Broken 16 381 Report post Posted January 5, 2011 Ah. You mean THE "OSGOOD" who was the goalie for the Detroit Red Wings' Stanley Cup win that year? Why must staunch Osgood supporters stir the pot? Can you not help it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chrisdetroit 189 Report post Posted January 5, 2011 instead of voting for our guys to go to the game why don't we try and keep them out to rest up? let these other fan's vote for crosby and all the other obvious choices every year i say we keep our boys out and let them use the rest. Exactly. I wish none of our guys would go. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Broken 16 381 Report post Posted January 5, 2011 Exactly. I wish none of our guys would go. This. ASG means zero to me. I used to enjoy the skills comp. when I was a kid, but that was a long time ago. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sleepwalker 512 Report post Posted January 5, 2011 I said it before, I'll say it again. Why on earth would people here be upset Wings aren't getting voted in? Seriously? Good. It'd be better if no Wings were in it at all. Its a pointless game, and the last thing we need is to risk a possible injury, in of all things, the all star game. Let the Pens fans vote the whole team in. The less Wings in the game, the less chance we have of a totally unessessary injury. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
puckloo39 5,686 Report post Posted January 5, 2011 the best players and the ones who ought to be included in the category of All Star haven't been included in this mess for many years. If 90% of the television audience knew anything about hockey, they would realize what a sham the whole event is. It's marketing and hype, and that's all it is now. Won't be watching, and don't care who's there, honestly. If none of the Wings are included, I am fine with it. Bettman is more skilled at alienating true hockey fans than he knows. This is not the way to build interest in the league, not at all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
titanium2 867 Report post Posted January 5, 2011 I hope they all rest no matter what. Only this time "get away with it" unlike 2009. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Barrie 900 Report post Posted January 5, 2011 Come to think of it, I can't recall the last time I actually watched the NHL ASG. I can't remember the last time I watched baseball's ASG either, though I did watch the pre-game ceremony in 2008. I think the last time I watched the NHL ASG was 2000. MLB may have been 2003. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
puffy 97 Report post Posted January 5, 2011 (edited) The All Star game is a joke. Does anyone honestly look forward to this? I'd rather watch the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles episode I taped in 1993. Edited January 5, 2011 by puffy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VM1138 1,921 Report post Posted January 5, 2011 Perfect ASG format: Have the players, GMs, Coaches, sports writers etc. vote for players with the stipulation that they can't be on their team. Release the list of All-Stars. Don't hold a game. 1 GoWings1905 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xtrememachine1 795 Report post Posted January 5, 2011 I love reading articles and listening to people that act like this isn't fixed. Letang has more votes than Ovechkin and Datsyuk combined. Yeah, okay, a write-in defenseman has more votes than the guys that's won 5 MVP awards in the last 3 years and the best overall player in the game. That seems realistic. The thing is, I actually used to enjoy the All Star game. But over the last few years, its like a competition to see what teams fans can hack the online balloting page and get their favorites voted in. They need to do away with fan voting or go with a more secure voting page or something. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wing Across The Pond 196 Report post Posted January 5, 2011 This. ASG means zero to me. I used to enjoy the skills comp. when I was a kid, but that was a long time ago. Seems to be similar sentiments all throughout, but this is really what it's about. ASG is a way of getting young fans who haven't chosen a 'favourite sport' yet, into hockey over the others. No surprise the poster-boy is there and will probably be made captain. Although I think that Lids is a shoe/should be for captaincy, if its selling hockey to people, he might be overlooked. It isn't simply about showcasing the best players anymore. They insist on this to sell the game, yet increasing funding for advertising of the playoffs would draw in far more fans after they watch real hockey. The ASG attracts young fans, who then suddenly don't know which team to follow after their favourite players go back to their respective organisations.... "Do I follow Crosby, or Toews?" Sorry if little or none of that made sense. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MidMichSteve 1,115 Report post Posted January 5, 2011 Fans shouldn't be allowed to vote at all. GMs, Coaches, Sports Writers and Players should be the ones that make the selections. Crosby would still be the top vote getter because, as much as I dislike everything about him, he's still the best player in the league. Damn! I feel dirty after typing that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hokeychik22 17 Report post Posted January 5, 2011 like other people have said let our guys rest and be ready for the second half and playoffs. what really matters is who is ready come time to lift the cup.