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#1 Konnan511

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Posted 13 December 2010 - 03:20 PM

This was a great read. Some really awesome quotes by the coach and a few Swedes. It's great to see NHL.com at one point in th article, saying when comparing the two players, it's a wash at who is better. We all Datsyuk is the best all-around player in the world and Crosby is a disgustingly great generational talent, but it's awesome to see Datsyuk getting quite the recognizing around the league.
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"He's one of the most skilled players in the League, but his work ethic is second to none," Red Wings captain Nicklas Lidstrom told NHL.com. "Look at the takeaways he gets -- a lot of them are from backchecking, coming back, stripping guys of the puck. That's just hard work. With all the talent he's got he's working hard and it's paying off for him, too."

It's paying off this season in bigger numbers, but Babcock is quick to point out that Datsyuk's 70 points last season were just as valuable to the Red Wings as his 36 points have been so far this season and his 97 points were in 2008-09.

When he puts them into context, Babcock can surmise that Datsyuk would have been close to a 100-point player last season if he simply had the support he has this season, thanks mostly to his chemistry with Henrik Zetterberg and Tomas Holmstrom.

"Pavel didn't have the same support last year because we didn't have the players to support anybody," Babcock said. "We chased and chipped it for 60-some games. This year we've been healthy. Our back end is way better because we're healthy. We have way more depth. We score way more. Last year we were way down in scoring compared to our normal."


Edited by Konnan511, 13 December 2010 - 03:22 PM.

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Posted 13 December 2010 - 03:28 PM

The Wings themselves can't even talk about Pav without mentioning what's his name. It's like a virus.

EDIT: And yeah I know he's a fricking tear right now and bla bla bla.

Edited by titanium2, 13 December 2010 - 03:30 PM.


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Posted 13 December 2010 - 03:32 PM

That's because nowadays if you say "Player X is the greatest two way player in the league" millions of people are going to assume that you meant "Player X is the greatest two way player in the league... [besides for Crosby]"

Tough s*** but that's how it goes...

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Posted 13 December 2010 - 03:33 PM

The Wings themselves can't even talk about Pav without mentioning what's his name. It's like a virus.

EDIT: And yeah I know he's a fricking tear right now and bla bla bla.

Sadly only causes the obsession to increase when he is doing well. It will be the usual, "But he is the only one scoring for them!" or "He smells like s***!"


Unfortunately we give the Blackhawks "fans" all that crap about stalking us....what exactly are we doing to what's his name?


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Posted 13 December 2010 - 03:36 PM

More Dats Crosby comparisons:

http://www.cbc.ca/sp...ts.html?ref=rss

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Posted 13 December 2010 - 03:38 PM

How dare him...that's Brooks Orpik's #!!!!
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Posted 13 December 2010 - 03:42 PM

More Dats Crosby comparisons:

http://www.cbc.ca/sp...ts.html?ref=rss


lol I wish defensive value was able to be calculated so we could actually see the difference between Crosby and Datsyuk... Crosby does have more offense but it seems like Datsyuk could make up for it with defense

I love how Zata and Pavs are so good defensively and you don't have to worry about what they're going to do, instead you can watch and take notes

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Posted 13 December 2010 - 03:43 PM

Well that didn't take long. The point of this thread was to show it's nice to see Datsyuk and Crosby being compared, and a very respectable writer, saying it's a wash. That's a huge compliment to both.
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Posted 13 December 2010 - 03:43 PM

crosby is better defensively than datsyuk



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Posted 13 December 2010 - 03:58 PM

More Dats Crosby comparisons:

http://www.cbc.ca/sp...ts.html?ref=rss

im curious to see lebrun's piece on lids

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Posted 13 December 2010 - 06:41 PM

There is a huge difference between Pasha and that other little douchebag. You'll not see Pasha being a media hog, and he puts team first. During the interview after the game the other night, he said, "We won the game, that's more important." You sure as hell won't hear that other media hog say something like that. While every sports writer in humanity is kissing up to Crosby's little ass, Pasha goes out and quietly does his job, night after night. And we who really know the way it is appreciate him for it.
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Posted 13 December 2010 - 07:06 PM

There is a huge difference between Pasha and that other little douchebag. You'll not see Pasha being a media hog, and he puts team first. During the interview after the game the other night, he said, "We won the game, that's more important." You sure as hell won't hear that other media hog say something like that. While every sports writer in humanity is kissing up to Crosby's little ass, Pasha goes out and quietly does his job, night after night. And we who really know the way it is appreciate him for it.

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Posted 13 December 2010 - 07:12 PM

crosby is better defensively than datsyuk


Damn, dude...I told you not to smoke all that crack at once.

Now look what you've done to yourself.

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Posted 13 December 2010 - 07:14 PM

If you gave Datsyuk Crosby's ice time, he would have 46 points this year - only 5 back of Crosby.

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Posted 13 December 2010 - 07:21 PM

If you gave Datsyuk Crosby's ice time, he would have 46 points this year - only 5 back of Crosby.

Datsyuk couldn't produce on his own last year like Crosby is doing this year. Maybe Datsyuk could produce more with more ice time but he cannot produce by himself like Crosby can and I think people over look that.

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Posted 13 December 2010 - 07:32 PM

The thing nobody is talking about is spreading the wealth on a team. Crosby is putting up numbers because he's the only one who can score for now on his team.

The Wings, as in 2002, are so stacked nobody HAS to carry the team and many player's numbers are probably a bit lower than they should be.

I also wish NHL.com would have gone back a little further than 2 seasons. They sort of make Datsyuk seem like an overnight sensation. He had two 97 point seasons and in the 80s before that. He's a consistent threat, and has been the best all around player in the world for a few years now.

Crosby's ice time necessarily has to be huge. Except for last season, the Wings have been able to balance the centers and such pretty consistently.
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Posted 13 December 2010 - 07:32 PM

I like it when the article writer cleans up Datsyuk's gibberish. I can't even imagine him actually speaking like that.
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Posted 13 December 2010 - 07:52 PM

crosby is better defensively than datsyuk

Hudler has them both beaten.

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Posted 13 December 2010 - 10:14 PM

If you gave Datsyuk Crosby's ice time, he would have 46 points this year - only 5 back of Crosby.

I only got 43 points for 8 back, but still, good point.
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Posted 13 December 2010 - 10:42 PM

Datstuk gives me boners.

And I'm 89.1% straight!

He's that damn good.





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