Broken 16 381 Report post Posted December 15, 2010 I've been wondering if having Hudler on the team is affecting other players. I mean think about it. Here is Hudler who is making 3 million a year. He plays lousy and yet he still gets playing time and power play time. I think it's sending the wrong message to all the other Wings players. I know the Wings have one of the most (if not the most) solid locker rooms in the NHL. But it's human nature. If you see someone at your workplace screwing the dog and not contributing, it does have an effect on the other workers. It creates a bad and toxic atmosphere. I think the longer this goes the more it will affect the Wings as a team. The Wings did great in October and November but are off to an average start to December. Is Hudler's presence one of the reasons? I'm not saying if it is or isn't but I belive it's something to think about. FWIW, I don't see Hudler turning it around. I really don't. A quarter of the season has been played and he is not getting any better. The ones who believe he is showing improvement are likely seeing what they want to see. Holland is showing alot of patience with this guy. Holland is the best GM in the game but is he afraid to admit he made a mistake bringing him back? Trading him would in essence be admitting that but you have to cut bait at some point. The bigger mistake would be to keep playing him and getting nothing. Hudler needs to go. Whether it's for a draft pick, a minor league player or even waivers. He needs to go. Totally agree with the sentiment, but I would give him till the end of Jan or so to see if it's just a matter of conditioning. He's obviously done very little while he was away, I'd give him a little more time to catch up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jmad 18 Report post Posted December 15, 2010 Totally agree with the sentiment, but I would give him till the end of Jan or so to see if it's just a matter of conditioning. He's obviously done very little while he was away, I'd give him a little more time to catch up. I disagree that Hudler is bringing down the locker room because of his contract. Everybody in that locker room wants him to go on a huge goal scoring binge as much as he does. I think he's working but is off right now. Give him time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Broken 16 381 Report post Posted December 15, 2010 I disagree that Hudler is bringing down the locker room because of his contract. Everybody in that locker room wants him to go on a huge goal scoring binge as much as he does. I think he's working but is off right now. Give him time. Actually, I was responding more to the idea of trading him. I don't think he is bringing down the locker room either. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sputman 1,268 Report post Posted December 15, 2010 56pts in 46 games isn't too shabby, guys. if only we could get that hudler out of my iPhone NHL 2K11 game and onto the ice.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Broken 16 381 Report post Posted December 15, 2010 Just sucks cuz I seriously believed Hudler was gonna be a stud this year. He seemed to have a great attitude coming back and Babcock seemed to be happy to have him back... wft happened!?! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jmad 18 Report post Posted December 15, 2010 Luckily Cleary has picked up the production we expected out of Huds. But he's been slowing and there's no way he keeps up his pace. Now is the time for Huds to relax and start shooting. He had chances early in the season and was just unlucky, much like Bert early last year but he needs to get confidence back in his shot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Konnan511 1,736 Report post Posted December 15, 2010 We need Hudler and Franzen to be consistent threats. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hockeytown_Ryan 122 Report post Posted December 15, 2010 We need Hudler and Franzen to be consistent threats. ? Need? I am not sure about that. We are the "Best in the West" right now and Hudler has not done a damn thing to help that cause. like someone said he's managed to be a -8 on a 1st place team.... Franzen on the other hand... It would be nice for him to heat up and stay hot for a run like Clears did. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Konnan511 1,736 Report post Posted December 15, 2010 ? Need? I am not sure about that. We are the "Best in the West" right now and Hudler has not done a damn thing to help that cause. like someone said he's managed to be a -8 on a 1st place team.... Franzen on the other hand... It would be nice for him to heat up and stay hot for a run like Clears did. I think we need him to be, but I guess we can replace "need" with "would appreciate"? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LOredwing248 7 Report post Posted December 16, 2010 (edited) I think we need him to be, but I guess we can replace "need" with "would appreciate"? Your signature has a typo, you're not exactly a grade A Grammar Nazi, eh? Edited December 16, 2010 by LOredwing248 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hockeytown_Ryan 122 Report post Posted December 16, 2010 I think we need him to be, but I guess we can replace "need" with "would appreciate"? agreed! it would always be nice. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,803 Report post Posted December 16, 2010 For once this season, Hudler didn't look useless. He actually had a great game, and probably had more chances than anyone else on the team. Hopefully, it carries over and he can start finishing those chances. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Doc Holliday 1,888 Report post Posted December 16, 2010 For once this season, Hudler didn't look useless. He actually had a great game, and probably had more chances than anyone else on the team. Hopefully, it carries over and he can start finishing those chances. He's gotta get it up. And stop being so slow. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,803 Report post Posted December 16, 2010 He's gotta get it up. And stop being so slow. From what I've heard, Hudler has never had a problem getting it up? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
titanium2 867 Report post Posted December 16, 2010 From what I've heard, Hudler has never had a problem getting it up? Yes he has. That's why he hired those hookers. Remember? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest scottj Report post Posted December 16, 2010 Either way he was faaar from invisible tonight If he keeps it up he'll probably get goin Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Doc Holliday 1,888 Report post Posted December 16, 2010 Yes he has. That's why he hired those hookers. Remember? Beat me to it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Crymson Report post Posted December 16, 2010 Luckily Cleary has picked up the production we expected out of Huds. But he's been slowing and there's no way he keeps up his pace. Now is the time for Huds to relax and start shooting. He had chances early in the season and was just unlucky, much like Bert early last year but he needs to get confidence back in his shot. Cleary would score FAR more goals were he on a line with Datsyuk and Zetterberg. Babcock rotates Cleary so that each line will have a scoring threat. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
egroen 384 Report post Posted December 16, 2010 Last two games he has been making a difference. Keep it up, and he'll get the points. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Echolalia 2,961 Report post Posted December 16, 2010 Last two games he has been making a difference. Keep it up, and he'll get the points. Both games I've noticed him making chances and working for it. I'd say the points should start coming if he keeps it up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aussie_Wing 354 Report post Posted December 16, 2010 Looked very, very good tonight. The points will come soon, and will flow when he gets his first. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cjm502 165 Report post Posted December 16, 2010 I was at the game and along with his penalty I saw Huds get knocked on his ass a few times and make several bad passes. Im not sure what they showed on tv but he looked horrible to me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Broken 16 381 Report post Posted December 16, 2010 If you starve someone for 10 days and then finally give them a Ritz cracker, it will be the best thing they ever ate. Hudler wasn't that good tonight. 3 Casey, ManLuv4Clears and roboturner reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
clutchngrab 12 Report post Posted December 16, 2010 (edited) Jiri's weak spot is skating and always has been. During his first shift in Detroit he worked really hard to improve his skating and defensive abilities such that Babcock would give him some ice and it was nice to see him improve over the course of a few years. The old Jiri had some grit and went to the net despite his size. I became a Hudler fan because of his work ethic, pluckiness and puck abilities - all with limited ice time. Now, today it seems that his skating has taken a step back, he's a perimeter player and his confidence is pretty much shot. It's pretty tough to make a career in the NHL with good hands, vision, shot, but no size and skating ability. Maybe he will turn it around, but I think he's cooked ala Jason Williams. Edited December 16, 2010 by clutchngrab Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Konnan511 1,736 Report post Posted December 16, 2010 Your signature has a typo, you're not exactly a grade A Grammar Nazi, eh? Guess I'm lost, i don't see any. Is Facebook two words? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites