cusimano_brothers 1,655 Report post Posted November 24, 2010 Maybe they were reminiscing about their performance in the game on 24/02/2010; I know it made me laugh. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Broken 16 381 Report post Posted November 24, 2010 (edited) lol... I started reading this thread but stopped I just don't care about this enough to finish reading it... lapse in judgement by Ovechkin? ya. Would I hold this against anybody else in the league captain or not? no. let it go people. It's funny how everybody here is forgetting that people make dumb mistakes all the time, it's part of being human. Just a lapse in judgement, I'd like to see a picture of where OV and Kovalchuk were compared to the media. I doubt Kovie was in the Caps locker room where most press conferences seem to be conducted... This really isn't debatable. This isn't a case of the media blowing things out of proportion and creating things out of nothing. Ovie's head coach was displeased with his conduct and made it known. The only perception that matters here is the head coach's... and he was pissed. Seriously, you guys are making excuses for Ovie like he's your son in pee wee. EDIT: If he was close enough to glare at him, then Ovie should have been somewhere else. Seriously... what kind of an idiot must you be to not be aware of your surroundings when you are grabassing? I don't know how many square feet that arena is, but I'm pretty sure Ovie could have found a few square feet that weren't in his coaches line of sight if he felt like pinching Kovie's butt. Edited November 24, 2010 by Broken 16 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Esquire 324 Report post Posted November 24, 2010 Like I said, I can understand the coach being pissed and ripping into him privately, but it's a bit much for the media to blow it up like they have. Right with ya on that. It's just easier for them when OV hands it to them on a platter like that. I'm not judging the guy solely on this lapse but this is supposed to be the season the Caps 'play with a chip on their shoulder' and he can't be having too many of these lapses before the media really take hold and run with it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Broken 16 381 Report post Posted November 24, 2010 (edited) Like I said, I can understand the coach being pissed and ripping into him privately, but it's a bit much for the media to blow it up like they have. Lol... you can't blame the media when the head coach makes his displeasure blatantly obvious. Blame the coach if you want to blame anybody. He knew exactly what he was doing and where he was when he was doing it. He wanted the media to see his displeasure, obviously. Pretty sure he's dealt with the media a few times before. Edited November 24, 2010 by Broken 16 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest scottj Report post Posted November 24, 2010 This really isn't debatable. This isn't a case of the media blowing things out of proportion and creating things out of nothing. You're right. This is a case of this forum blowing things out of proportion and creating things out of very minor occurrences. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Broken 16 381 Report post Posted November 24, 2010 (edited) You're right. Thank you. I knew you'd see things my way. (See... I can selectively edit too) Edited November 24, 2010 by Broken 16 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DatsyukianDekes 2,428 Report post Posted November 24, 2010 This really isn't debatable. This isn't a case of the media blowing things out of proportion and creating things out of nothing. Ovie's head coach was displeased with his conduct and made it known. The only perception that matters here is the head coach's... and he was pissed. Seriously, you guys are making excuses for Ovie like he's your son in pee wee. EDIT: If he was close enough to glare at him, then Ovie should have been somewhere else. Seriously... what kind of an idiot must you be to not be aware of your surroundings when you are grabassing? I don't know how many square feet that arena is, but I'm pretty sure Ovie could have found a few square feet that weren't in his coaches line of sight if he felt like pinching Kovie's butt. do you have a draft of what the convo was ? do you know if Ovi and Koval just happened to pass eachother at that time and sometihng was said ? You sound like you work for the media or something or have something against Ovi, who cares if hes talking and laughing no need to get all upset because your not for it. Like someone said earlier, if a Detroit player was to do it, the excuse would be reversed. Without disclosed details there is really no reason to get all upset because he laughed, pretty pathetic. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Broken 16 381 Report post Posted November 24, 2010 do you have a draft of what the convo was ? do you know if Ovi and Koval just happened to pass eachother at that time and sometihng was said ? You sound like you work for the media or something or have something against Ovi, who cares if hes talking and laughing no need to get all upset because your not for it. Like someone said earlier, if a Detroit player was to do it, the excuse would be reversed. Without disclosed details there is really no reason to get all upset because he laughed, pretty pathetic. Here... since you are obviously too lazy to read the article: A video of Boudreau's press briefing catches the coach glaring Ovechkin's way a couple of times with a displeased look on his face. When asked if it bothered him that two of his top players were happily fraternizing with a player from the opposing team after such a big loss, Boudreau paused before saying "I'll reserve my thoughts on that, if you don't mind." As if I personally care what Ovie and Kovie were talking about. And like it matters. Based on the above clipping, Boudreau made his disgust totally obvious for all to see. Not just once... but a couple times. The content of Ovie and Kovie's conversation is completely irrelevant. