Holland on Yzerman

[Wings_Fan_In_Exile 3]

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Paul broke this Holland quote out, “He’s probably getting to the point where he’s just about ready to run his own team.” If you didn’t click, you might have missed the next line from Tick Tock regarding Steve Yzerman.

“He wanted to come in, spend some time and see how we do it.”

Oh, it’s always been kind of a tummyache we didn’t want to talk about. I mean, how long could this situation last? Holland as GM, Yzerman as “alternate governor.”

I’m a Stevie Y guy just like you. But if given the choice between he and Holland? Holland stays. Has to. We can’t afford to lose Bowman and Tick Tock in a short period of time. I know. Jim Nill’s a genius, but...Holland’s still the man.

I prefer not to think about Stevie involved in any other organization. Ever. But I do have to agree.

*edit* the second group of quotes is Kuklas talking, not Holland.

Edited August 21, 2008 by Wings_Fan_In_Exile

[LeftWinger 5,153]

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I prefer not to think about Stevie involved in any other organization. Ever. But I do have to agree.

*edit* the second group of quotes is Kuklas talking, not Holland.

...can anyone say Ottawa Senators? One more year like last and Bryan Murray will be OUT!

[russianswede919293 95]

I just cannot see Yzerman in any role on any other team. I think that he will sit tight and wait for JImmy Devellano to retire, then Holland gets promoted and Stevie is GM...

[Heaton 1]

I just cannot see Yzerman in any role on any other team. I think that he will sit tight and wait for JImmy Devellano to retire, then Holland gets promoted and Stevie is GM...

Promoted over Nill? It would make more sense for Jimmy D to take over Bowman's old role as consultant, Holland get promoted, Nill take over as GM and Yzerman into Nill's role.

[19Hockeytown5 0]

I would be sick to my stomach seeing Yzerman on another team. I think they will find a way to make it work out. We keep Holland and Yzerman.

[akustyk 84]

Stevie Y in Ottawa makes sense. he'd get to work on his home soil.

and the team badly needs breath of success. they had all the tools

to win big prize but failed over and over again...

[TheGreatOne 0]

You know what our problem is ?!

We have alot of great people around us!in the red wings organization

..

I dont have a date and i dont know when.. but Steave Y will be our GM one day and he is not going somewhere else! never ever ever !!!

[b.shanafan14 733]

Does Stevie deserve his own GM spot? Like no other. Is he capable at this point? From all accounts, yes. How would I feel to see Steve Yzerman do anything with any organization besides the Red Wings and Team Canada? I believe I would honestly first start to cry, then hurl.

Love the idea of everyone eventually bumping position up, but that's still unrealistic.

[LIDDYGIBBY5 1]

Does Stevie deserve his own GM spot? Like no other. Is he capable at this point? From all accounts, yes. How would I feel to see Steve Yzerman do anything with any organization besides the Red Wings and Team Canada? I believe I would honestly first start to cry, then hurl.

Love the idea of everyone eventually bumping position up, but that's still unrealistic.

It would be the second hockey related cry in my life. The only time so far was when Vladdy walked in for the raising of Stevie's number. I can't see Stevie walking away to get the job he wants. He could have walked away plenty of times for various reasons when he was a player and he didn't. You don't just change the cloth that you are cut from. I believe that he is committed to this franchise no matter what.

Edited August 21, 2008 by LIDDYGIBBY5

[Jedi 1,865]

Honestly, I don't think the Wings would want to put Stevie in the GM spot. (Hear me out before throwing your rotten fruits & vegetables).

If Stevie gets promoted to GM or Assistant GM, it puts a whole load of responsibility on his shoulders. The kind of responsibility that calls for accountability as well. So if Stevie takes the helm, and the Wings tank, it puts them in an awkward position. Do they keep Stevie because of his history, and continue to tank, or do they potentially fire the (arguably) most popular player to ever don the Red & White?

I think they would give him all the blessing in the world to try his hand at a GM spot somewhere else. But I doubt they would want to put him in a job with the Wings that could (potentially) lead to them asking him to step down.

That said, I agree that Stevie would make a FANTASTIC GM, and I doubt that a team lead by him would tank.

[LIDDYGIBBY5 1]

Honestly, I don't think the Wings would want to put Stevie in the GM spot. (Hear me out before throwing your rotten fruits & vegetables).

If Stevie gets promoted to GM or Assistant GM, it puts a whole load of responsibility on his shoulders. The kind of responsibility that calls for accountability as well. So if Stevie takes the helm, and the Wings tank, it puts them in an awkward position. Do they keep Stevie because of his history, and continue to tank, or do they potentially fire the (arguably) most popular player to ever don the Red & White?

I think they would give him all the blessing in the world to try his hand at a GM spot somewhere else. But I doubt they would want to put him in a job with the Wings that could (potentially) lead to them asking him to step down.

