Guest blueadams Report post Posted June 1, 2011 Like I've said in other posts, we're gonna have about 12m to spend on three roster spots this off-season (2 forwards and 1 defenseman...2 defensemen if Smith isn't on the team). Like most of you, I'm not seeing many long-term 'core' pieces that I'd like to see us make a commitment to in this FA class. So, I'm taking a look at good 35+ players that might be willing to sign a one year contract with us. I'll provide a little bit of information, and some thoughts below. But really, I'm posting this because I want to hear what other board members think about these guys. Looking forward to hearing them! FORWARDS: Teemu Selanne, 40, RW, 6-0, 196, R, 4.5m - He'd be absolutely perfect, but it'll be hard to get him out of ANA. Milan Hejduk, 35, RW, 6-0, 190, R, 3.0m - He'd be a nice top 6 addition imo. Brendan Morrison, 35, C/W, 5-11, 185, L, 0.7m - More of a play-maker than a scorer, which we have enough of. Cory Stillman, 37, LW/RW, 6-0, 200, L, 3.5m - Perhaps.. Andrew Brunette, 37, LW, 6-1, 210, L, 2.3m - Perhaps.. DEFENSEMEN: Roman Hamrlik, 37, D, 6-2, 207, L, 5.5m - Possible second pairing. Bryan McCabe, 35, D, 6-2, 220, L, 5.75m - Possible second pairing. Sami Salo, 36, D, 6-3, 212, R, 3.5m - Possible second pairing...could be Lids opposite on the PP. Niclas Wallin, 36, D, 6-3, 220, L, 2.65m - Possible bottom pairing. ...Though he's not included on this list, because he's 34, I'd like to see us sign Jovanovski to a one year contract. I'd like to see us significantly outbid ANA for Selanne on a one year contract. And I'd like to see us sign Hejduk to a one year contract. 1 dobbles reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MGreenberg 105 Report post Posted June 1, 2011 (edited) I really don't think this team needs to get more "Veterans". Would much rather see the Wings money go towards players around 27 or 28 instead of 35 and up. FORWARDS Valtteri Filppula ($3.000m) / Pavel Datsyuk ($6.700m) / Tomas Holmstrom ($1.875m) Johan Franzen ($3.954m) / Henrik Zetterberg ($6.083m) / Daniel Cleary ($2.800m) Tomas Fleischmann ($3.000m) / Darren Helm ($0.912m) / Radim Vrbata ($3.500m) Drew Miller ($0.850m) / Justin Abdelkader ($0.787m) / Todd Bertuzzi ($1.937m) Patrick Eaves ($0.850m) / Kris Draper ($1.250m) / Jan Mursak ($0.550m) DEFENSEMEN James Wisniewski ($4.500m) / Niklas Kronwall ($3.000m) Anton Babchuk ($2.000m) / Nicklas Lidstrom ($5.500m) Brad Stuart ($3.750m) / Jakub Kindl ($0.883m) GOALTENDERS Jimmy Howard ($2.250m) / Joey MacDonald ($0.550m) CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter) (these totals are compiled without the bonus cushion) SALARY CAP: $63,500,000; CAP PAYROLL: $60,483,711; BONUSES: $0 CAP SPACE (23-man roster): $3,016,289 Edited June 1, 2011 by MGreenberg Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Konnan511 1,736 Report post Posted June 1, 2011 I really want Hamrlik here on a couple one year contracts. And Hejduk is another guy I thought would come cheap here as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VM1138 1,921 Report post Posted June 1, 2011 I think Kenny is done signing wily veterans for now. It worked and all, bu right now the team needs more than one year contract solutions. With Rafalski gone and Lidstrom probably retiring next season, it's not about simply adding a bit of depth, it's about rebuilding the back end at the very least. The time for past-their-prime veteran signings is probably over, at least until the core is rebuilt with some longer-term deals. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wings3:16 324 Report post Posted June 1, 2011 Hejduk already re-signed with Colorado I believe. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Travis 576 Report post Posted June 1, 2011 (edited) Hejduk already re-signed with Colorado I believe. Yeah, he did. http://www.denverpost.com/sports/ci_18045940 I am also of the mindset that this team has enough veteran presence and would rather seem the front office focus their attention on younger talent and the future. Edited June 1, 2011 by Travis Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chrisdetroit 189 Report post Posted June 1, 2011 Like I've said in other posts, we're gonna have about 12m to spend on three roster spots this off-season (2 forwards and 1 defenseman...2 defensemen if Smith isn't on the team). Like most of you, I'm not seeing many long-term 'core' pieces that I'd like to see us make a commitment to in this FA class. So, I'm taking a look at good 35+ players that might be willing to sign a one year contract