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rick Zombos Ghost 82 Report post Posted November 24, 2010 I'm gonna have to give big LOL at you people blaming the media for this. If a coach and another player is making eyes at one of the members of a team (let alone one of the games biggest players) while said coach is addressing the media it is their JOB to report it. I think you're making the mistake of blurring the media/reporters with bloggers. This isnt the first time he's acted in a questionable manner. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Konnan511 1,736 Report post Posted November 24, 2010 If i only got to see one of my best friends a handful times a year a million miles away from my home and he made a great "that's what she said" joke, I wouldn't be able to contain myself. I blame Kovy for this, he could have waited til' they were further away from the podium to crack a yo' momma joke. Those two have no class and are disgrace. How dare they try and find humor, do they not know we are in a recession and that we haven't found Bin laden yet? THINK OF THE CHILDREN!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DatsyukianDekes 2,428 Report post Posted November 24, 2010 Here... since you are obviously too lazy to read the article: As if I personally care what Ovie and Kovie were talking about. And like it matters. Based on the above clipping, Boudreau made his disgust totally obvious for all to see. Not just once... but a couple times. The content of Ovie and Kovie's conversation is completely irrelevant. I read the article, Where does it say Ovi acknowledged that he was 'glaring' at him. He made his 'disgust' obvious for the media, but not for Ovi. Its not irrelevant what they were talking about, I could understand if they were laughing at the performance of the team or themselves but anything aside for that who the hell cares. The only people that should care about this are the fans in Washington. At the end of the day they will choose Ovi over Boudreau so nothing changes for them if hes laughing, seems to me like Boudreau diverting attention to the wrong things to get the attention off him for the loses and the past 2 years of failure. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest scottj Report post Posted November 24, 2010 Thank you. I knew you'd see things my way. (See... I can selectively edit too) That's all that I was getting at so whether or not the coach was giving him s*** was irrelevant... I can see why the coach would be pissed, I just don't understand why everybody else would be too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
F2B&G 15 Report post Posted November 24, 2010 Probably not too smart of them to do that so close to the cameras, but at the same time it's blown way out of proportion. Are we supposed to pretend that players don't have some friends on opposing teams? I do think it's a mistake to let Ovechkin wear the 'C' though. He's a big talent, but he's not a 'team first' guy. The Caps need a captain who knows what it takes to go deep in the playoffs, and can demonstrate that sort of work ethic to the rest of the team. I don't think Ovechkin is really interested in that, at least not at this point in his career - he just wants individual glory and female attention. While they're at it, Boudreau is definitely not the answer behind the bench either. He has no idea how to coach a playoff-caliber defense. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Broken 16 381 Report post Posted November 24, 2010 That's all that I was getting at so whether or not the coach was giving him s*** was irrelevant... I can see why the coach would be pissed, I just don't understand why everybody else would be too. I don't think anyone is pissed. At least not on this forum. But there is obviously a rift between Ovie and his coach. That seems pretty newsworthy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pskov Wings Fan 71 Report post Posted November 24, 2010 Because they're ultimately entertainers, and rely on the media to help promote the game and themselves. Seeming like you don't care that your team just got blown out again might make Caps fans less crazy about shelling out their money to support the team. Both Ovechkin and Kovalchuk have their carriers made financially. It probably makes media need them more than the other way abound. I've seen parts of this game. It did look like Ovechkin cared about the outcome during the game. Ovechkin and friends are being rude having rather loud conversation while Capitals coach is doing press conference nearby. They should have known better. So they are guilty of bad manners. But it seems like laughing is being singled out as grossly inappropriate behavior after a loss. If Ovechkin was swearing revenge next time the teams meet would it have changed anything? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
