stevkrause 1,247 Report post Posted March 11, 2009 Zetterberg-Datsyk-Holmstrom Franzen-Filpulla-Hossa Hudler-Draper-Cleary Leino-Helm-Samuelsson Kopecky Maltby Meech Lidstrom-Rafalski Stuart-Kronwall Lilja-Ericsson Chelios Lebda Meech Conklin Osgood Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carman 387 Report post Posted March 11, 2009 (edited) Zetterberg-Datsyk-Holmstrom Franzen-Filpulla-Hossa Hudler-Draper-Cleary Maltby/Leino-Helm-Kopecky/Samuelsson Maltby or Leino sitting depending on the game. Same with Kopecky/Samuellsson. Lidstrom-Rafalski Stuart-Kronwall Lilja-Ericsson Chelios Lebda Meech Conklin - Osgood whoever plays better toward the end. Ride the hot goalie. Edited March 11, 2009 by Carman Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spinner 6 Report post Posted March 11, 2009 Zetterberg-Datsyuk-Holmstrom Hudler-Helm-Hossa Franzen-Fillpula-Cleary Leino-Draper-Samuelson Maltby Kopecky Meech Lidstrom-Rafalski Kronwell-Stuart Ericsson-Lilja Chelios Lebda Osgood-Conklin Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Decoy Jones 0 Report post Posted March 11, 2009 (edited) Zetterberg Datsyk Holmstrom 1A Franzen Filpula Hossa 1B Helm Draper Cleary - Fast, Grit and can maybe score a little Hudler Sammy Kopecky/Leino/Maltby Depending on what team we're playing Lidstrom-Rafalski Kronwall-Stuart Lilja-Ericsson/Lebda Chelios-Meech both sit untl someone gets Injured Conklin Osgood Unless Ozzie promises to play like he did in the playoffs last year Edited March 12, 2009 by Decoy Jones Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevkrause 1,247 Report post Posted March 11, 2009 Zetterberg-Datsyuk-Holmstrom Hudler-Helm-Hossa Franzen-Fillpula-Cleary Leino-Draper-Samuelson Maltby Kopecky Meech Lidstrom-Rafalski Kronwell-Stuart Ericsson-Lilja Chelios Lebda Osgood-Conklin I'm sorry, I know these are all opinion and I don't mean to demean yours, but Helm is not a 2nd line center... I can see an argument for him centering the 3rd line, but come on... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GoWings1905 2,694 Report post Posted March 11, 2009 I know everyone is impressed with Leino (as am I), but I really can't see Leino dressing in the playoffs over Kopecky or Maltby. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Decoy Jones 0 Report post Posted March 11, 2009 (edited) I think if I were Babs I would want the Wings to have balance. How do I bring balance to such a team but more importantly, how do I waste time at work? Simple Mathmatical fomula! Simply make the lines by making the lines closest to each other by the number the players wear on their jerseys. Note this isn't based on who I like or who plays well or anything. This is just the math of a balanced team. Some people sit because the ir number doesn't fit in the average. So here we go Cleary Holmstrom Zetterberg 11+96+40= 147 Datsyk Franzen Sammy 13+93+37=143 Maltby Kopecky Helm 18+82+43=143 Hudler Hossa Draper 26+81+33=140 Sorry no Filpula or Leino! Defense Kronwall Lilja 55+3=58 Ericcson Lidstrom 52+5=57 Rafalski Chelios 28+24=52 Note: One could argue that Chelios can't play the western road games because it's past his bedtime. Not to worry. In the event put in Stuart for Chelios and that line becomes 28+23=51. And as you may notice, this only the loss of one point. To me, this equation not only highlights how much time I can waste on the clock, but how deep this team is. These may not be ideal lines of defense pairing but there isn't really any glaring problems. Edited March 12, 2009 by Decoy Jones Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wingsallwin 0 Report post Posted March 11, 2009 Zetterberg-Datsyuk-Holmstrom Hossa-Franzen-Filppula Hudler-Samuelsson-Leino(I hope) Draper-Kopecky-Maltby Scratch:Helm Lidstrom-Rafalski Kronwall-Ericsson(or Stuart) Lilja-Stuart(or Ericsson) Scratch:Lebda Conklin Scratch:Osgood Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
