rwfan007 18 Report post Posted September 19, 2009 where did it all go? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HOCKEY MATTERS 167 Report post Posted September 20, 2009 They need an enforcer.....more grit.....what is Bert's batting average? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HOCKEY MATTERS 167 Report post Posted September 24, 2009 Things seem to be clicking again. High scoring win against the Indians. Hopefully a sweep, then bring on the W-Sox!! GO TIGERS! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rwfan007 18 Report post Posted September 24, 2009 magic number is down to 9. We can gain a half game on the twins today, because when they don't play, they don't win. thats about the only way we can seem to make up any ground with them these days. we HAVE to take advantage of this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
timothy1997 0 Report post Posted September 24, 2009 magic number is down to 9. We can gain a half game on the twins today, because when they don't play, they don't win. thats about the only way we can seem to make up any ground with them these days. we HAVE to take advantage of this. Plus we throw JV out their tonight for us. Verlander is our ace and needs to show it tonight. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
betterREDthandead 58 Report post Posted September 25, 2009 Big win tonight....not only for the division chase obviously but also clinched a winning record for the year. We'd better kill the Twinkies in the series after next because they have six games against the Royals coming up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rwfan007 18 Report post Posted September 25, 2009 royals are on a tear right now, so it could be a good thing that the twins play them. that being said, as long as we take care of our games, the division will be ours. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
timothy1997 0 Report post Posted September 25, 2009 I am more worried about playing 6 games against the White Sox. I don't think Chicago will roll over like Cleveland just did. I except a tough home and home. Hopefully we can wrap up the divison before the final 3 games against Chicago. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rwfan007 18 Report post Posted September 27, 2009 Damn Twins... will they ever lose? Anyways, a good comeback by the good guys cuts the magic number down to 7. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rwfan007 18 Report post Posted September 27, 2009 Jackson vs Rookie Call-up + Greinke vs the Twins SHOULD = a 2 game reduction to that 7 game magic number. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GoWings1905 2,694 Report post Posted September 28, 2009 162 games and it all comes down to the last week. These are the four biggest regular season games the Tigers have played in my life. Three to win the division and play some October baseball. If nothing else, the Tigers HAVE to at least split the series with the Twins. The Twins are on fire lately, but hopefully the Tigers continue to play well at home as they have all season. Comerica is going to be nuts for this series. Let's Go Tigers! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
betterREDthandead 58 Report post Posted September 28, 2009 I would be happy with a split. That would drop the magic number to two with three games to go. And the Twinkies get one more dose of Zack Grienke, plus we're throwing Verlander at them tomorrow. This is the most meaningful series left this season anywhere in either league. I CAN'T WAIT!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crabcakes'n'redwings 4 Report post Posted September 28, 2009 Anyone know of any streams for tonight? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eva unit zero 271 Report post Posted September 28, 2009 Well, seven games left for each team. Four are head-to-head. Assuming Minnesota wins all games on their schedule that the Tigers don't win: If the Tigers only take one against Minnesota, they need to sweep Chicago to guarantee at least a tie for the division at 87-75 (Minnesota winning 3 of 4 and sweeping the Royals) Tigers splitting with the Twins would require one win against Chicago to ensure a tie and two to clinch. Tigers winning three against the Twins clinches. If the Tigers win nothing against the Twins, then Detroit would be down two games with three to go. Not a pretty position. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GoWings1905 2,694 Report post Posted September 29, 2009 Man, talk about an excitement killer. Day/night doubleheader tomorrow. Honestly with Bonine and Robertson going on Wednesday and Thursday, I would feel so much better with two wins instead of a split. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheDetroitRedWings 286 Report post Posted September 29, 2009 (edited) What a joke that first game of the doubleheader was. Basically just handed the Twins a free victory with Lyon throwing 2 wild pitches BACK TO BACK in the 10th inning, which put Span on 3rd with NO OUTS. Not to mention our non existent bats against some no namer from the Twins. Tigers f*cking suck. They don't deserve to win the central with play like that. And even if by some miracle we do win the central, we're getting our asses swept by the Yankees in the first round. They say pitching is everything in baseball... But when you have a squad full of players that can't hit the f*cking baseball, what good is pitching? We had a 7 1/2 game lead less than 2 weeks ago. F*ck the Tigers. Edited September 29, 2009 by TheDetroitRedWings Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
betterREDthandead 58 Report post Posted September 30, 2009 What a joke that first game of the doubleheader was. Basically just handed the Twins a free victory with Lyon throwing 2 wild pitches BACK TO BACK in the 10th inning, which put Span on 3rd with NO OUTS. Not to mention our non existent bats against some no namer from the Twins. Tigers f*cking suck. They don't deserve to win the central with play like that. And even if by some miracle we do win the central, we're getting our asses swept by the Yankees in the first round. They say pitching is everything in baseball... But when you have a squad full of players that can't hit the f*cking baseball, what good is pitching? We had a 7 1/2 game lead less than 2 weeks ago. F*ck the Tigers. Go be a Red Sox fan. Actually, while you're at it, go be a Blackhawks fan too. I don't want you rooting for my teams. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rwfan007 18 Report post Posted September 30, 2009 This is what baseball in September is supposed to be... clawing tooth and nail against the 2nd place team for the division. The Yankees will have a good 3 weeks to get into a lull having wrapped up the division, and the Tigers have been in playoff mode for the last 3 weeks of the season. HUGE win today btw, magic number is down to 4. