Sgt. Angry 23 Report post Posted June 3, 2008 [/b] That gust of wind that just blew over your head. Well, nevermind. Yeah, we're all baggin on Franzen b/c of his s***tiness through the first 3 rounds. Get a clue. He f***ed up a relatively easy play that would've had us all celebrating another Cup. There is no hockey to be played if Franzen clears that puck. Series ends if Franzen clears that puck. We'll move on and so will Mule. But people can certainly criticize that play considering how important it was. As I've said many times, I am inclined to be just as lenient with these guys screw-ups as most of our bosses would be with our screw-ups - NOT VERY!! And most of us only get paid peanuts. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
10 Minute Misconduct 104 Report post Posted June 3, 2008 Franzen screwed up? Oh, OK. Well, let's deduct this goal from the thirteen he has scored in these playoffs. Now he is merely tied for the playoff lead in goals. By the same logic, I guess Kronwall now has -1 goals. He sure does suck. Your an idiot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hockeysattva 8 Report post Posted June 3, 2008 This is the kind of post and thread that makes me post at the Pens site now. You are lame as are those who agree with you. The Wings deserve better than you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rick zombo 3,739 Report post Posted June 3, 2008 Blame Zetterberg for not getting the puck deep enough to get a line change. But of course no one will do that. And I love Hank as much as the next person. Blame Hank Blame Hudler Blame Osgood Blame the team. Correct? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Detroit # 1 Fan 2,204 Report post Posted June 3, 2008 Where's NN too? He was right last year about the clear versus Anaheim, and was the only one to blame him instead of Lilja. This situation is alot the same, expect Hudler and Franzen. He screwed up big time, now next game he'll do fine. For those who are saying "oh dont get mad at him, he has 13 goals!zz1!". Wayne Gretkzy made alot of mistakes in his career too, doesnt mean he wasnt a great player. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Crymson Report post Posted June 3, 2008 Your an idiot. The irony of your statement---given its spelling---is nearly overwhelming. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
10 Minute Misconduct 104 Report post Posted June 3, 2008 The irony of your statement---given its spelling---is nearly overwhelming. oh look at me------im a smart guy----hehehe Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Must Kill 0 Report post Posted June 3, 2008 then again if it wasnt for mule whos to say we even be in the finals. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GoalieManPat 1,007 Report post Posted June 3, 2008 you're stupid... if you wanna go be a cheerleader, go to sleep. We like to be fans and to be critical. I know Franzen knows what he did, and isn't happy about it, he will get it right next time. He has rocked in the playoffs and made a mistake. We, the fans, don't like mistakes because we cheer for our team and want our team to win. It's part of being a fan. Be a cheerleader somewhere else. Right. The issue with that is lack of logical thinking when being critical. Its always one player that loses it for Detroit on one play. Thats the standard Detroit fan reasoning. We must find our scapegoat because god forbid it cant be the team. If you read my post youll see that I was being more critical of the team than yourself. Your being critical of one negative play. I was being critical of many poor plays that all helped Pittsburgh win. *Note*"if you wanna go be a cheerleader, go to sleep." and then you followed it up with "We, the fans, don't like mistakes because we cheer for our team and want our team to win." So I guess your a cheerleader to. Rock on. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OsGOD 3 Report post Posted June 3, 2008 The dude just missed almost an entire series due to "head" issues... Silly people expecting him to come back and be 100%... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PaVel DaTsYuK fan13 0 Report post Posted June 3, 2008 I really hate to say it but I agree, Franzen is just trying to be so damn fancy since he got back. It seems like leading the playoffs in goals got into his head a little bit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
C-Dub 0 Report post Posted June 3, 2008 you're stupid... if you wanna go be a cheerleader, go to sleep. We like to be fans and to be critical. [...] It's part of being a fan. Be a cheerleader somewhere else. I would call you a whiner and a fair weather fan at best. This is some of the biggest BS I have ever read on this board. Some fan you are dude. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VM1138 1,921 Report post Posted June 3, 2008 Kind of confused. Franzen has been a beast since he got back. It's funny how fast fans can turn on you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
C-Dub 0 Report post Posted June 3, 2008 Kind of confused. Franzen has been a beast since he got back. It's funny how fast "fans" can turn on you. Fixed... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wingman 0 Report post Posted June 3, 2008 (edited) Sometimes I get tired of these "X happened before the goal, therefore X caused the goal"-arguments. Oh, along with "whenever the opponents score, it's per definition someone of our players fault". Edited June 3, 2008 by Wingman Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blaayze 25 Report post Posted June 3, 2008 Ok. In my opinion, this particular misshap It wasn't Franzens fault. Sure, Z could have got it deep, but when he has 2 guys on him with no space and no time, he aint going to do @#$% all with the puck. As well, Franzen had a guy on him screwing with this stick, sure he could have done something, but the fact that he didn't doesnt piss me off. What did piss me off is that Raffs shy'd away from the puck when 2 guys were coming down on him. With a lead and 30 seconds to go, its called taking the hit for the team. You can see it, its in plain sight. If raff shovels it down the boards, I guarantee that the pens dont score because it would have been easier for mule to get to the puck and the cup is ours. I hate watching defense shy away from the puck just because he doesn't want to get hit. Unacceptable. But anyways, we had more then a few chances to put this game to rest and came up short. So you can't blame one particular play. Thought the wings still had their puck dominance during this game. Full faith that we win in 6. Go Wings! