Shaman 713 Report post Posted February 22, 2009 Agreed also should send down Zetterberg with him. and we are sending you the St Louis to be a blues fan to refocus Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carman 387 Report post Posted February 22, 2009 and we are sending you the St Louis to be a blues fan to refocus Ouch. Just ouch. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
titanium2 867 Report post Posted February 22, 2009 http://blog.mlive.com/snapshots/2009/02/ho...to_grand_r.html Howard's headed back to Grand Rapids "Fox Sports Detroit's Ken Daniels and Mickey Redmond report that Jimmy Howard will return to the Grand Rapids Griffins in time for their Sunday afternoon tilt against San Antonio after giving up four goals on 28 shots in the Red Wings' 5-2 loss to Minnesota." Also http://www.mlive.com/redwings/index.ssf/20...y_sputters.html "The Red Wings must decide after the season whether Howard is part of their future. If he's not, they could attempt to re-sign Ty Conklin or pursue another free-agent goalie because Howard can't be sent down to the minors next season without going through waivers." Think they might make a trade for a draft pick? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike 0 Report post Posted February 22, 2009 (edited) http://blog.mlive.com/snapshots/2009/02/ho...to_grand_r.html Howard's headed back to Grand Rapids "Fox Sports Detroit's Ken Daniels and Mickey Redmond report that Jimmy Howard will return to the Grand Rapids Griffins in time for their Sunday afternoon tilt against San Antonio after giving up four goals on 28 shots in the Red Wings' 5-2 loss to Minnesota." Also http://www.mlive.com/redwings/index.ssf/20...y_sputters.html "The Red Wings must decide after the season whether Howard is part of their future. If he's not, they could attempt to re-sign Ty Conklin or pursue another free-agent goalie because Howard can't be sent down to the minors next season without going through waivers." Think they might make a trade for a draft pick? I think this is a bad move. The Wings are never going to know how good Howard is if they only play him 1 game. Edited February 22, 2009 by Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shadow47 1 Report post Posted February 22, 2009 He's going back to Grand Rapids, no doubt he'll be recalled again. Osgood is still in the can, remember? That said, how about dumping everyone and getting a REAL goalie for once. What's Craig Anderson in Florida up to these days? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lets go pavel 2 Report post Posted February 22, 2009 He's going back to Grand Rapids, no doubt he'll be recalled again. Osgood is still in the can, remember? That said, how about dumping everyone and getting a REAL goalie for once. What's Craig Anderson in Florida up to these days? Hell yeah! He's the first person I think of when we're talking about REAL goalies ... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sixer 37 Report post Posted February 22, 2009 I think this is a bad move. The Wings are never going to know how good Howard is if they only play him 1 game. +1 One here and there is not the way to do it. You need for example three straight starts to get a feel for him at NHL level. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wing Across The Pond 196 Report post Posted February 22, 2009 trade howard, he was too slow last night and has never really impressed me in his few NHL games. but i like to be proved wrong, so give us what you got Jimmy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chelichic 12 Report post Posted February 22, 2009 Cant wait to see Ozzy on the 25th!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
b.shanafan14 733 Report post Posted February 22, 2009 Howard hasn't showed anything impressive in any of his call ups over the past few years. In his defense, he hasn't gotten enough starts at the NHL level to really get a firm handle on what he could potentially be once he got used to the speed and skill of the big clubs. But thats one of the things about being a consistent threat and defending Stanley Cup champion, when you're in a dog fight for 1st place in the West sometimes you can't wait out a goalies poor play, thats why Howard got the call up in the first place. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cusimano_brothers 1,655 Report post Posted February 22, 2009 Others haven taken note. From the article: General manager Bob Gainey told Kovalev to take a few days off and he didn't accompany the team on its road road trip to Washington and Pittsburgh. Kovalev said on Saturday that the rest might have been a good thing and Carbonneau noted: "Nobody likes to see something like that, but there's a lot of pressure and sometimes it's necessary. You see Detroit doing the same thing with (goaltender Chris) Osgood." Carbonneau jokingly said the downside to Kovalev's performance is that more players will be asking for three days off. Pressure. Pressure? Pressure is being a goaltender with the DRW; always has and always will be. It sure isn't being a captain wannabe. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
puckloo39 5,686 Report post Posted February 22, 2009 Let's hope rookie Howard's bad outing, with possibly the Wings' worst outing of the season in front of him, gave Ozzie some "confidence." I am semi-joking here. I think more of Ozzie than that, honestly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dat's sick 1,002 Report post Posted February 22, 2009 So Howard is being sent back down. Fine, now bring up Larsson and start him against he Kings, see what he's made of. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Crymson Report post Posted February 22, 2009 Howard hasn't showed anything impressive in any of his call ups over the past few years. In his defense, he hasn't gotten enough starts at the NHL level to really get a firm handle on what he could potentially be once he got used to the speed and skill of the big clubs. But thats one of the things about being a consistent threat and defending Stanley Cup champion, when you're in a dog fight for 1st place in the West sometimes you can't wait out a goalies poor play, thats why Howard got the call up in the first place. I thought Howard did very well last season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edicius 3,269 Report post Posted February 22, 2009 Not surprised. Howard's been inconsistent with the Griffins (from what I've been able to tell) and his rebound control is akin to having trampolines on the front of his pads. I've never been confident with Howard in net. Joey Mac always impressed me more, honestly, but that's not saying much. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
