Hockey News Predictons

[mmamolo 287]

Me chosing the words 'simple probability' was probably misleading. I didn't mean to imply that I was looking at it from a purely evenly weighted probable outcome standpoint. No two situations, in sports, are ever the same. I assumed that that was implied.

You're right, if you were to look at it from how you were explaining, it is just as likely. However, the intabgibles make it very unlikely and, again, I assumed that would be implied.

Either way, it's no big deal. We're getting into something based on semantics and interpretation of my original wording.

[truebladearmy 33]

I like the underestimation of Detroit year by year. It cracks me up.

"Welp. The Wings proved me wrong the last 15 years, but if I keep putting them as the underdog, it's bound to happen one of these days right? I mean....I can't be wrong forever.... 3rd in points for the season, and making it to game 7 of the finals is pretty much washed up, right?"

--News analyst

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Chicago will probably do better than last year, but I wouldn't put them as a presidents trophy finalist. San Jose, sure. Vancouver.....maybe. Detroit....still possible. But I think it's going to be between those three, with heavy favorite going to Detroit and San Jose.

For Detroit my prediction is:

--Win most of the preseason games. Detroit will play its young talent much like most other teams will do the same, and to be honest, our young talent is head above water against what many other teams have to offer.

--Opening game will be a 4-1 victory.

--Good strong opening this year, win 70% of the first 20 games.

--Average pre-allstar play. 55-60% win ratio for the next 20ish games. But a few streaks of loses.

--Post All star surge. Huge win streak, the kind where announcers will start talking about how they're only XYZ away from Franchise record. Will likely fall 1 short or tie it, but lose the one that would have counted if they do get close, again, heh.

--Decent closeout play. Average win/loss ratio. Few 3-4 win streaks. Few 2 game loss streaks.

--Final game of the regular season: 3-2 loss.

Osgoods best month: February.

You hear my magic 8ball prediction here first folks!

[Lovin Jiri Fischer 147]

I don't get the Wings hatred around the league. I really don't. Of course not everyone is going to be a Wings fan. But it's like the Wings lost game 7 of the finals and now sports analysts and writers are salivating at the idea of the Wings going 0-82. All this talk about the Wings finally falling from their 15-ish years of greatness is just wishful thinking. The Wings are staying put at the top tier, and no amount of Red Wings doomsday predictions will make it otherwise.

[Echolalia 2,961]

People seem to forget that we were a close second for the Presidents' Trophy last year as well one goal away from a repeat Stanley Cup championship. They also seem to forget that last year's regular season was abnormally bad defensively from a Wings standpoint, and the postseason was riddled with untimely injuries.

Heaven forbid the Wings don't get a plethora of injuries this year or learn their lesson defensively, or else watching hockey won't even be fun from all the one sided games and predictable sweeps to the Cup Wings fans will have to endure

[chrisdetroit 189]

Chicago, Calgary, San Jose, Detroit, St. Louis, Vancouver, Anaheim, Edmonton/Dallas

Anaheim's not going to be as hard off as people are writing them off to be so long as Hiller stays solid.

Mock me on St. Louis now but get back to me in March.

Chicago's potential goaltending issue is a reasonable concern but isn't as bad as it's hyped out to be especially considering their scoring power

Edmonton/Dallas will most likely find a swagger heading in

And here's the thing you're not considering when I say this: Matchups are going to mean more than anything this year. I spoke of this at length elsewhere, but the thing is, you're likely to see a 4-5 matchup featuring 2 teams that may in fact be superior to the 1st and 2nd place seeds. I think San Jose will run away with 1st due to their division but they may utterly pale in comparison to anyone in the central. Calgary won't have to be "amazingly super great" to win their division. I think the Central's up for grabs between Chicago and Detroit but it doesn't matter. Bottom line is that matchups are going to be more important than ever and it's for that reason that I think every team going in in the West is going to have a shot.

Like I said, laugh about St. Louis now, but when they have a great season this year and head into the playoffs, maybe they pull a 7-8 seed due to being in a tougher division and play San Jose. I think they'll have a real good chance of beating San Jose. They do that and they kill a 1 seed and meanwhile, a 4-5 seed team that may be better than the 1-2 teams goes out. You see what I'm getting at? The West is going to be wild this year and down the stretch and into the playoffs, there's going to be a lot more factors involved in predicting who will go the distance.