55fan 5,133 Report post Posted March 11, 2009 Zetterberg-Datsyuk-Holmstrom Hossa-Franzen-Filppula Hudler-Samuelsson-Leino(I hope) Draper-Kopecky-Maltby Scratch:Helm Lidstrom-Rafalski Kronwall-Ericsson(or Stuart) Lilja-Stuart(or Ericsson) Scratch:Lebda Conklin Scratch:Osgood I am impressed! 8 posts and someone finally spelled Filppula right! ZDH is pretty much a given. (I did say "pretty much".) After that, it gets murky. I agree with Decoy Jones (the real one, but I enjoyed the numbers as well). Wait a minute- the real Decoy?... Bottom line: This team is stacked. Let's just hope they come out with all guns a-firing and play serious hockey. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
norrisnick 1 Report post Posted March 11, 2009 Cleary - Datsyuk - Hossa Holmstrom - Zetterberg - Samuelsson Hudler - Filppula - Franzen Kopecky - Draper - Helm/Maltby Lidstrom - Rafalski Kronwall - Stuart Ericsson - Lilly Lebda/Chelios/Meech Osgood Conklin Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shaman 713 Report post Posted March 11, 2009 Dats-Hank-Homer Hossa-Franzen-Hudler Cleary-Flip-Leino Helm-Draper-Sammy Lids-Raffy Kronner-Stuart Lilja-Ericsson Conklin Osgood (reserves Maltby, Kopecky and Lebda) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
titanium2 867 Report post Posted March 11, 2009 I'm going to start with the defense because I couldn't really imagine they would change all that much or a change that would significantly impact the outcome. Nick-Rafi Junior-Stewie Ericsson-Lils *I'm hesitant to put Ericsson there because of Lebda's playoff experience, but I really think they could use his big body along the boards in the playoffs. Forwards If Pav and Z are together... Pav-Z-Homer Mule-Fil-Hoss Bear-Drapes-Sammy Huds-Helm-Kopy *Maltby & Leino as the main reserves for Kopy's spot If Pav and Z are apart or if they just need a shakeup in general... Mule-Pav-Homer Bear-Z-Hoss Fil-Drapes-Sammy Huds-Helm-Kopy *Maltby & Leino as the main reserves for Kopy's spot *I really liked the Mule-Pav-Homer line during that winning streak in early winter. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ltgator333 3 Report post Posted March 12, 2009 (edited) Pavel - Z - Cleary (Pavel and Z are magicians together, period. Cleary can skate, Homer can't.) Mulestien - Valteri - Hossa (Filpulla is going to step it up at this point, he should be given the opportunity even if he does lose it.) Homer - Hudler - Sammy (I would consider putting Leino on this line, or Valteri for Hudler if he doesn't get it done.) Malts - Drapes - Helm (Nothing against Kopecky so much but there's only one person on the whole team with the speed of Helm- Hossa.) Leino, Kopy and Downey could sub in 3rd or 4th line as need be. Lidstrom - Kronner Brian - Stewie I like these pairings better because you have a physical D with a puck moving D. These guys are professionals they make this work really well. Lilja - Chelios/Ericsson/Lebda (Whoever wants to play good hockey) Conklin Osgood If one doesn't get it done, the other will. Hopefully, in either case. Edited March 12, 2009 by ltgator333 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xBrave_Heartx 0 Report post Posted March 12, 2009 Hossa - Datsyuk - Holmstrom Hudler - Zetterberg - Franzen Cleary - Filppula - Sammy/Draper Helm - Kopecky - Draper/Sammy 1- Maltby, 2- Leino, 3- Meech Lidstrom - Rafalski Kronner - Ericsson Stuart - Lilja 1- Lebda, 2- Chelios, 3- Meech Conklin Ozzie Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ZigZagYourTorso 8 Report post Posted March 12, 2009 Zetterberg - Datsyuk - Holmstrom Hossa - Franzen - Leino Hudler - Filppula - Cleary Helm- Draper - Samuelson Lidstrom - Rafalski Kronwall - Ericcson Stuart - Lilja Osgood/Conklin Scratches - Maltby, Kopecky, Downey, Meech, Lebda, Chelios Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zetterling 16 Report post Posted March 12, 2009 Zetterberg-Datsyuk-Franzen Hossa-Cleary-Holmstrom Hudler-Filpulla-Samuelsson Draper-Leino-Kopecky Lidstrom-Rafalski Kronwall-Stuart Lilja-Ericsson Lebda/Chelios Osgood gets the start of the first game and everyone prays. