Promise me this Wings Fans

[DraperFan MN 0]

Where in my reply did I ever say Detroit WASN't a good organization? Clearly they are one of if not the model franchise in the NHL.

You just told another poster he/she didn't have any clue about the quality of the Pens organization...so I was looking for some evidence. I'm not saying you won't have the evidence.....eventually, but they have a ways to go.

The rest of my response is directed towards the initial post of this thread (which I didn't think you were responsible for, but I'll go back and look.)

[DraperFan MN 0]

You're the first Pens fan I have seen admit to that.

The Wings had a young captain once upon a time that had many things to work on, and once upon a time, the organization wasn't so sure he was going to overcome some of those challenges to become the player he did. Same with Crosby. He WILL be a great player, a Hall of Famer when it is all said done, I believe. However, I think it is going to take a bit more time.

[zenway9 1]

Didn't this GREAT Pens organization almost pack up and leave town? You fans better get on your knees and service Mario every day for his efforts to keep the Pens in the pit.

[DraperFan MN 0]

Didn't this GREAT Pens organization almost pack up and leave town? You fans better get on your knees and service Mario every day for his efforts to keep the Pens in the pit.

Meh, and Mario himself almost moved them to the Sprint Center in Kansas City. He took a trip there himself to meet with city officials. Mario wasn't as loyal about keeping the Pens in town as many people would like to think he is. Was that always his number one goal? Absolutely, but he wasn't opposed to packing up and leaving town either.

[Psychlone 0]

Meh, and Mario himself almost moved them to the Sprint Center in Kansas City. He took a trip there himself to meet with city officials. Mario wasn't as loyal about keeping the Pens in town as many people would like to think he is. Was that always his number one goal? Absolutely, but he wasn't opposed to packing up and leaving town either.

Game 1- Nice Job Wings, Osgood was awesome and the hockey gods were on their side. At least the pens played better than last year's Game 1 but if they don't find a way to win tomorrow they are going to be facing a huge uphill climb.

[RainingBlood 8]

Game 1- Nice Job Wings, Osgood was awesome and the hockey gods were on their side. At least the pens played better than last year's Game 1 but if they don't find a way to win tomorrow they are going to be facing a huge uphill climb.

:nopity:

[dawings1905 2]

If, and I realize that's a big if, the Penguins win this series, give them some credit, admit you were wrong about them, and don't make any excuses. I don't want to hear about how so and so was not 100%, the refs screwed us, the schedule screwed us blah blah blah.

If the Wings are as big and bad as you think they are and to this point I have no reason to believe otherwise, they should be able to overcome any of the above obstacles to defeat what you say is a much weaker Eastern Conference team that hasn't played anyone, has a crappy defense, has Crosby and Malkin and nobody else, blah blah blah.

As classy as the Wings organization is, I hope that their fans will be equally classy in defeat. Show us why you're better than Flyers, Capitals, and Canes fans if the Penguins win.

If the Wings win, I promise to do the same.

My only problem with this post is this......Before the Finals last year over on the Pens board they gave us ZERO credit whatsoever, and all the talk was about why not to fear the wings, and how the Pens would walk all over us. (Folks were even being presumptious enough to talk about......How many games before wing fans start complaining about the officiating!! Those were actual posts on the board. Then after we won, all the talk was about how we only won because all's we do is clutch and grab.....and how if the NHL called the series like they do in the regular season, the Pens would have beaten us. Now you want us to be nothing but congradulatory if the Pens were to win? Comon, get real. My other problem is this. As a Pens fan, do you really think the Pens would be the same team without either Sid or Geno, + 3 other regulars from their lineup? Really? I have no problem admitting when someone is better, heck the lions are the worst team in the NFL, and I have no problem saying it. But, I really feel like if this series had started a week from now, the Wings would have been the much better of the two teams. This early start evened things up alot. I will say, that I think the Pens are a much improved team over last season. IMO, their only weakness is on D. Orpik and Gonch are solid, but after that....... If the Pens ever get that solidified then they are a dynasty in the making.... IMO.