P.S. Even with Huet I as well as plenty of others in the commentary world think Chicago is a better team this year than last. Last year they put up 104 points and we put up 112. While it very well could be a tossup, there's a very, very real possibility that Chicago will take the Central for the 3rd seed (I do think Central will be 3rd no matter what) and at that point, we'll probably end up 4th or 5th. Either way, even if we win, it's going to be a tougher fight than we had in the first couple rounds last year while Chicago will get someone like Anaheim most likely. On and on......I'm not saying we're done for, but again, I'm just saying, there's going to be a lot of variables to any teams post-season success that we haven't seen in awhile if ever.

I guess we define having "a sot to win the cup differently" Edomonton? Dallas? Pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeese

[gcom007 1,465]

I guess we define having "a sot to win the cup differently" Edomonton? Dallas? Pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeese

I don't know if I said "win" or not, but I didn't really mean it in retrospect. I don't think Edmonton or Dallas would beat whatever East team represented, but I think there'll be 8 Western teams with a shot. I don't think anyone would've said Edmonton would go to the finals in 2006 either. What'll make the 7-8 seeds better is likely deadline deals and if they find a groove and play a San Jose team that runs away with the conference solely because of their division, maybe they get on a role while two other top teams beat the s*** out of each other. I still say the West is wide open.

[egroen 384]

The year San Jose is not picked to win the West is the year I am going to be scared of them.

[tommingthepuck96 1]

Anyone else think the kings have a shot at the 8th seed if they can get solid goal tending from quick?

[Chunkylover 26]

I don't know if I said "win" or not, but I didn't really mean it in retrospect. I don't think Edmonton or Dallas would beat whatever East team represented, but I think there'll be 8 Western teams with a shot. I don't think anyone would've said Edmonton would go to the finals in 2006 either. What'll make the 7-8 seeds better is likely deadline deals and if they find a groove and play a San Jose team that runs away with the conference solely because of their division, maybe they get on a role while two other top teams beat the s*** out of each other. I still say the West is wide open.

Dallas is a very well-balanced team and if you swap them with the Blue Jackets of last season, every team that made the playoffs from the West could arguably have a shot at winning the conference. Well, maybe St. Louis would have been an outside chance but looking to next season, with a healthy team they could be dangerous.

The year San Jose is not picked to win the West is the year I am going to be scared of them.

It is a little silly to predict them to roll to the President's Trophy when there's no way of knowing what the roster is going to look like by the season's start. I wouldn't be surprised if there are some revisions as the season approaches. The Wings may end up being the favorite to win the West once the FA dust settles. Probably Chicago and even Calgary too.

Anyone else think the kings have a shot at the 8th seed if they can get solid goal tending from quick?

They have a shot for more than that if they get decent goaltending. Especially depending on how disjointed the Sharks are. Can the Kings win the Pacific title? I wouldn't be too surprised.

[Nicklin3011 0]

lol Wings fans get it thru ur stupid thick skulls. THE HAWKS ARE BETTER. Huet is better then osgood say all you want that huet is bad..huet is this. The man won 20+ games and showed what he could do with Chi and Wash. Lol at the dumbass who said the Det Chi Series wasnt close. It came down to two bad bounces and Chicago could have been up 2-1 in the series. #1 The Dan Cleary Breakaway goal, bad bounce on Seabrook. #2 The "heroic" Darren Helm goal. Terrible bounce from the s***ty stadium known as the Joe. How that goal was Heroic is beyond me it bounced right to him. Two All 4 of our lines can score...something Detwat cant say. Keith Seabrook > Lid Hjalmarrsson developing into a stud and Barker and Campbell WOW!

[Herr Hockey 0]

lol Wings fans get it thru ur stupid thick skulls. THE HAWKS ARE BETTER. Huet is better then osgood say all you want that huet is bad..huet is this. The man won 20+ games and showed what he could do with Chi and Wash. Lol at the dumbass who said the Det Chi Series wasnt close. It came down to two bad bounces and Chicago could have been up 2-1 in the series. #1 The Dan Cleary Breakaway goal, bad bounce on Seabrook. #2 The "heroic" Darren Helm goal. Terrible bounce from the s***ty stadium known as the Joe. How that goal was Heroic is beyond me it bounced right to him. Two All 4 of our lines can score...something Detwat cant say. Keith Seabrook > Lid Hjalmarrsson developing into a stud and Barker and Campbell WOW!

lmao

[GoWings1905 2,694]

lol Wings fans get it thru ur stupid thick skulls. THE HAWKS ARE BETTER. Huet is better then osgood say all you want that huet is bad..huet is this. The man won 20+ games and showed what he could do with Chi and Wash. Lol at the dumbass who said the Det Chi Series wasnt close. It came down to two bad bounces and Chicago could have been up 2-1 in the series. #1 The Dan Cleary Breakaway goal, bad bounce on Seabrook. #2 The "heroic" Darren Helm goal. Terrible bounce from the s***ty stadium known as the Joe. How that goal was Heroic is beyond me it bounced right to him. Two All 4 of our lines can score...something Detwat cant say. Keith Seabrook > Lid Hjalmarrsson developing into a stud and Barker and Campbell WOW!

