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Name Me a Better 2-Way Player Today than Henrik Zetterberg…
Arguments for Zetterberg vs Datsyuk, Kesler, Richards, Toews, Eriksson,
and Crosby (WTF?)here.
Poll.
I say:
Zetterberg/Datsyuk
Kesler
Richards
Name Me a Better 2-Way Player Today than Henrik Zetterberg…
Started by zetterbergfan, Jan 11 2011 03:25 PM
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Posted 11 January 2011 - 03:26 PM
Hank is terrible, didn't even make the All Star Game...
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Posted 11 January 2011 - 03:30 PM
Ewwwwwww... change the title. I think you dragged some HF smell over here with this thread.
Although, my favorite assessment was the guy that said that Crosby is the best player in the league, and plays 2-way hockey... so therefore, he is the best two-way player in the NHL. Greatest logic ever.
Although, my favorite assessment was the guy that said that Crosby is the best player in the league, and plays 2-way hockey... so therefore, he is the best two-way player in the NHL. Greatest logic ever.
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Posted 11 January 2011 - 03:35 PM
Pav and Hank are the flat out best. Bias? maybe. But I have watched quite a bit of hockey in my lifetime and the Wings consistently shell out at least someone in the top 5 at 2-way play. Hank is possibly one of the best I have seen at being just stuck on his guy (see: all Penguins games) and then able to score on the other end and quite 
at that, too. Pav's takeaways are just sicknasty and the offensive game is second to none. I need for some good points against it other than time on PK, blocked shots compared to points and what have you. We seriously are ungodly lucky to have these 2 on the same team.
at that, too. Pav's takeaways are just sicknasty and the offensive game is second to none. I need for some good points against it other than time on PK, blocked shots compared to points and what have you. We seriously are ungodly lucky to have these 2 on the same team.
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Posted 11 January 2011 - 03:39 PM
Ewwwwwww... change the title. I think you dragged some HF smell over here with this thread.
Although, my favorite assessment was the guy that said that Crosby is the best player in the league, and plays 2-way hockey... so therefore, he is the best two-way player in the NHL. Greatest logic ever.
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Posted 11 January 2011 - 03:43 PM
I can honestly only think of one player better in the NHL and he also wears the Winged Wheel...
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Posted 11 January 2011 - 03:44 PM
Best 2 way player in the game on a consistent basis? Currently watching games from the press box with a broken wrist.
OK, granted Dats & Z are like 1A & 1B. And I have to add, if either one of them wanted to concentrate on offense only, there's no question in my mind that either one would lead the league in scoring.
OK, granted Dats & Z are like 1A & 1B. And I have to add, if either one of them wanted to concentrate on offense only, there's no question in my mind that either one would lead the league in scoring.
Edited by ogreslayer, 11 January 2011 - 03:51 PM.
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Posted 11 January 2011 - 03:49 PM
Agreed.I can honestly only think of one player better in the NHL and he also wears the Winged Wheel...
A few years ago it was pretty tough to say of the 2 who was better; since then for me Dats has emerged as the better...That said - Hank is still 1 of the top 2-way forwards in the game, and at this moment I cannot think of anyone else who's as good as our Euro Twins.
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Posted 11 January 2011 - 03:51 PM
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HankthaTank - Squirrels, they hate to be thrown. / Why is the magical unicorn named Brian... Jedi - I just downloaded the "kids" book, "Go the F--k to Sleep" as narrated by Samuel L. Jackson on my kindle. I am now ready to be a daddy. / *Checks Router* No, I'm positive I didn't hit the "Wings Defense Sucks" button. Electrophile - I'm just glad the Wings were able to win despite the Curse of Brian. ACallToArms - I think Trey needs to put something about payroll tax and deferred income in his sig... Edicius - I'd rather [have] a soundbite of me saying "I like (man sausage)" rather than "I like Crosby".
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Posted 11 January 2011 - 03:53 PM
This. And it is quite under appreciated. But whatever, just honored to have them both.OK, granted Dats & Z are like 1A & 1B. And I have to add, if either one of them wanted to concentrate on offense only, there's no question in my mind that either one would lead the league in scoring.
