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I don't see any controversy. The puck wasn't under control by the goaltender, and then it found it's way into the back of the net. That's a goal any day of the week.

What the hell do you people want? Want him to just skate to the bench and never show emotion? The expectations you put on this kid are ridiculous, just sit back and enjoy his skill, he's the greatest player in the generation and I'm at a loss for words why people are losing out on great entertainment because they are jealous we don't have Crosby on our team.

He was telling the ref to review the play, do you think he was telling the ref "HEY IM SIDNEY CROSBY AWARD ME A GOAL AT ONCE" come on now, the ref just said to him something along the lines of "we'll look at it calm down", like any other ref would if the same situation happened to any other team.

:rolleyes:

anyway, while I agree he did the right thing pointing out the puck crossing the line, he is NOT the greatest player in the generation. (unless you're talking about his age) Pav and Z own him everytime they play the Pens. Until Crosby becomes the complete player that they are, I will take Pav and Z's 90 points and Selke Award winning numbers everyday, every week, every month of the year over Cy Young Crosby... I will give him his props for his offensive skill, but he is BY FAR NOT the greatest player... You are delusional.

That being said, this is just another example of rules being changed (or made up) to benefit the teams the league wants to win. There have been MANY MANY times the refs have blown whistles AFTER the puck has gone in because of intent to blow, this went in a good second AFTER the whistle had blown only for Toronto to rule it was a goal despite the ref blowing the whistle. This wasn't even intent to blow...

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I'll tell you guys something. The NHL needs an NFL style review system where the REF can watch the play and make a decision, not some guys up in Toronto. Both the May goal and Pens goal (barring any conspiracy) would have been called correctly. Keep in mind, the Refs on the ice can't visualize the play very well a minute or two after it happens, they have to take their recollection, combine it with what some guy on the phone is saying, and then try to determine stuff like when did I intend to blow the whistle. Something is bound to be lost in translation and all this theoretically could be fixed if the ref could watch the play with headphones for sound.

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When I saw this on NHL network, I got so mad. For consistency sake, that's no goal. It's continually been called a no goal. Whistle blew before the puck crossed the line. No goal. The problem is consistency and NHL don't belong in the same sentence.

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When I saw this on NHL network, I got so mad. For consistency sake, that's no goal. It's continually been called a no goal. Whistle blew before the puck crossed the line. No goal. The problem is consistency and NHL don't belong in the same sentence.

You know NHL rules do not apply when the Penguins, especially Cindy, are involved. Shame one you. :ph34r:

This will get worse and worse until the NHL = NBA. Too bad it's so hard to find good lacrosse or rugby matches televised in the U.S.

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Too bad it's so hard to find good lacrosse or rugby matches televised in the U.S.

Check out ESPN3.com (it's on Xbox360 now, too) during the college lax and MLL seasons, they broadcast almost every major game on there, and they broadcast the NCAA DI tournament on ESPN/ESPN2.

Rugby is on there too, IIRC.

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I don't see any controversy. The puck wasn't under control by the goaltender, and then it found it's way into the back of the net. That's a goal any day of the week.

the whistle blows the play is dead no matter where the puck is, clearly the puck was under the goalie when the whistle blew so it should have been no goal

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I don't see any controversy. The puck wasn't under control by the goaltender, and then it found it's way into the back of the net. That's a goal any day of the week.

What the hell do you people want? Want him to just skate to the bench and never show emotion? The expectations you put on this kid are ridiculous, just sit back and enjoy his skill, he's the greatest player in the generation and I'm at a loss for words why people are losing out on great entertainment because they are jealous we don't have Crosby on our team.

He was telling the ref to review the play, do you think he was telling the ref "HEY IM SIDNEY CROSBY AWARD ME A GOAL AT ONCE" come on now, the ref just said to him something along the lines of "we'll look at it calm down", like any other ref would if the same situation happened to any other team.

This is one of the most embarrassing posts I've ever seen on this board, and I've been here 2 1/2 years. I've seen trolls whose only purpose here is to post "LOL RED WINGS SUX!!!! DEAD THINGS!! LOLOLOLOL!!!11" spout less embarrassing things than that post.

We get it. You're attached to Crosby's nuts. You think the sun shines out of his ass, his s*** smells like roses and when he smiles, you say "But soft, what light through yonder window breaks? It is Crosby, and he is the sun." I'm convinced he could go on a tri-state murdering spree, kill 34 people including infants, war widows and puppies and you'd still say that Wings fans were jealous we didn't have a puppy-murderer on our team who can kill puppies like he can.

Just please.

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I don't see any controversy. The puck wasn't under control by the goaltender, and then it found it's way into the back of the net. That's a goal any day of the week.

What the hell do you people want? Want him to just skate to the bench and never show emotion? The expectations you put on this kid are ridiculous, just sit back and enjoy his skill, he's the greatest player in the generation and I'm at a loss for words why people are losing out on great entertainment because they are jealous we don't have Crosby on our team.

He was telling the ref to review the play, do you think he was telling the ref "HEY IM SIDNEY CROSBY AWARD ME A GOAL AT ONCE" come on now, the ref just said to him something along the lines of "we'll look at it calm down", like any other ref would if the same situation happened to any other team.

How are you not Sidney Crosby's public relations director? Seriously.

Firstly, there is no grey area in this instance with the Intent to Blow the Whistle rule, which I do hate by the way. However, the referee blew the whistle when he lost sight of the puck and before the puck crossed the line. That should not have been ruled a goal, no questions asked. I don't like the intent to blow the whistle rule and I hate not stopping play unless the puck is completely covered or you are fully sure, but what the hell is the ref supposed to do there, he has to go by his best judgment.