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheDetroitRedWings 286 Report post Posted September 30, 2009 Go be a Red Sox fan. Actually, while you're at it, go be a Blackhawks fan too. I don't want you rooting for my teams. It's called reality. Welcome to it. We were LUCKY to beat them in the second game tonight. And that was with Verlander on the mound. Sorry but if you think anything I said was inaccurate...well, again, welcome to reality. I stand behind every word I said. Oh yeah and I've been a life long Tigers fan. And I will continue to be. I'm just not a homer like you. Cause if you actually think this team will do anything if we do make it, well, then you're clearly a homer. Have fun with that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheDetroitRedWings 286 Report post Posted September 30, 2009 (edited) The race for the central is bacially irrelevant because the Yankees, Angels and Red Sox are much better overall teams than the Tigers and Twins. They have better hitters, a better bullpen and just as good if not better starting pitching. It's called logic. Tigers or Twins would need a miracle to make a splash against these teams. Edited September 30, 2009 by TheDetroitRedWings Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Echolalia 2,961 Report post Posted September 30, 2009 The race for the central is bacially irrelevant because the Yankees, Angels and Red Sox are much better overall teams than the Tigers and Twins. They have better hitters, a better bullpen and just as good if not better starting pitching. It's called logic. Tigers or Twins would need a miracle to make a splash against these teams. Kind of like how the Ducks earlier this decade needed a miracle to get to the Finals. Or the Oilers a couple years later. Or the Tigers from a couple years back for that matter. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rwfan007 18 Report post Posted September 30, 2009 Tigers werent supposed to make the playoffs in '06... but they did. They faced the Big Bad Yankees in their first playoff series in 19 years with A-Rod and Jeter and Posada and Rivera and did not have a shot to compete with them... but they did. There is a reason why they actually play the games on the field and not on paper. What the hell fun is it if you don't even give them a chance if they beat every team in the division and are one of the 4 of 15 teams to make it to the playoffs? If you aren't tickled pink at the chance to see the tigers clinch a division title and make another shot at a championship, go watch ******* tennis, at least they make you shut up while you watch them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheDetroitRedWings 286 Report post Posted September 30, 2009 Kind of like how the Ducks earlier this decade needed a miracle to get to the Finals. Or the Oilers a couple years later. Or the Tigers from a couple years back for that matter. Ok I'll admit, in hockey there are usually a few cinderella stories. Funny though that both of those NHL teams you mentioned still couldn't actually win it all. But MLB rarely works like that. It's hard enough in baseball to even make the playoffs (only 4 teams from each league). So if you're good enough to make the post season in baseball then you've either won your division, or you've won the wildcard spot. That means its extremely rare for a cinderella story in baseball. And when there is, they don't go on to win any title. But this is one of those rare years that features the horrid central division. Tigers/Twins will definitely be major underdogs in the first round. Twins JUST went over the .500 mark a few days ago. And the Tigers about to lose their lead to that very team. All other playoff bound AL teams aren't just a little better than us. They are a lot better. And as for the '06 Tigers comparison, we were much better in all areas that year. And most importantly, we had consistent and timely hitting. Also the lowest ERA in the AL didn't hurt much either. We are definitely not as good as we were that year. And that team couldn't even win it all. If we make the playoffs I will be very surprised. If we make it out of the first round I'll be floored. Our bullpen is mediocre at best, and our bats are a joke (except for Cabrera). We're just lucky to have been in the worst division in baseball (which just a few years ago used to be one of the best). Otherwise we wouldn't have a prayer for a playoff birth. Although I still don't think we have a prayer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rwfan007 18 Report post Posted September 30, 2009 (edited) I would take JV, Jackson, Porcello over Bondo, Rogers, and the '06 verson of JV any day of the week for a top 3 in pitching. Granderson has 30 HRs, Inge has 27 HRs, Cabby has 30+ homers and 100+ RBIs. Polanco is better offensively this season, Raburn is better than Infante in the Utility position, Santiago is better than he was in '06, Granderson has the pop this season, Laird is a very capable replacement for pudge, Guillen is just getting healthy, Maggs is hitting the cover off the ball lately, Everett is better defensively at SS than Guillen, Cabby is night and day better than Shelton/Casey/Young/Stairs at 1B, our top 5 in the pen have a 3.88 ERA which is just .6 higher than '06 when we had a 3.28. We had bad luck this year with our 3 and 4 starters with injuries, but our top 3 rival that of '06 as well. As of right now we have 20 fewer errors than in '06. I think this team is markedly better defensively than in '06, comparable in SP and BP, and slightly inferior offensively, but that is because we switched Guillen for Everett (offense for defense) Pudge for Laird (offense for defense), and Magglio is having an off season (but is picking it up lately) and gained in offense with Cabby for Shelton/Casey/Young/Stairs (wash defense for superior offense). Clete and Raburn are comparable to Monroe in the OF, Santiago is superior in offense and defense to Infante, Avila is superior to Wilson at C. Basically, it has taken a while for the tigers to find out what they have this season. The back end of the rotation is still in the air, but the top three are step for step with any in baseball. We are vastly superior defensively than in '06, bullpen is comparable to '06 with some very young arms (Perry and Ni) proving very valuable to our pen. Rodney is just as heart-attack inducing as Jones was, but has only blown 1 save all year, our bench utility players are superior to '06. I would say that these teams ('09 and '06) are pretty equal in talent, and without the injuries to washburn and galarraga, the starting pitching would have picked up a few more wins this season. What counts is that we currently are sitting at the top of an MLB division going into October, and for that, we have a shot to win a championship. Edited September 30, 2009 by rwfan007 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
timothy1997 0 Report post Posted September 30, 2009 Tigers have a better record this year then the 2006 world series champion St. Louis Cardinals. Record means nothing come playoff time. 2006 also had the tigers make their miracle run. 2007 had the rockies play in "playoff mode" the whole last month and carried it over to the playoffs and made it to the world series. Bottom line, its been done before and nothing says these Tigers can't make a run in the playoffs. First we gotta get to the playoffs first. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
