzzi ! thats all i can say! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NeverForgetMac25 483 Report post Posted July 3, 2007 .......although it could turn out to be very smart if Bert never returns to form. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haroldsnepsts 4,826 Report post Posted July 3, 2007 http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/article.jsp...702_200657_5088 Bertuzzi gets 4 million a year. 4 million. He isn't worth 4 million, not anymore and definitely not for us. Holy crap. There's no way NIedermayer can come back now. Elbows=6.75 mill Haircut=6.25 mill (if he doesn't retire) Stay Puft Marshmallow Man=6 mill Schneider=5.5 and now Bert at 4 mill? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
johnnyoski 0 Report post Posted July 3, 2007 http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/article.jsp...702_200657_5088 Bertuzzi gets 4 million a year. 4 million. He isn't worth 4 million, not anymore and definitely not for us. That's insane. Can anyone here honestly say they would sign him for that much?? I'd be pissed if we gave him $4 mil/season. <flashbacks of Uwe Krupp> Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Agalloch Report post Posted July 3, 2007 There you have it. Four million a year. Now everyone, please calm down, because he's only worth half that (if that). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flip-check 6 Report post Posted July 3, 2007 http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/article.jsp...702_200657_5088 I guess it's not as bad a loss then. He might have signed to a $3mill deal with us though--I want details on the talks breakdown. And he wouldn't have been as physical or fought as much HS, even if he makes a comeback this year... still a disappointment though, harold. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