It really wasn't close at all.

You conviently left out all the players the Red Wings were missing and STILL won in five.

[Herr Hockey 0]

It really wasn't close at all.

You conviently left out all the players the Red Wings were missing and STILL won in five.

That only begins to describe the flaws in his post. Looks like "RuutuAndHavlatOwnZetterberg" just got a new account. Anyone remember him?

[Echolalia 2,961]

lol Wings fans get it thru ur stupid thick skulls. THE HAWKS ARE BETTER.

I'll be happy to admit the Hawks are better if you can come up with some actual facts to back that statement up. Maybe a comparison of how many Cups each franchise won? Not fair? How about how many Cups each franchise won in the past 10 years? Still not fair? Okay lets try Presidents' trophies for the past 10 years. Still not fair?? Okay, how about just division championships for the past 10 years. You still don't like it, you say? Okay, how about who won the best of 7 matchup in the playoffs last year? Still not good?

Huet is better then osgood say all you want that huet is bad..huet is this. The man won 20+ games and showed what he could do with Chi and Wash.

Okay lets forget about the Hawks are better than the Wings argument. We'll call that one a draw. How about some evidence that Huet is better than Ozzy? Cup rings? Oh yeah, you don't want to go there. Playoff appearances? No, still too unfair... Career numbers? Not accurate? Okay, how about just playoff numbers. Still not good, huh. Time as number 1 goalie? You don't want to go there, either? Okay, we'll call this one a draw, too.

Lol at the dumbass who said the Det Chi Series wasnt close. It came down to two bad bounces and Chicago could have been up 2-1 in the series. #1 The Dan Cleary Breakaway goal, bad bounce on Seabrook. #2 The "heroic" Darren Helm goal. Terrible bounce from the s***ty stadium known as the Joe. How that goal was Heroic is beyond me it bounced right to him.

The Wings have a long history of winning games and series and Stanley Cups on lucky bounces. I mean, they don't really have any skill, right? Just about everything they do is just really lucky, it will wear off sooner or later. Probably sooner. I mean the luck has been going on for more than 10 years now, and all I keep hearing about are those damn bounces that keep more deserving teams like the 97 Flyers and the 98 Caps (badass even without Ovechkin) and the 2002 Canes and Avalanche teams (that Avs team is by far the best in history) and the 2008 Pens and the 2009 Chicago Blackhawks from rightfully claiming the Stanley Cup they worked so hard to get on skill and skill alone. It just sucks when some lesser team swoops in and wins it all all on luck. Oh well. 2010 is the year of the HAWK!!!

Two All 4 of our lines can score...something Detwat cant say. Keith Seabrook > Lid Hjalmarrsson developing into a stud and Barker and Campbell WOW!

Can't argue with facts. I'll be the first to admit we're a 1 line team and Lids needs to be traded for a bag of chips. Hell, if we had Seabrook we probably would've beaten your team without having to rely on luck! I mean all Lids does now a days is get his testicles busted. What good is that?

[mmamolo 287]

lol Wings fans get it thru ur stupid thick skulls. THE HAWKS ARE BETTER. Huet is better then osgood say all you want that huet is bad..huet is this. The man won 20+ games and showed what he could do with Chi and Wash. Lol at the dumbass who said the Det Chi Series wasnt close. It came down to two bad bounces and Chicago could have been up 2-1 in the series. #1 The Dan Cleary Breakaway goal, bad bounce on Seabrook. #2 The "heroic" Darren Helm goal. Terrible bounce from the s***ty stadium known as the Joe. How that goal was Heroic is beyond me it bounced right to him. Two All 4 of our lines can score...something Detwat cant say. Keith Seabrook > Lid Hjalmarrsson developing into a stud and Barker and Campbell WOW!

I'm sorry, you're free to have your own opinions and everything, but you sounded like a complete idiot in that post. That was a very subjective outlook on that series.

Not to mention how you could say that Seabrook is better than Lidstrom with a straight face is ridiculous. But fair enough, to each his own.