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eva unit zero 271 Report post Posted March 12, 2009 (edited) My forward lineups would consist, for the first three lines, of three roles. Playmaker, Finisher, and Screen/Cleanup. I have them arranged by position. Playmakers are Datsyuk/Hudler/Filppula, Finishers are Zetterberg/Hossa/Samuelsson, and Screen/Cleanup are Holmstrom/Franzen/Cleary. The fourth line would be a shut down line whose primary job was to gain control of the puck and to play a physical game when called upon. Zetterberg/Datsyuk/Holmstrom Franzen/Hudler/Hossa Cleary/Filppula/Samuelsson Helm/Draper/Kopecky OR Holmstrom/Datsyuk/Hossa Hudler/Zetterberg/Franzen Cleary/Filppula/Samuelsson Helm/Draper/Kopecky If a Playmaker or Finisher from a scoring line or Kopecky was injured, Leino would be the forward called upon and put into the lineup. For example, if Zetterberg were injured, Leino could take a wing spot as Finisher on the second line with Hudler or Franzen moving to center. If Filppula were injured, Leino could simply serve as the Playmaker on the third line, with either Leino or Cleary taking the center spot. If a Screen/Cleanup from a scoring line or a checking line forward other than Kopecky was injured, Maltby would be called upon and put in Kopecky's spot, and Kopecky would be promoted to either the second or third scoring line. For example, if Holmstrom were injured, Cleary or Franzen could be moved up to play with Datsyuk, and Kopecky replaces their previous Screen/Cleanup spot, with Maltby taking the fourth line spot. As far as forwards after Leino and Maltby, I don't feel it needs to be addressed specifically. The top-six defense would be: Lidstrom/Rafalski Kronwall/Stuart Ericsson/Lilja Chelios Lebda Meech I would rank Meech above Lebda, but for Lebda's experience. Goaltending Osgood/Conklin Edited March 12, 2009 by eva unit zero Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KrazyGangsta 79 Report post Posted March 12, 2009 Hossa Datsyuk Holmstrom Franzen Zetterberg Hudler Leino Filppula Cleary Helm Draper Sammy Lids Rafalski Kronner Stuart Lilja Ericsson Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ben_usmc 253 Report post Posted March 12, 2009 (edited) ZDH Leino-Flip-Hossa Hudler/Cleary/Mule Sammy/Helm/Kopecky line1) obvious line 2) Leino should play top 6 min. if he is on the roster, Flip works well with Hossa and is finally starting to wake up. Both Hossa and Leino can even create there own if need be. We would have 2 great shooters on the line and a good passer. line 3) Hudler with his quick shot, Cleary with the driving to the net, and Mule seems to work well with Hudler. line 4)Sammy agitates, Helm is aggressive and like to hit, and well Kopecky tries to hit, Sammy can be the shooter, Helm setting up, and Kopecky driving the net. Lids/Raffy Kronner/Big Rig Stuart/lilja Either Big Rig or lilja could play 4/6 dman I just feel they are more willing to play stay at home; we know Kronner like to pinch, so I normally would put Lilja at 4 but in the past he hasn't been to successful with that time. Stuart has been playing a bit sloppy so giving him less min. would help. Conk Ozzy coach: Babcock, benusmc Edited March 12, 2009 by ben_usmc Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spinner 6 Report post Posted March 12, 2009 (edited) I'm sorry, I know these are all opinion and I don't mean to demean yours, but Helm is not a 2nd line center... I can see an argument for him centering the 3rd line, but come on... You're probably right, and Filppula has come on stronger as of late and would probably be a better fit. I would keep the Huds Hossa part of it tho. I thought they played well together earlier in the season for the few games they did. They seemed to have some good chemistry. Helm just seems more of a play maker than Fillpula has been. That's why I chose him. (sp) Edited March 12, 2009 by Spinner Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
55fan 5,133 Report post Posted March 12, 2009 Well thought out, Eva. I prefer your first scenario. I might promote Ericsson to #4, depending on how his wrist is, and how well he continues to perform. I'm just not as comfortable with the Kron/Stu pairing as I was last year. They might turn back into the great tandem they were during the playoffs, but I haven't felt that chemistry this year. I could easily be wrong, though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KrazyGangsta 79 Report post Posted March 12, 2009 You're probably right, and Filppula has come on stronger as of late and would probably be a better fit. I would keep the Huds Hossa part of it tho. I thought they played well together earlier in the season for