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JUST TO KNOCK IT INTO PEOPLE'S HEADS:

MORE MONEY IN THE FIRST TWO YEARS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH CAP SPACE.

MORE MONEY IN THE FIRST TWO YEARS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH CAP SPACE.

MORE MONEY IN THE FIRST TWO YEARS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH CAP SPACE.

MORE MONEY IN THE FIRST TWO YEARS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH CAP SPACE.

MORE MONEY IN THE FIRST TWO YEARS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH CAP SPACE.

MORE MONEY IN THE FIRST TWO YEARS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH CAP SPACE.

MORE MONEY IN THE FIRST TWO YEARS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH CAP SPACE.

MORE MONEY IN THE FIRST TWO YEARS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH CAP SPACE.

The cap hit is the same in all years, regardless of what the 'wage' is for that season. Front-loading a contract does not mean you take a bigger cap hit earlier.

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You realize that's about exactly what our own top five makes, right? And more when Z gets his raise.

And for the most part they're worthy - perhaps slightly inflated, but not by much really. To me, Kuba is the only real wackiness there.

And you do realize they have no D, the difference between the Top 5 Tampa contracts and the top 5 Detroit contracts is that in those contract Detroit has 2 legit # 1 defenseman, and when Z gets signed they will have 2 legit # 1 scorers/centers/forwards as well.

It is not that the money is astronomical and putting them in the pinch, as I said in another thread you have to sign Vinny, like Z, what ever he asks for you have to give, however they have a lot of money tied up in offense and offense only.

Sure they have Dan Boyle, but he is overpaid. He is at best a #3 on the Wings, and if we take away all world Nick Lidstrom (because no one in the league would be a #1 over him) he is still a 3, I would rather have Kronwall than Boyle, but that is my opinion, others may have him as higher than Kronwall, but he is not a legit #1.

Still have to sign Prospal, correct I may have missed the signing?

EDIT:

BTW isn't this how Tampa went from Cup winner to cellar dwellar, horrible contracts?

Edited by Opie

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Brutal deal. 7 years? wow

4.4 million for guy who did not even score 30 goals. And he was playing with Malkin/Crosby.

Seriously... Malone played with these two almost exclusively. Do you think that might have something to do with his numbers?

You often have to overpay for a free agent, but this one could be very painful for them down the road.

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QF Absolute T!

As great as Kenny is at getting guys to take a paycut to be with the Wings' winning franchise, this is just getting scary.

Frankly, I wish Holland wouldn't stall when re-signing players. He always waits until after someone overpays and sets the tone, and then we suffer as a result.

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Frankly, I wish Holland wouldn't stall when re-signing players. He always waits until after someone overpays and sets the tone, and then we suffer as a result.

Care to explain the suffer comment?

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Frankly, I wish Holland wouldn't stall when re-signing players. He always waits until after someone overpays and sets the tone, and then we suffer as a result.

I can't think of a single instance of that.

Holland was plenty proactive in signing Cleary and Kronwall. And Datsyuk's deal is looking now like an absolute bargain.

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I can't think of a single instance of that.

Holland was plenty proactive in signing Cleary and Kronwall. And Datsyuk's deal is looking now like an absolute bargain.

He also quickly locked up Samuelsson when he emerged as a regular in the lineup.

And Zetterberg's 4 year, 10.4 million dollar contract signed during his emergence(IMO) as one of the 10 best players in the league might be the greatest deal ever negotiated. I hope Zeta fired his agent.

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Frankly, I wish Holland wouldn't stall when re-signing players. He always waits until after someone overpays and sets the tone, and then we suffer as a result.

Franzen will be an UFA next summer. Kenny cannot re-sign him yet.

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Frankly, I wish Holland wouldn't stall when re-signing players. He always waits until after someone overpays and sets the tone, and then we suffer as a result.

Yeah, we get absolutely killed in the playoffs.... no, wait...

Anyway, Malone's signing won't hurt anyone----he's so overpaid that other teams will laugh at anyone asking for comparable deals. I imagine agents realize this.

Edited by Crymson

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Actually Franzen will be a UFA next summer.

I don't know exactly what that means in terms of being able to negotiate an extension though.

Kenny can start putting numbers on paper tomorrow for Franzen and Zetterberg. I'd guess Zetterberg gets signed before training camp and Franzen later in the year.

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