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#1 T-Ruff

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Posted 21 August 2010 - 04:38 PM

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NHL confirms this rule change: Regulation/OT wins (shootout Ws EXCLUDED) now will be first way to break ties in the standings.

i.e. Shootout wins will no longer count towards the total number of wins for the first tiebreaker criteria.

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Posted 21 August 2010 - 04:46 PM

i.e. Shootout wins will no longer count towards the total number of wins for the first tiebreaker criteria.

I approve


Good, SO wins are so weak.
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Posted 21 August 2010 - 04:55 PM

How about getting rid of the shootout, and going back to ties and no points for an OT loss?

Time to eliminate this Mickey Mouse system altogether. I'm tired of seeing everyone's record being distorted by shootout wins and losses.
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Posted 21 August 2010 - 05:01 PM

How about getting rid of the shootout, and going back to ties and no points for an OT loss?



exactly!

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Posted 21 August 2010 - 05:07 PM

exactly!


Agreed but if they won't eliminate the SO they should use a 3 point system.

Regulation Win = 3 points
Shootout or OT Win = 2 points
Shootout or OT Loss = 1 point
Regulation Loss = 0 points

As it is now a SO win is as good as a regulation win. That makes no sense whatsoever.
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Posted 21 August 2010 - 05:11 PM

I approve.

I HATE Shootouts.

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Posted 21 August 2010 - 05:13 PM

Agreed but if they won't eliminate the SO they should use a 3 point system.

Regulation Win = 3 points
Shootout or OT Win = 2 points
Shootout or OT Loss = 1 point
Regulation Loss = 0 points

As it is now a SO win is as good as a regulation win. That makes no sense whatsoever.


No, because then teams will start breaking all kinds of records for wins and it's not good for the game in my opinion to keep shootouts, and on top of that, hand out more and more points.

win in regulation or OT = 2 points
tie after regulation/OT = 1 point
loss in regulation or OT = 0 points
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Posted 21 August 2010 - 05:19 PM

Regulation win 3pts
Regulation Loss 0pts
Tie 1pts
OT win 2pts

Remove the SO completely, 5 minutes of 4on4 OT if neither team scores it's a TIE.. yeah good ol 90's TIE. NO WINNER! get it you yanks... :D

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Posted 21 August 2010 - 05:21 PM

I for one love the shootouts!!!! I agree the point system should be changed. Tie's were the worst part of hockey and I hope we never see that garbage again. But at the same time it wouldnt matter to me if they just did contiinuous 4 on 4 or even 3 on 3 untill there is a winner

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Posted 21 August 2010 - 05:22 PM

Regulation win 3pts
Regulation Loss 0pts
Tie 1pts
OT win 2pts

Remove the SO completely, 5 minutes of 4on4 OT if neither team scores it's a TIE.. yeah good ol 90's TIE. NO WINNER! get it you yanks... :D


In the 90's, there were never 3 points given out for a win. I don't remember anything being wrong with the old point system.

During the lockout, there was some paranoia about improving the game for those who never watch hockey (most Americans). That's where the shootout came from. The shootout is basically a camp movie, being offered up for entertainment value only.
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Posted 21 August 2010 - 05:26 PM

The system i wrote is what almost every other hockey league have, if you finish them off in 60mins you should get more points than you finish them off i OT, simple as that. The tie exists everywhere in every sport but it appears north american's only see winners and losers.

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Posted 21 August 2010 - 05:27 PM

Sooooo if you win in the shootout it doesn't go toward the season number of wins and if you lose it still counts toward the season number of losses? I don't understand. :huh:
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Posted 21 August 2010 - 05:40 PM

How about getting rid of the shootout, and going back to ties and no points for an OT loss?

Time to eliminate this Mickey Mouse system altogether. I'm tired of seeing everyone's record being distorted by shootout wins and losses.



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Posted 21 August 2010 - 05:42 PM

The system i wrote is what almost every other hockey league have, if you finish them off in 60mins you should get more points than you finish them off i OT, simple as that. The tie exists everywhere in every sport but it appears north american's only see winners and losers.


In what sport, besides association football, do ties/draws occur frequently? The majority of sports have some sort of overtime system or an extra game to decide the outcome.

Edited by Stolberg, 21 August 2010 - 05:43 PM.



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Posted 21 August 2010 - 05:43 PM

Sooooo if you win in the shootout it doesn't go toward the season number of wins and if you lose it still counts toward the season number of losses? I don't understand. :huh:

Shootout losses don't go into number of losses, they go into OTL and sometimes their own SOL. I imagine wins will be expanded to Wins (regulation and OTW) and shootout wins, so they can compare wins without shootout wins for the purpose of tiebreaking.

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Posted 21 August 2010 - 06:43 PM

Shootout losses don't go into number of losses, they go into OTL and sometimes their own SOL. I imagine wins will be expanded to Wins (regulation and OTW) and shootout wins, so they can compare wins without shootout wins for the purpose of tiebreaking.

OMG they're making it worse...just get rid of the dang shootout and make everybody happy.
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Posted 21 August 2010 - 07:26 PM

OMG they're making it worse...just get rid of the dang shootout and make everybody happy.

How is that worse lol? It means if two teams have the same amount of points, but one team has more of their wins in regulation or OT, they get put ahead of a team that has more of their wins in the shootout.

All they need to do is go to 3 on 3 OT after 4 on 4 (before a shootout) and it will be close to perfect.

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Posted 21 August 2010 - 09:03 PM

It sure seems to me that with the shoot outs in the game every one plays it safe and doesn't push the play in ot. There should be a lot more at stake if you don't score in ot you're not going to take home any point from the game. Make it an 8 min ot, winner gets 2 loser 0. Shoot outs are exciting, but it take away hOckey in it purest form. Just doesn't seem right.
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Posted 21 August 2010 - 09:57 PM

In what sport, besides association football, do ties/draws occur frequently? The majority of sports have some sort of overtime system or an extra game to decide the outcome.

In what sport can guys punch each other in the face until they're too tired to swing anymore, and their only punishment is to sit for five minutes?

I don't care what other sports do really. I love hockey. Shootouts are awful.

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Posted 22 August 2010 - 12:30 AM

A sports lawyering move. Nothing big...





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