Secondly, you've probably been told this a plethora of times and either do not get it, or you do get it and you purposefully ignore what people tell you and just contiunally enjoy getting slammed on. This is a Red Wings forum. They played the Penguins in the Stanley Cup Finals two years ago in recent past. The majority in here do not like the Penguins, if not everybody in here doesn't like them. Plenty don't like their captain all that much either. Not because he's one of the best players in the game at present, but largely because of his other attributes/lack thereof. He was voted the whiniest player in the league by NHL players, he's probably as equally hated in the obsessive fashion by fans across the league as much as he is liked. That does not equal being jealous of him whatsoever. That just means people get that he is a great talent, but dispise him because he acts like a whiney punk way too much for our liking. Got it? Get it through your head.

If you want to like Crosby, cool, I'm not stopping you and I don't have a problem with it. Continually acting surprised though at the reactions you get when you are involved in conversations about him is incredibly naive and stupid, and don't pretend like you don't notice. See above why.

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I don't see any controversy. The puck wasn't under control by the goaltender, and then it found it's way into the back of the net. That's a goal any day of the week.

What the hell do you people want? Want him to just skate to the bench and never show emotion? The expectations you put on this kid are ridiculous, just sit back and enjoy his skill, he's the greatest player in the generation and I'm at a loss for words why people are losing out on great entertainment because they are jealous we don't have Crosby on our team.

He was telling the ref to review the play, do you think he was telling the ref "HEY IM SIDNEY CROSBY AWARD ME A GOAL AT ONCE" come on now, the ref just said to him something along the lines of "we'll look at it calm down", like any other ref would if the same situation happened to any other team.

Should not of been a goal

Ref blew the whistle before it went in the net. No goal. No question.

Agreed

There should be no question on this, whatsoever. The whistle blew before the puck crossed the line. No goal. Simple as that.

Once again, the Pittsburgh bias in this league rears its ugly head.

Once again, totally agree

not to beat a dead horse buttttt.....

So true

Somewhere, Brad May is throwing his remote.

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This is one of the most embarrassing posts I've ever seen on this board, and I've been here 2 1/2 years. I've seen trolls whose only purpose here is to post "LOL RED WINGS SUX!!!! DEAD THINGS!! LOLOLOLOL!!!11" spout less embarrassing things than that post.

We get it. You're attached to Crosby's nuts. You think the sun shines out of his ass, his s*** smells like roses and when he smiles, you say "But soft, what light through yonder window breaks? It is Crosby, and he is the sun." I'm convinced he could go on a tri-state murdering spree, kill 34 people including infants, war widows and puppies and you'd still say that Wings fans were jealous we didn't have a puppy-murderer on our team who can kill puppies like he can.

Just please.

Chopped full of sarcasm and truth

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Wasn't there an instance of something similar to that happening not too long ago?

Very similar. FSN Pittsburgh withheld a camera angle in a game against, I believe, Philly, that would have shown conclusively that Philly had scored a goal. Instead, the goal was taken back and the Penguins went on to win the game. Neither FSN Pittsburgh, nor the Penguins received any disciplinary action.

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This isn't an example of Pens bias like some would like to believe.

It's yet another example of bad officiating and inconsistent interpretation of the rule book.

What would you call six men on the ice for half a minute that mysteriously went unnoticed by four on ice officials?

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This isn't an example of Pens bias like some would like to believe.

It's yet another example of bad officiating and inconsistent interpretation of the rule book.

It can't be just that. This is a case of black letter law being ignored. It's not like determining a kicking motion.

Whistle blows, play is dead. Period.

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I don't see any controversy. The puck wasn't under control by the goaltender, and then it found it's way into the back of the net. That's a goal any day of the week.

I see what your getting at, despite my loathing of Pittsburgh I think that should have been a goal, but under the current rules there is no way in hell that was a goal. If the whistle blows the play is dead, it doesn't matter if the goalie had control or not. Now do I think that needs to be reviewed, hell yes, but until then everyone has to play by the rules the way they are written and that ref clearly didn't. Not saying he was biased towards s***sburgh and not saying he wasn't, but he clearly didn't follow the rules as they are written and should at least be fired for it.

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What would you call six men on the ice for half a minute that mysteriously went unnoticed by four on ice officials?

Really bad officiating. Maybe I'm just being naive but I really can't get behind any pens based conspiracy theories. If one day information leading to actual evidence is discovered, then I will happily eat my words. I couldn't sit down and watch 82+ games a year of a sport if I actually believed the balance was somehow tipped in favour of a particular team. It just wouldn't make sense for the NHL to favour the pens over much bigger markets anyway.

There was even talk about Phoenix being the new "golden team" when we played them last year. Quickly went away when they lost though, funny that. It's just a fans natural reaction to find any reason for hating their rivals.

It can't be just that. This is a case of black letter law being ignored. It's not like determining a kicking motion.

Whistle blows, play is dead. Period.

The only thing I can think of (besides incompetent officiating) is that FSN pittsburgh really didn't include any audio with the replays they provided and the war room thought they were simply trying to determine if the puck crossed the line. Pretty bad communication if that was the case, but FSN pittsburgh did get caught doing something shady once.

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What would you call six men on the ice for half a minute that mysteriously went unnoticed by four on ice officials?

Actually, they did notice it, they just told one of the pens to get off the ice rather than call a penalty.... :ph34r:

I don't really know what more can be said, I'm kinda at a loss for words other than to say its becoming harder and harder for people to say the Pens aren't favoured by the NHL.

What was interesting was the Ref gave no explanation whatsoever, simply "its a goal". Clearly he was embaressed/didn't agree/didn't understand why that was a goal.

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