[Detroit # 1 Fan 2,204]

lol Wings fans get it thru ur stupid thick skulls. THE HAWKS ARE BETTER. Huet is better then osgood say all you want that huet is bad..huet is this. The man won 20+ games and showed what he could do with Chi and Wash. Lol at the dumbass who said the Det Chi Series wasnt close. It came down to two bad bounces and Chicago could have been up 2-1 in the series. #1 The Dan Cleary Breakaway goal, bad bounce on Seabrook. #2 The "heroic" Darren Helm goal. Terrible bounce from the s***ty stadium known as the Joe. How that goal was Heroic is beyond me it bounced right to him. Two All 4 of our lines can score...something Detwat cant say. Keith Seabrook > Lid Hjalmarrsson developing into a stud and Barker and Campbell WOW!

WOW! Is right, how can a team be so bad for so many years, have one good season and all the fairweather dummies return to the team? It's beyond me, that's why all you can say is WOW.

[King Crane 289]

I think that's really generous to rank Pittsburgh 3rd, it should be at the very most 4th or 5th. Although they won the cup (which is also a factor working against them), people forget they tied for 4th place in the regular season. And the reason they tied for fourth is the fact that they really don't have any depth. i know this was argued during the finals too, but it really is true; look at the stats:

Malkin - 113 pts

Crosby - 103 pts

(And the next best player)

Staal - 49 pts

The wings have 8 players above the 50 pt mark and three are defenseman! I know 113 and 103 are very high (especially since our best player hit 97), but clearly they are only 2 man team. (A two man team that won, but lest we forget they were fighting a team who was half injured)

[55fan 5,133]

lol Wings fans get it thru ur stupid thick skulls. THE HAWKS ARE BETTER. Huet is better then osgood say all you want that huet is bad..huet is this. The man won 20+ games and showed what he could do with Chi and Wash. Lol at the dumbass who said the Det Chi Series wasnt close. It came down to two bad bounces and Chicago could have been up 2-1 in the series. #1 The Dan Cleary Breakaway goal, bad bounce on Seabrook. #2 The "heroic" Darren Helm goal. Terrible bounce from the s***ty stadium known as the Joe. How that goal was Heroic is beyond me it bounced right to him. Two All 4 of our lines can score...something Detwat cant say. Keith Seabrook > Lid Hjalmarrsson developing into a stud and Barker and Campbell WOW!

Edited August 28, 2009 by 55fan

[arnoldbuck 0]

^^^^^ HAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA :rotflmao:

[SouthernWingsFan 854]

lol Wings fans get it thru ur stupid thick skulls. THE HAWKS ARE BETTER. Huet is better then osgood say all you want that huet is bad..huet is this. The man won 20+ games and showed what he could do with Chi and Wash. Lol at the dumbass who said the Det Chi Series wasnt close. It came down to two bad bounces and Chicago could have been up 2-1 in the series. #1 The Dan Cleary Breakaway goal, bad bounce on Seabrook. #2 The "heroic" Darren Helm goal. Terrible bounce from the s***ty stadium known as the Joe. How that goal was Heroic is beyond me it bounced right to him. Two All 4 of our lines can score...something Detwat cant say. Keith Seabrook > Lid Hjalmarrsson developing into a stud and Barker and Campbell WOW!

You're a pretty funny lad.

But this is plenty funnier.

[Lovin Jiri Fischer 147]

lol Wings fans get it thru ur stupid thick skulls. THE HAWKS ARE BETTER. Huet is better then osgood say all you want that huet is bad..huet is this. The man won 20+ games and showed what he could do with Chi and Wash. Lol at the dumbass who said the Det Chi Series wasnt close. It came down to two bad bounces and Chicago could have been up 2-1 in the series. #1 The Dan Cleary Breakaway goal, bad bounce on Seabrook. #2 The "heroic" Darren Helm goal. Terrible bounce from the s***ty stadium known as the Joe. How that goal was Heroic is beyond me it bounced right to him. Two All 4 of our lines can score...something Detwat cant say. Keith Seabrook > Lid Hjalmarrsson developing into a stud and Barker and Campbell WOW!

Chicago: 3 Stanley Cups

Detroit: 11 Stanley Cups.

Notice how 11 is more than 3.

[Chunkylover 26]

Chicago: 3 Stanley Cups

Detroit: 11 Stanley Cups.

Notice how 11 is more than 3.

Yeah, but 1 + 1 = 2, and 1 x 1 = 1; whereas 3 = 3. Don't feel bad, as a Wings fan you just have a stupid thick skull and are thus incapable of comprehending the mathematical superiority of the Blackhawks, featuring Brian "WOW!" Campbell!