interminded 1 Report post Posted February 22, 2009 Howard has been in inconsistent the last 4 years. Yet still, every time his name is mentioned he's been called the goalie of the future in one breath. He's a talented goaltender, no doubt about it. But isn't it time to leave that label behind and to cash in on that talent ? That's just not happening and to be honest, I don't see that happen in the future either. I don't think Jimmy Howard is DRW's big future in goaltending. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wingsallwin 0 Report post Posted February 22, 2009 Well, now Howard is sent down to GR again because of bad performance last night. However, we have to know this. If we do not resign Conklin for next year, then our goaltending rotation will be Howard and Osgood. If we consider Osgood cannot bounce back to his game since this season, what do we have to seriously? Then, we have to resign good goalie or making Howard the starting goalie. I do not particularly see Howard played that bad last night. He made some good saves from many turnovers and breakaways. By our cap situation, we even cannot resign an expensive goalie. That's why I think we do not have to sign both Franzen and Hossa. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
puckloo39 5,686 Report post Posted February 22, 2009 By our cap situation, we even cannot resign an expensive goalie. That's why I think we do not have to sign both Franzen and Hossa. If the goalie situation doesn't get resolved, perhaps by the players we have to work with, the Wings have to re-sign Mule and Hossa. We'll need the offense. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shaman 713 Report post Posted February 22, 2009 I have used this image of doomsday to scare people on this board before 2009-2010 Red Wings season Osgood starting 55+ games Howard starting 20+ Anyone else afraid? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VM1138 1,921 Report post Posted February 22, 2009 (edited) Howard hasn't showed anything impressive in any of his call ups over the past few years. In his defense, he hasn't gotten enough starts at the NHL level to really get a firm handle on what he could potentially be once he got used to the speed and skill of the big clubs. But thats one of the things about being a consistent threat and defending Stanley Cup champion, when you're in a dog fight for 1st place in the West sometimes you can't wait out a goalies poor play, thats why Howard got the call up in the first place. Exactly. I have nothing against the kid and want him to be our future, but he's not. He's had poor performances in every single call-up. I know young goalies need a chance to prove their worth but usually there is something you can hang your hat on and expect improvement on. But Howard has not really shown any moments of greatness other than a lucky save here or there. And he's not even consistent in the AHL. If you can't play at the AHL level, what makes anyone think he can play in the NHL? I think free agency is the only way to go, unfortunately. Hopefully our other goalie prospects will pan out like we expect. EDIT: I'm thinking Holland's game plan is changing now that he sees we don't have any reliable goalie other than Conklin. However, I do feel that the "refocusing" will be good for Ozzie and he will return to form to carry us through the playoffs. If he doesn't though, I think we see Mule let go to free up cap space, or Flip, and we take a risk on signing a $4 million dollar goalie. Edited February 22, 2009 by VM1138 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Winged_Wheeler 3 Report post Posted February 22, 2009 Howard has been in inconsistent the last 4 years. Yet still, every time his name is mentioned he's been called the goalie of the future in one breath. He's a talented goaltender, no doubt about it. But isn't it time to leave that label behind and to cash in on that talent ? That's just not happening and to be honest, I don't see that happen in the future either. I don't think Jimmy Howard is DRW's big future in goaltending. Just remember though, last night if Chris Osgood was in goal the score wouldn't have been any better. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Winged_Wheeler 3 Report post Posted February 22, 2009 I have used this image of doomsday to scare people on this board before 2009-2010 Red Wings season Osgood starting 55+ games Howard starting 20+ Anyone else afraid? If Osgood can't recover from his Stanley Cup hangover or what ever funk he is in I say trade his ass and try to keep Conklin. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
interminded 1 Report post Posted February 22, 2009 (edited) Just remember though, last night if Chris Osgood was in goal the score wouldn't have been any better. And if we had Roberto Luongo in goal we would have won 4-1. With Tim Thomas it would have been 3-1. If Terry Sawchuk was in goal last night we would have had a shutout for sure. And of course, with Ozzie in goal he would have been shelled 6-1 and pulled after only one period. Where did you buy your crystal ball ? I got it as a parting gift from my mental hospital when last summer after 4 years... Edited February 22, 2009 by interminded Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wingsallwin 0 Report post Posted February 22, 2009 And if we had Roberto Luongo in goal we would have won 4-1. With Tim Thomas it would have been 3-1. If Terry Sawchuk was in goal last night we would have had a shutout for sure. And of course, with Ozzie in goal he would have been shelled 6-1 and pulled after only one period. Where did you buy your crystal ball ? I got it as a parting gift from my mental hospital when last summer after 4 years... Agree. Even though I do not like this season's Osgood's performance, there is no just assumption how the things can be changed or gone. But let me tell something. Like there is no assumption on individual player, there is no magical assumption that Ozzie will turn around in the playoff either Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wingsallwin 0 Report post Posted February 22, 2009 If the goalie situation doesn't get resolved, perhaps by the players we have to work with, the Wings have to re-sign Mule and Hossa. We'll need the offense. I like the Wings stack up with tons of their offensive talent but if you see the Flyers, Biron has been just awfully terrinble during whole his career except for the last season. Detroit can be like that. I am saying this seriously. If we sign both Franzen and Hossa, where do you make the cap room for the goalie? Well, if Osgood turns real good or Howard becomes a super man next season, then we do not have to work on that. However, like you said, 'we'll need the offense'. If we see our lines, even though one of Hossa and Franzen goes out, our offenses will still work in the future I think Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