[hillbillywingsfan 794]

so if the pens as players can't lose with dignity ala crybaby after the game tonight can we expect the fans to?

[DraperFan MN 0]

Game 1- Nice Job Wings, Osgood was awesome and the hockey gods were on their side. At least the pens played better than last year's Game 1 but if they don't find a way to win tomorrow they are going to be facing a huge uphill climb.

[Kira 451]

They can hold off finding a way to win for another three games. We won't hold it against them. Honest.

[dawings1905 2]

If, and I realize that's a big if, the Penguins win this series, give them some credit, admit you were wrong about them, and don't make any excuses. I don't want to hear about how so and so was not 100%, the refs screwed us, the schedule screwed us blah blah blah.

If the Wings are as big and bad as you think they are and to this point I have no reason to believe otherwise, they should be able to overcome any of the above obstacles to defeat what you say is a much weaker Eastern Conference team that hasn't played anyone, has a crappy defense, has Crosby and Malkin and nobody else, blah blah blah.

As classy as the Wings organization is, I hope that their fans will be equally classy in defeat. Show us why you're better than Flyers, Capitals, and Canes fans if the Penguins win.

If the Wings win, I promise to do the same.

This series is not over yet (by a long shot), but I was wondering if you had the time to review the posts on both the message board at the Pens NHL site, and at LGP yet? You know the 10,000 topics and posts where they give the Wings ZERO credit for the first two wins? Basically blaming the losses on everything from the Refs, to the boards at JLA. And you want us to not make excuses if we lose? To me it speaks volumes that the Wings are able to keep winning without Dats, Drapes, Lilja, and Kops. That is some serious depth. Try to imagine if you will.....the Pens playing (the wings) without Malkin, Talbot, Scuderi, and Adams. I think that comparison is pretty close.

[Snazzy 0]

This series is not over yet (by a long shot), but I was wondering if you had the time to review the posts on both the message board at the Pens NHL site, and at LGP yet? You know the 10,000 topics and posts where they give the Wings ZERO credit for the first two wins? Basically blaming the losses on everything from the Refs, to the boards at JLA. And you want us to not make excuses if we lose? To me it speaks volumes that the Wings are able to keep winning without Dats, Drapes, Lilja, and Kops. That is some serious depth. Try to imagine if you will.....the Pens playing (the wings) without Malkin, Talbot, Scuderi, and Adams. I think that comparison is pretty close.

I doubt they'll come back... unless their team manages a win.

[Rocket Queen 30 1]

If, and I realize that's a big if, the Penguins win this series, give them some credit, admit you were wrong about them, and don't make any excuses. I don't want to hear about how so and so was not 100%, the refs screwed us, the schedule screwed us blah blah blah.

If the Wings are as big and bad as you think they are and to this point I have no reason to believe otherwise, they should be able to overcome any of the above obstacles to defeat what you say is a much weaker Eastern Conference team that hasn't played anyone, has a crappy defense, has Crosby and Malkin and nobody else, blah blah blah.

As classy as the Wings organization is, I hope that their fans will be equally classy in defeat. Show us why you're better than Flyers, Capitals, and Canes fans if the Penguins win.

If the Wings win, I promise to do the same.

Correct me if I'm wrong but weren't you the Pens fan who told another member of this forum who is a Wings fan... to die earlier today? I think you did. If Pittsburgh wins, they'll deserve full marks for a miraculous come back but, make no mistake, the Red Wings will have to suffer an implosion of epic proportions for that to happen. This series isn't over as far as games available to be played, but Detroit likes winning, they're good at it. It's what they do. I honestly don't see them losing this and I'm not being presumptuous. Realistically speaking, aside from Osgood and Helm, they haven't necessarily been playing to the best of their abilities lately. They can play better than they have been. Chicago can attest to that, should there be any lingering doubt about it.