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edicius 3,269 Report post Posted January 5, 2011 Looking at the new Versus commercial for the All Star Draft, it's looking more and more like Crybaby gets to be a captain. Big ******* surprise. http://vimeo.com/18417843 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lord Stanely 39 Report post Posted January 5, 2011 Although not foolproof for d-baggery picks, perhaps a way to do this is you can vote AT a game during the season. If you are a season ticket hodler you could vote at every game. If you went once you vote once. No more internet 1,000 emails per person, robot voting crap. You still give the fans a chance to vote- but at the same time they have to put their money where their muth is to vote. This all said from somebody who goes to perhaps one game per year and lives 3.5 hours from the closest NHL city. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Osgood=WIN! 0 Report post Posted January 5, 2011 (edited) Pretty sure the year Osgood got in, he wasn't voted as the starter. He was named to the team. Voting only pertains to starters. Yep,your right. He was'nt voted the starter, Luongo was. Osgood was named starter by the league after Luongo could'nt play, which shows more I think... And yeah, "fan" balloting is a joke. Edited January 5, 2011 by Osgood=WIN! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mmamolo 287 Report post Posted January 5, 2011 Fan balloting is just another marketing tool used to create attention around the ASG. Personally I don't believe the results are accurate anyways - whether you have robot voting or the league skews the results to reflect their own interests or some other factor. At the end of the day I'd just assume no Wings go either, just as most on this board have noted, but since we'll undoubtedly have some players there I think it'd be an embarrassment (and at the risk of sounding like a homer) not to have Lidstrom as one of the captains. Unfortunately, along with that you can bet your ass the NHL guarentees Crosby is one as well. On another note, does anyone else think it'd be weird if both Datsyuk and Zetterberg we on opposing teams and they lined up to face off against one another? Who'd shut down who? Or are they both so good defensively that both go scoreless and all the ignorant fans around the world claim they both suck for going scoreless in a ridiculously high scoring ASG? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
toby91_ca 620 Report post Posted January 5, 2011 Looking at the new Versus commercial for the All Star Draft, it's looking more and more like Crybaby gets to be a captain. Big ******* surprise. http://vimeo.com/18417843 I know you are one of the biggest Crosby bashers out there, but come on, how does that ad show anything regarding Crosby being one of the captains. I think you need to get your facts straight, which are as follows: 1 - the captains will be selected by the 42 players that are chosen as allstars, so if Crosby is one of those captains, you can blame the players, not the fans, not the league, not Versus, not NBC, etc. 2 - Crosby was featured once in that ad, Ovechkin was featured 4 times....so what is the ad really showing regarding Crosby being the captain? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
toby91_ca 620 Report post Posted January 5, 2011 I love reading articles and listening to people that act like this isn't fixed. Letang has more votes than Ovechkin and Datsyuk combined. Yeah, okay, a write-in defenseman has more votes than the guys that's won 5 MVP awards in the last 3 years and the best overall player in the game. That seems realistic. The thing is, I actually used to enjoy the All Star game. But over the last few years, its like a competition to see what teams fans can hack the online balloting page and get their favorites voted in. They need to do away with fan voting or go with a more secure voting page or something. You think it must be fixed if Letang has more votes than Ovechkin and Datsyuk? Why? Letang is having a breakout year and is in the discussion for the Norris trophy. He's amoung the scoring leaders for defensemen and is amoung the league leaders for +/-. In my opinion, he won't be in the top 3 for Norris by the end of the year, let alone win it, but for now, he's in the discussion. Ovechkin is on pace for less than 30 goals this year, that's why his votes are down. Lastly, what's the point of fixing it, what does it matter? Is Letang going to be an allstar at the expense of Ovechkin and Datsyuk? No, they'll be there anyway. What does being in the top 6 really mean anyway? Means nothing. All it means is that the fans were given the chance to vote and that will matter for a very, very small portion of the roster, who cares? Let's look at who was selected and whether they deserve to be on the team or not: - Crosby - no brainer - Malkin - down year, but no question he's one of the stars of the league. If it were up to me, he'd probably be off the team, but no travisty to include him - Letang - no brainer, he's having an incredible year - Fluery - this is the one for me that I would disagree with, but he is top 5 in GAA I think, even