roboturner 562 Report post Posted November 24, 2010 My link Much Ado About NothingI was at the game last night. I witnessed first hand all of this activity mentioned in the article. I also saw Alex Ovechkin and Alex Semin after the game in the locker room. They behaved in the right manner and were respectful to the process of losing a game on the road by the score of 5 to 0. They and all of their teammates were unhappy and quite somber. They did have a quick chat with a player from the Devils in the outside hallway and at some point someone made a comment which elicited a guffaw from a player. It was too hard to figure out who made the comment and who laughed out loud. The biggest issue was the location of this meeting which was too close to the media interview also in the hallway. There was no disrespect intended in any of the discussions and meeting, I am quite sure of that. It is a shame that this is being made into something that it wasn’t meant to be because honestly these meetings happen literally after every game outside the Capitals locker room in the little hallway that leads to the visiting locker room at Verizon Center - win or lose. Let us nip this one in the bud. Many of our players didn’t play well last night. We can take issue with team performance. This impromptu meeting should have been held somewhere else but it was not a sign of disrespect in any manner and I was not offended. I didn’t like the way we played but I saw the players acting in the right way in the locker room after the game. -Ted Leonsis, Owner of the Washington Capitals writing about the meeting of Ovechkin, Semin and Kovalchuk after last night’s game Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
titanium2 867 Report post Posted November 24, 2010 -Ted Leonsis, Owner of the Washington Capitals writing about the meeting of Ovechkin, Semin and Kovalchuk after last night’s game /end thread... Right? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hiei 192 Report post Posted November 24, 2010 WRONG! We can't end a thread this early! Quick! Someone make up something about Cindy Crosby! or or or this, Start another Goalie Doubt thread! That'll f**k this thread up FOR SURE! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pockets 9 Report post Posted November 24, 2010 (edited) Media will try to make anything news worthy. I do see why bruce would be upset though, they just got blown out by the devils. Another thing to think of is that Ovie is technically fraternizing(sp?) with the enemy. Not a big deal but Ovie and Kovy should now how the media will react and should be careful of the things they do around the media horde. Edit spelling Edited November 24, 2010 by pockets Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haroldsnepsts 4,826 Report post Posted November 24, 2010 Imagine the Wings lose three in a row, Lidstrom isn't performing as well as the team would like. After getting shelled 5-0 to Edmonton, Babcock is holding a post game press conference and is distracted by Lidstrom laughing and joking around with one of the Oiler's players. Not the end of the world, but not very smart by the captain. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VM1138 1,921 Report post Posted November 24, 2010 Imagine the Wings lose three in a row, Lidstrom isn't performing as well as the team would like. After getting shelled 5-0 to Edmonton, Babcock is holding a post game press conference and is distracted by Lidstrom laughing and joking around with one of the Oiler's players. Not the end of the world, but not very smart by the captain. "Joking around" is a little different than laughing at someone who said something unexpectedly funny. Maybe the media shouldn't invade the athlete's space and should hold a conference elsewhere? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Shoreline Report post Posted November 24, 2010 Much ado about nothing is right. These people are humans, and their job is on the ice. While I'm sure there will be some that disagree, I only watch the NHL to see the on-ice product. I do care about things that directly impact it. Do these jokes made it seem like Ovechkin was helping fix the game so the Devils would win? If so, I'm interested. If not, who gives a s***? They're only enemies on the ice. Whatever their relationship is once the game goes Final, is inconsequential. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Konnan511 1,736 Report post Posted November 24, 2010 The man who owns the team is ok with it, then I am too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ShanahanMan 473 Report post Posted November 24, 2010 Respect for Ovechkin: -1 Seriously, there is absolutely NO excuse for this. The guy isn't getting paid 9.5 mil a year to laugh it up with the opposing team right after a loss, ESPECIALLY when your team is on a losing streak and you aren't putting up the numbers you should. Wait until the offseason to shoot the s*** with opposing players. And to do this at the press conference no less? He's there on the clock as far as I'm concerned and he's clearly showing a lack of respect for his team by pulling this s***. Inexcusable. If I was Boudreau, I'd bench him the next game. If I sound pissed it's cause I am. As much as I dig Ovi's style and talent, I can't stand when players make a mockery of the sport. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
roboturner 562 Report post Posted November 24, 2010 (edited) Respect for Ovechkin: -1 Seriously, there is absolutely NO excuse for this. The guy isn't getting paid 9.5 mil a year to laugh it up with the opposing team right after a loss, ESPECIALLY when your team is on a losing streak and you aren't putting up the numbers you should. Wait until the offseason to shoot the s*** with opposing players. And to do this at the press conference no less? He's there on the clock as far as I'm concerned and he's clearly showing a lack of respect for his team by pulling this s***. Inexcusable. If I was Boudreau, I'd bench him the next game. If I sound pissed it's cause I am. As much as I dig Ovi's style and talent, I can't stand when players make a mockery of the sport. Chill out man! Would you have a problem if this was Lidstrom and Lilja shootin the s*** in the hallway after a game? Yeah its unfortunate that it happened during the coach's press conference, but to act like the players aren't allowed to be friends with guys on other teams is ridiculous. Edited November 24, 2010 by roboturner Share this post Link to post Share on other sites