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Posted 11 January 2011 - 03:53 PM
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Posted 11 January 2011 - 03:59 PM
Group A.Datsyuk
Group B.Kesler/Zetterberg/M. Koivu
Big bold black line
Group C.Richards/Toews/Couture/Eriksson/Crosby/J. Staal/Bergeron/Zajak/Hossa/Backstrom
I really want to put Zetterberg neck and neck with Datsyuk, but I just have to separate them, Zetterberg does need more recognition though on Selke voting.
Group B.Kesler/Zetterberg/M. Koivu
Big bold black line
Group C.Richards/Toews/Couture/Eriksson/Crosby/J. Staal/Bergeron/Zajak/Hossa/Backstrom
I really want to put Zetterberg neck and neck with Datsyuk, but I just have to separate them, Zetterberg does need more recognition though on Selke voting.
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Posted 11 January 2011 - 04:02 PM
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Posted 11 January 2011 - 04:03 PM
If it was the last minute of a game and we are up by one, I want Datsyuk out there. If it's the last minute and the other team is on the Power Play, then I want Zetterberg out there. If there is an empty net involved, i want Draper out there.
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HankthaTank - Squirrels, they hate to be thrown. / Why is the magical unicorn named Brian... Jedi - I just downloaded the "kids" book, "Go the F--k to Sleep" as narrated by Samuel L. Jackson on my kindle. I am now ready to be a daddy. / *Checks Router* No, I'm positive I didn't hit the "Wings Defense Sucks" button. Electrophile - I'm just glad the Wings were able to win despite the Curse of Brian. ACallToArms - I think Trey needs to put something about payroll tax and deferred income in his sig... Edicius - I'd rather [have] a soundbite of me saying "I like (man sausage)" rather than "I like Crosby".
HankthaTank - Squirrels, they hate to be thrown. / Why is the magical unicorn named Brian... Jedi - I just downloaded the "kids" book, "Go the F--k to Sleep" as narrated by Samuel L. Jackson on my kindle. I am now ready to be a daddy. / *Checks Router* No, I'm positive I didn't hit the "Wings Defense Sucks" button. Electrophile - I'm just glad the Wings were able to win despite the Curse of Brian. ACallToArms - I think Trey needs to put something about payroll tax and deferred income in his sig... Edicius - I'd rather [have] a soundbite of me saying "I like (man sausage)" rather than "I like Crosby".
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Posted 11 January 2011 - 04:15 PM
I'd say Datsyuk, then Kesler and Zetterberg.
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Posted 11 January 2011 - 04:19 PM
"WAAAAH someone insulted my favorite player on HFBoards!"
HFBoards is full of retards (except for a few LGW posters that also post over there). Some of them have the gall to say that Letang, Enstrom, or Byfuglien deserve to get the Norris over Lidstrom.
HFBoards is full of retards (except for a few LGW posters that also post over there). Some of them have the gall to say that Letang, Enstrom, or Byfuglien deserve to get the Norris over Lidstrom.
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Posted 11 January 2011 - 04:20 PM
Datsyuk is a slightly better two way player than Zetterberg, he does it all season long and makes it look really easy, however Zetterberg really turns on his game post season. That being said if you want me to throw in another name that hasn't been mentioned, Hossa is a damned good two-way player himself.
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Posted 11 January 2011 - 04:37 PM
I came in here to say this. Datsyuk to me is the best and on his own tier but Zetterberg is not untouchable thats for sure. Kesler is pretty even with him in my eyes, same with Koivu, and all these guys are pretty even offensively with him as well.I'd say Datsyuk, then Kesler and Zetterberg.
There will probably be a lot of homer types in here that say Zettererberg and Datsyuk are by far the best but thats not really true. Kesler is damn good and so is Koivu. Mike Richards is no slouch either, same with Toews. Zetterberg is still great though
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Posted 11 January 2011 - 04:48 PM
If you adjust for quality of competition, Zetterberg is much better than Kesler.I came in here to say this. Datsyuk to me is the best and on his own tier but Zetterberg is not untouchable thats for sure. Kesler is pretty even with him in my eyes, same with Koivu, and all these guys are pretty even offensively with him as well.
There will probably be a lot of homer types in here that say Zettererberg and Datsyuk are by far the best but thats not really true. Kesler is damn good and so is Koivu. Mike Richards is no slouch either, same with Toews. Zetterberg is still great though
Just saying.
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Posted 11 January 2011 - 04:55 PM
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