the few games they did. They seemed to have some good chemistry. Helm just seems more of a play maker than Fillpula has been. That's why I chose him. (sp) Helm is not a play maker, Helm just is so fast and uses that to his advantage. Most of the time the defender just goes on him so he could cut Helm's speed which leaves another player open, he eventually passes the puck to the player. He also just shoots the puck more then Flip which eventually creates chances to score. Helm is energy / grinder player. Filppula is playmaker /defensive. The problem with Filppula is his just to weak on the puck. He get's bumped off too easily. His not to grindy and has a hard time fighting battles at the boards. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Superman54 91 Report post Posted March 12, 2009 Z - D - H Franzen - Filppula - Hossa Cleary - Draper - Sammuelson Hudler - Helm - Kopecky Maltby Leino Lidstrom - Rafalski Kronwall - Stuart Lilja - Ericcsson Lebda Chelios Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Saran 1 Report post Posted March 12, 2009 My forward lineups would consist, for the first three lines, of three roles. Playmaker, Finisher, and Screen/Cleanup. I have them arranged by position. Playmakers are Datsyuk/Hudler/Filppula, Finishers are Zetterberg/Hossa/Samuelsson, and Screen/Cleanup are Holmstrom/Franzen/Cleary. The fourth line would be a shut down line whose primary job was to gain control of the puck and to play a physical game when called upon. Zetterberg/Datsyuk/Holmstrom Franzen/Hudler/Hossa Cleary/Filppula/Samuelsson Helm/Draper/Kopecky OR Holmstrom/Datsyuk/Hossa Hudler/Zetterberg/Franzen Cleary/Filppula/Samuelsson Helm/Draper/Kopecky If a Playmaker or Finisher from a scoring line or Kopecky was injured, Leino would be the forward called upon and put into the lineup. For example, if Zetterberg were injured, Leino could take a wing spot as Finisher on the second line with Hudler or Franzen moving to center. If Filppula were injured, Leino could simply serve as the Playmaker on the third line, with either Leino or Cleary taking the center spot. If a Screen/Cleanup from a scoring line or a checking line forward other than Kopecky was injured, Maltby would be called upon and put in Kopecky's spot, and Kopecky would be promoted to either the second or third scoring line. For example, if Holmstrom were injured, Cleary or Franzen could be moved up to play with Datsyuk, and Kopecky replaces their previous Screen/Cleanup spot, with Maltby taking the fourth line spot. As far as forwards after Leino and Maltby, I don't feel it needs to be addressed specifically. The top-six defense would be: Lidstrom/Rafalski Kronwall/Stuart Ericsson/Lilja Chelios Lebda Meech I would rank Meech above Lebda, but for Lebda's experience. Goaltending Osgood/Conklin have you every considered publishing your various novels? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
elriqo28 2 Report post Posted March 12, 2009 I think if I were Babs I would want the Wings to have balance. How do I bring balance to such a team but more importantly, how do I waste time at work? Simple Mathmatical fomula! Simply make the lines by making the lines closest to each other by the number the players wear on their jerseys. Note this isn't based on who I like or who plays well or anything. This is just the math of a balanced team. Some people sit because the ir number doesn't fit in the average. So here we go Cleary Holmstrom Zetterberg 11+96+40= 147 Datsyk Franzen Sammy 13+93+37=143 Maltby Kopecky Helm 18+82+3=143 Hudler Hossa Draper 26+81+33=140 Sorry no Filpula or Leino! Defense Kronwall Lilja 55+3=58 Ericcson Lidstrom 52+5=57 Rafalski Chelios 28+24=52 Note: One could argue that Chelios can't play the western road games because it's past his bedtime. Not to worry. In the event put in Stuart for Chelios and that line becomes 28+23=51. And as you may notice, this only the loss of one point. To me, this equation not only highlights how much time I can waste on the clock, but how deep this team is. These may not be ideal lines of defense pairing but there isn't really any glaring problems. possibly the most brilliant waste of work time ever! I love it! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