after the terrible start, top 7 in wins. The 14-1-1 stretch he had probably helped a lot here, but I'd suggest his inclusion would be quesionable. - Toews - he's actually on pace, statistically, for his best year in the NHL and he's coming off a Stanley Cup win and Conn Smythe, I've got no problems with him on the team (he was picked at the beginning of the year as the 3rd best player in the world, I disagreed quite a bit, but don't disagree with allstar status) - Keith - similar arguments as mentioned for Toews. So at the end of the day, guys like Lidstrom, Datsyuk, Ovechkin, etc. are going to be there anyway, so what's the problem? In my view, there is really only 1 questionable inclusion at this point and even with him, there are good arguments to include. I used to love the skills competition and allstar game when I was younger, not as much anymore, but I still try to watch. Less interest is probably because when I was a kid, I was able to watch my favourite players that I didn't get to see on a regular basis. As a kid, I basically had Hockey Night in Canada every Saturday and not too much beyond that (ignoring playoffs of course). More and more games started to get shown on TSN, etc. over the years, but I still didn't get to see everyone regularly. Now, I can pretty much watch any game I want, so it doesn't feel as important. I still like seeing the results of the fastest skater and hardest shot though, other than that, not much interst. Take it for what it is, marketing. Not sure why people complain about it being a marketing ploy. The NHL is a business and it needs to market itself, of course it is marketing, allstar games in all sports are simply marketing. Some sports may try to add incentives for players to want to win to make the game better, but at the end of the day, it's all still just marketing. So what if it is more focused on the younger viewer, that's who they should be targeting. If you are an older person and a fan, you are still going to be a fan regardless and if you are older and not a fan, unlikely that you will become one, so they need to market to the youth as they are the next generation of fans. They would be completely stupid not to do so. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Broken 16 381 Report post Posted January 5, 2011 (edited) Seems to be similar sentiments all throughout, but this is really what it's about. ASG is a way of getting young fans who haven't chosen a 'favourite sport' yet, into hockey over the others. No surprise the poster-boy is there and will probably be made captain. Although I think that Lids is a shoe/should be for captaincy, if its selling hockey to people, he might be overlooked. It isn't simply about showcasing the best players anymore. They insist on this to sell the game, yet increasing funding for advertising of the playoffs would draw in far more fans after they watch real hockey. The ASG attracts young fans, who then suddenly don't know which team to follow after their favourite players go back to their respective organisations.... "Do I follow Crosby, or Toews?" Sorry if little or none of that made sense. It made sense and I agree 100%... but Battle for the Cup mode on NHL11 works good too. Edited January 5, 2011 by Broken 16 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sputman 1,268 Report post Posted January 5, 2011 NHL 2011 All-Bias Game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edicius 3,269 Report post Posted January 5, 2011 I know you are one of the biggest Crosby bashers out there, but come on, how does that ad show anything regarding Crosby being one of the captains. I think you need to get your facts straight, which are as follows: 1 - the captains will be selected by the 42 players that are chosen as allstars, so if Crosby is one of those captains, you can blame the players, not the fans, not the league, not Versus, not NBC, etc. 2 - Crosby was featured once in that ad, Ovechkin was featured 4 times....so what is the ad really showing regarding Crosby being the captain? Crosby, staring at monitors full of players - monitors full of players ready to be drafted. Drafted by the team captains. Honestly, I thought it was pretty obvious. *shrug* I honestly think the captaincy choices have already been made, despite anything the league says, considering the time they need to produce the jerseys, promotional clothing items, marketing materials, etc. It's already been confirmed that the teams will be named "Team Captain A" and "Team Captain B" and the ASG isn't that far away. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kira 451 Report post Posted January 5, 2011 Murph had it right last night when he said it was nothing but a popularity contest. Good thing Pasha has a legitimate reason for not showing up, though if I know Buttman, he'll find a reason to suspend him a game for not being there. What a joke. What a damned pathetic joke. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HankthaTank 1,100 Report post Posted January 5, 2011 Good thing Pasha has a legitimate reason for not showing up, though if I know Buttman, he'll find a reason to suspend him a game for not being there. That's fine. He can just bridge the suspension with his recovery time. Not really that big of a deal. Will be happy to have a well rested determined Datsyuk come February Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