Quite frankly I'm stunned by Pittsburgh's ineptitude. These guys steam rolled Carolina and have basically been taken to task by a team that was supposed to be too old and battered to hold it together for back to back games. Hossa, who was supposed to wilt like a flower in the sun, under the enormous pressure of having to play against the team he betrayed, has been all over them and while he hasn't scored, I suspect he'll be knocking on that door soon enough. We don't even have Datsyuk in the line up. We don't even have Pavel Datsyuk in the line up. If the Penguins manage to take this series from Detroit they will have deserved the win, because the Red Wings will have gift wrapped it for them. Don't bet on that.

[Snazzy 0]

BUMP!

[HadThomasVokounOnFortSt 878]

Alright dude, I won't talk s*** IF we win.

[T.OWingsFan 7]

(Folks were even being presumptious enough to talk about......How many games before wing fans start complaining about the officiating!! Those were actual posts on the board. Then after we won, all the talk was about how we only won because all's we do is clutch and grab.....and how if the NHL called the series like they do in the regular season, the Pens would have beaten us.

Same thing this time around. Some gems from their HF boards forum;

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The Obstruction

Honestly when will the refs call all the obstruction these guys do every singe second on the ice, its disgusting. Crosby can't stake for 5 seconds without getting a stick or a hand on him same withe every team that plays Detroit. Trust me they don't have good defense they just obstruct the opposition to frustation. Byslma needs to speak out against this, Lemieux anyone.

"Its a Garage league".

I would like to see someone from Pittsburgh management speak up against this. This is not hockey.

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We'll just agree to disagree. What I've seen in the past two games is a revision back to the dead puck days. Players are not being allowed to skate freely without a pick, stick or arm inhibiting them whether they have the puck or not.

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I think the biggest joke is the pile of bodies in the net. I honestly think there should be a rule that even a defensive team player can't be in the crease, unless they are pushed in.

Think about it....

The casual fan is used to understanding roles and responsibilities of the players. They see goalie = guarding the net. That's clear.

Then they see 4 guys in there when things get close, and the first question that comes up is "how the heck are you ever supposed to score?" Just perception.

Yes...maybe I'm biased, but that's how I see it!

[T.OWingsFan 7]

In other news....

Malkin didn't stick around to speak to the press after yesterday's loss and his non suspension. Wuss.

Crosby wasn't made available to the media today, which for me isn't really a problem because I'm tired of hearing him and seeing his mug on every commercial to be honest, but given how they've been shoving him down our throats for 3 seasons now, again a wussy move.

The Pens seem like a bunch of prima donna pansies to be honest.

[SouthernWingsFan 854]

If, and I realize that's a big if, the Penguins win this series, give them some credit, admit you were wrong about them, and don't make any excuses. I don't want to hear about how so and so was not 100%, the refs screwed us, the schedule screwed us blah blah blah.

If the Wings are as big and bad as you think they are and to this point I have no reason to believe otherwise, they should be able to overcome any of the above obstacles to defeat what you say is a much weaker Eastern Conference team that hasn't played anyone, has a crappy defense, has Crosby and Malkin and nobody else, blah blah blah.

As classy as the Wings organization is, I hope that their fans will be equally classy in defeat. Show us why you're better than Flyers, Capitals, and Canes fans if the Penguins win.

If the Wings win, I promise to do the same.

99 times out of 100 you won't hear much bitterness from my end. Conspiracy theories and theorists are the biggest waste of time, don't see much point in making yourself more miserable. And with refs, of course there are going to be bad calls, but they typically go both ways. That is what happen when human error gets involved, it's natural. Referees are not out to get one specific team or play favorites.

[Snazzy 0]

I just sent Psychlone a private message asking him to please come back and join us in his thread that he started. I miss him.

[Rocket Queen 30 1]

I just sent Psychlone a private message asking him to please come back and join us in his thread that he started. I miss him.

eeeexcellent....

[Vladiator 116]

Yeah check out how many of the Detroit fans that didn't have a chance to go to a game in this series and absolutely puked with the homer pens commentating.