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Real1 2 Report post Posted June 3, 2008 Like I said in the GDT, Danny O'Halloran screwed us over againg last night. He gave Pavel a tripping penalty when Stall just lost an edge. They don't get that PP, and they don't score. I reall hope that we don't get Dan in Pittsburg.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cirov19 1 Report post Posted June 3, 2008 (edited) s*** like this happens, and that's what makes hockey a sport. It is clear that we are the best team in the league, but if we never made mistakes we would never lose. Now as great as it would be to have 3 Stanley Cups in the next three years, where is the fun in knowing there is no possibility your team loses. Mistakes make games. The score would've been 58 - 34 had it not been for the mistake of shooting directly at MAF or shooting weakly. Now suck it up and come again for game 6, when we will hoist the Cup. On that note, I would like to blame Franzen for the game 5 loss. As much as I know there were other things that happened in the game that could've changed the outcome I still have to think that this was the moment where the outcome DID change. Edited June 3, 2008 by cirov19 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SouthernWingsFan 854 Report post Posted June 3, 2008 Like I said in the GDT, Danny O'Halloran screwed us over againg last night. He gave Pavel a tripping penalty when Stall just lost an edge. They don't get that PP, and they don't score. I reall hope that we don't get Dan in Pittsburg.... Referees also gave the Wings a PP to start the game, and they had one in double overtime. Bad calls work both ways for both teams. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest mindfly Report post Posted June 3, 2008 (edited) Why the hell can't franzén stand in front of the net dipin in pucks, thats what he does best... he was way OFF in game5 Edited June 3, 2008 by mindfly Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WunderfulWorldOFOzzie 0 Report post Posted June 3, 2008 <_< I must say the result of last nights game wasnt quite what i wanted . And i will be the first to say it does seem really easy to sit and arm chair coach a team of this calibre, like so many have up to this point...That being that i sure as hell cant ....But i must say God damn .... There is a few things that the blame could be placed on i for one am noticing the in ability of not passing the puck in key one timer situations ...There were several times in the third period where we could have been up a goal or two if there were a few passes thrown around. Next there cant be anything wrong with re inserting Chelios back there where he belongs ..Is he ready ...whats the word ...Did anyone else seem to notice that we played almost nervous as we did when we played ottawa during the REGULAR season the game we should have won. At that note, there were many things that went on called and of course things that were let go how about when someone slashed zetters stick and broke it , slashing penalty .....nope The lack lustre so called goalie interference penalties ....pffffft ....But that being said with the experience people and knowledge that our guys have Maltby , draper , etc i must say we can control what happens...Im sure now we wil have that chip in the shoulder now going into this game 6 ...But this seems just like the year we went down 2 games to nothing and dug ourselves out ...We can do it again As a team not as individuals ...That being said enough with its ozzies fault ...He can only be as good as the guys in front of him ...Up till last night he was looking pretty darn good... And still remains too , i think though that there needs to be a change in Defense with chelios back in for his ability to clear the garbage from out in front of the net to prevent the after the whistle shenigans and much needed shot blocks ... In closing i am A proud Candian Detroit Red Wings Fan ...Those who are going to jump off the wagon because of someones screw up so be it ...But come on folks we can still do this ... Just In my opinion remember... LETs GO WINGS :clap: WunderfulWorldOFOzzie Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
truebladearmy 33 Report post Posted June 3, 2008 Thanks for not clearing the puck once again. In game 5 against Anaheim last year you couldnt do it, last game against Pitt u couldnt and got bailed out, and tonight u couldnt and screwed us. Well done. You're an idiot. I am ashamed to be a fan of the same team as you. By "Screwed us" are you implying that you work for the Redwings organization? Since when did mistakes in hockey warrant an entire thread of bitching? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest GordieSid&Ted Report post Posted June 3, 2008 Franzen screwed up? Oh, OK. Well, let's deduct this goal from the thirteen he has scored in these playoffs. Now he is merely tied for the playoff lead in goals. By the same logic, I guess Kronwall now has -1 goals. He sure does suck. Crymson, you are embarrassing yourself now. I get the point some are making that you can find a gazillion things during a game that contributed to a win or loss. I get that. Unfortunately, its pretty hard to miss how critical a play that was. He f***ed up. I'm not calling for his head. I don't think he sucks. I just think he f***ed up. IMO, it was Bucker-esque. It was that big a deal...to me. I didn't ask anybody to agree with me and I'm not claiming that Franzen sucks or anything. Just pointing out that at a most crucial time, with only half a minute to go before hoisting the Cup, Franzen made one of the worst clearing attempts in Finals history to my knowledge. That puck didn't even have a prayer. It's like he banked it directly off the wall the way it came right back out to the center of the ice. It is what it is, just an atrocious play. No amount of goals scored before this game changes that play. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
10 Minute Misconduct 104 Report post Posted June 3, 2008 I'd love to give Franzen the benefit of the doubt about Hossa getting a stick on him, but when it just happened in game 4 before that, then i really can't. I love Franzen and all, and people saying dumb s*** because i made this thread are ridiculous. He didn't get the puck out, and it cost us the game. If this was a regular season game who the f*** cares, but incase anybody missed it, it was for the Stanley Cup. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RockyMountainWingGal 108 Report post Posted June 3, 2008 We could find a reason to blame almost anyone on the team - how about someone hit the EN once in awhile? Anyhow, I will agree it was a botched clearing attempt - maybe Babs will think about it and not put Franzen out there for the 6-5s etc... Looking forward - Go Wings in 6! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