That said, I agree that Stevie would make a FANTASTIC GM, and I doubt that a team lead by him would tank.

I couldn't agree more. Like Vinny Chase told E on Entourage. " I can fire my manager, I can't fire my friend"

(Or something like that, I'm not so weird that I memorize all the quotes from that show)

[Doggy 130]

You memorize quotes from E?

[GMRwings1983 8,804]

Yzerman for mayor of Detroit.

He'd be a great replacement for what's his face.

[LeftWinger 5,153]

Yzerman for mayor of Detroit.

He'd be a great replacement for what's his ASSface.

Fixed It For Ya!

...I think he'd take a job in Toronto first, stop, oh wait, no, that organization is more corrupt than City Council, so yeah, let's start the campaign!

Edited August 22, 2008 by LeftWinger

[omnipotent_hudler 0]

THN had an article almost a year ago detailing how much talent was in this front office and how the NHL should break it up to spread the talent around the league

with Bowman leaving, and now this, it doesn't look like that will be necessary

it will be a PR disaster to have Yzerman leave

[toby91_ca 620]

Yzerman already eluded to the fact that he may end up somewhere else awhile ago. He wants to progress and there are no job openings in Detroit.

Wouldn't be surprised to see him end up in Ottawa at all. It is his hometown and all.

[Guest Shoreline]

Yep, I don't think he'd stay here, not without an upset of canning Holland or someone else, which I just don't see happening.

I'd certainly have no hard feelings over it either. He's certainly demonstrated his team and fan loyalty. He's doing business work now, not on-ice work, and so now he must be a businessman. For that, I can understand.

Edited August 22, 2008 by Shoreline

[SouthernWingsFan 854]

Yep, I don't think he'd stay here, not without an upset of canning Holland or someone else, which I just don't see happening.

I'd certainly have no hard feelings over it either. He's certainly demonstrated his team and fan loyalty. He's doing business work now, not on-ice work, and so now he must be a businessman. For that, I can understand.

QFT.

And as die-hard fans of a sports team we often fail to realize that either on the playing surface as an athlete or in the front office, this is a job/career to these people. Sometimes that means pursuing other opportunities elsewhere in a different city to better yourself personally/professionally/financially, just like you might have to do with any other job or profession. It can't always be all about the Red Wings 24-7-365 no matter how much we want it to be sometimes.

If Yzerman wants to be a GM soon and it requires him going to a different city or sports franchise to do so, so be it. It would be what he wants to do. And that would not make him a traitor to the Red Wings franchise whatsoever, not even close.

[Barrie 900]

THN had an article almost a year ago detailing how much talent was in this front office and how the NHL should break it up to spread the talent around the league

:violin:

[Barrie 900]

Honestly, I don't think the Wings would want to put Stevie in the GM spot. (Hear me out before throwing your rotten fruits & vegetables).

If Stevie gets promoted to GM or Assistant GM, it puts a whole load of responsibility on his shoulders. The kind of responsibility that calls for accountability as well. So if Stevie takes the helm, and the Wings tank, it puts them in an awkward position. Do they keep Stevie because of his history, and continue to tank, or do they potentially fire the (arguably) most popular player to ever don the Red & White?

I think they would give him all the blessing in the world to try his hand at a GM spot somewhere else. But I doubt they would want to put him in a job with the Wings that could (potentially) lead to them asking him to step down.

I agree. It's similar to the Tigers hiring Allan Trammell as their manager in 2003. When it happened I thought, "Why would they do that? Allan is just going to get fired in a few seasons." Sure enough after 2005, Tram was out the door.

If Stevie took a job with another team, I would hate to see him go, but would wish him all the best and have no hard feelings. Similar to my feelings towards Bowman going to Chicago.

It would be interesting to see if Stevie would ever go to another team. He doesn't seem like the guy that would want to uproot his family.

[Stu in Israel 0]

Yzerman already alluded to the fact that he may end up somewhere else awhile ago. He wants to progress and there are no job openings in Detroit.

Wouldn't be surprised to see him end up in Ottawa at all. It is his hometown and all.

Two diferent words, two different meanings.

[weGotTheCup89 41]

If he does leave us someday, I hope it ends up similar to the Babcock situation where Holland allegedly told him "You will coach here but get some experience elsewhere first."

[WingNut 25 5]

No chance Yzerman leaves the organization.

[KrazyGangsta 79]

I'd rather keep holland for now as GM then having Yzerman no offense, who knows maybe yzerman doesn't have the skills as holland as to bring in good FA as cheap like he did with hossa and stuart ... I would love to see him go gm somewhere for a couple of years just to see how good he does and when holland retires we hire him of course if he has done good

[SouthernWingsFan 854]

No chance Yzerman leaves the organization.

How so?