Dats has not been in the lineup the whole series. What happens if he can go for game 3?? So the Wings get to counter Malkin or Crosby on two different lines and the Wings have 2 lines left? The Pens can't counter the Wings 3rd and 4th lines. Deal with that. That's why the Wings are up 2-0. That's why the Pens can never win without the help of Bettmen.

[truebladearmy 33]

If, and I realize that's a big if, the Penguins win this series, give them some credit, admit you were wrong about them, and don't make any excuses. I don't want to hear about how so and so was not 100%, the refs screwed us, the schedule screwed us blah blah blah.

If the Wings are as big and bad as you think they are and to this point I have no reason to believe otherwise, they should be able to overcome any of the above obstacles to defeat what you say is a much weaker Eastern Conference team that hasn't played anyone, has a crappy defense, has Crosby and Malkin and nobody else, blah blah blah.

As classy as the Wings organization is, I hope that their fans will be equally classy in defeat. Show us why you're better than Flyers, Capitals, and Canes fans if the Penguins win.

If the Wings win, I promise to do the same.

Why is it up 2-0, some people must be hugely pessimistic?

Jesus man, at least let Pittsburgh win one, before this kind of post.

[hockeysattva 8]

If, and I realize that's a big if, the Penguins win this series, give them some credit, admit you were wrong about them, and don't make any excuses. I don't want to hear about how so and so was not 100%, the refs screwed us, the schedule screwed us blah blah blah.

If the Wings are as big and bad as you think they are and to this point I have no reason to believe otherwise, they should be able to overcome any of the above obstacles to defeat what you say is a much weaker Eastern Conference team that hasn't played anyone, has a crappy defense, has Crosby and Malkin and nobody else, blah blah blah.

As classy as the Wings organization is, I hope that their fans will be equally classy in defeat. Show us why you're better than Flyers, Capitals, and Canes fans if the Penguins win.

If the Wings win, I promise to do the same.

I'm not wrong about them; I already give them credit, and I did last year, but healthy the Wings are the best team in the NHL hands down. That being said, the best team does not always win, this could become some sort of miracle on ice... [Note: the Russian team was far (out of sight far) better, but still lost. Anything can happen that's why the games are actually played.]

PS. When you say do the same, do you mean you will admit you made a mistake? Did you not think the Wings were downright amazing coming into this?

[hak 21]

If, and I realize that's a big if, the Penguins win this series, give them some credit, admit you were wrong about them, and don't make any excuses. I don't want to hear about how so and so was not 100%, the refs screwed us, the schedule screwed us blah blah blah.

If the Wings are as big and bad as you think they are and to this point I have no reason to believe otherwise, they should be able to overcome any of the above obstacles to defeat what you say is a much weaker Eastern Conference team that hasn't played anyone, has a crappy defense, has Crosby and Malkin and nobody else, blah blah blah.

As classy as the Wings organization is, I hope that their fans will be equally classy in defeat. Show us why you're better than Flyers, Capitals, and Canes fans if the Penguins win.

If the Wings win, I promise to do the same.

most pens fans havent given the wings any credit so far and seems to have everything to blame on bad luck & cheating. no reason for me to be classy and give credit in case pens step up and turn the series around..... except that im a classy person and will do it anyway. give credit where credit is due without whine and EXCUSES

[Doggy 130]

If, and I realize that's a big if, the Penguins win this series, give them some credit, admit you were wrong about them, and don't make any excuses. I don't want to hear about how so and so was not 100%, the refs screwed us, the schedule screwed us blah blah blah.

I already give the Pens a lot of credit. It's harsh they haven't gotten anything out of the 1st two games. The thing is though, I've been doing some reading through LGP - and pathetic whining and excuses is almost all you can read on that board right now. Sadly, there are only a handful of posters that seem to have sense and class. Right now, it looks as bad as a Flyers board in there so you should probably be getting on your own guys first about class.