with us. I'll provide a little bit of information, and some thoughts below. But really, I'm posting this because I want to hear what other board members think about these guys. Looking forward to hearing them! FORWARDS: Teemu Selanne, 40, RW, 6-0, 196, R, 4.5m - He'd be absolutely perfect, but it'll be hard to get him out of ANA. Milan Hejduk, 35, RW, 6-0, 190, R, 3.0m - He'd be a nice top 6 addition imo. Brendan Morrison, 35, C/W, 5-11, 185, L, 0.7m - More of a play-maker than a scorer, which we have enough of. Cory Stillman, 37, LW/RW, 6-0, 200, L, 3.5m - Perhaps.. Andrew Brunette, 37, LW, 6-1, 210, L, 2.3m - Perhaps.. DEFENSEMEN: Roman Hamrlik, 37, D, 6-2, 207, L, 5.5m - Possible second pairing. Bryan McCabe, 35, D, 6-2, 220, L, 5.75m - Possible second pairing. Sami Salo, 36, D, 6-3, 212, R, 3.5m - Possible second pairing...could be Lids opposite on the PP. Niclas Wallin, 36, D, 6-3, 220, L, 2.65m - Possible bottom pairing. ...Though he's not included on this list, because he's 34, I'd like to see us sign Jovanovski to a one year contract. I'd like to see us significantly outbid ANA for Selanne on a one year contract. And I'd like to see us sign Hejduk to a one year contract. We are not going to sign any FA forwards. Unless we lose both Miller and Eaves, we have to many forwards now. Mursak is out of options so he will be on the team. Draper wants to play another year and we are stuck with Hudler. We are not going to sign any FA forwards. Unless we lose both Miller and Eaves, we have to many forwards now. Mursak is out of options so he will be on the team. Draper wants to play another year and we are stuck with Hudler. Jovanovski or Wisniski one of the two will be a Red Wing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hockey23 79 Report post Posted June 1, 2011 We are not going to sign any FA forwards. Unless we lose both Miller and Eaves, we have to many forwards now. Mursak is out of options so he will be on the team. Draper wants to play another year and we are stuck with Hudler. Babcock disagrees... We need, uh…Uh, a top-six D, or a top-two D, to replace Rafalski; we need a top-six forward to give our guys opportunity Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xtrememachine1 795 Report post Posted June 1, 2011 Selanne would be a nice addition, but I think he's done. He's accomplished a lot and already has his name on the Cup, but if Paul Kariya came back, I could Selanne playing one more year to help his buddy win a championship. I wouldn't have a problem with Kariya playing here for a year. He was always one of my favorite non-Wings players and wouldn't mind seeing what he could do with Detroit. All assuming his concussion problems are behind him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest blueadams Report post Posted June 1, 2011 Selanne would be a nice addition, but I think he's done. He's accomplished a lot and already has his name on the Cup, but if Paul Kariya came back, I could Selanne playing one more year to help his buddy win a championship. I wouldn't have a problem with Kariya playing here for a year. He was always one of my favorite non-Wings players and wouldn't mind seeing what he could do with Detroit. All assuming his concussion problems are behind him. signing Kariya to a one year deal might actually be the best way to lure Selanne - who is far from being done, imo (did you see his numbers this season!?). I really don't think this team needs to get more "Veterans". agreed, but what are our options? we can either sign a good veteran to a one year contract, and have a shot at a real stud in next year's class. or we can overpay for a mediocre young player in a weak FA class and be stuck with him for 5 yrs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xtrememachine1 795 Report post Posted June 1, 2011 signing Kariya to a one year deal might actually be the best way to lure Selanne - who is far from being done, imo (did you see his numbers this season!?). Oh yeah, no question here that he can still play. His regular season and especially his playoff numbers showed that (6 goals in 6 games). I just wonder if he has the desire to go through another season. He did make a comment at the end of the year indicating he was frustrated with the Ducks ("Ducks hockey, it's like a box of chocolates"), so maybe he'll just look elsewhere. signing Kariya to a one year deal might actually be the best way to lure Selanne - who is far from being done, imo (did you see his numbers this season!?). agreed, but what are our options? we can either sign a good veteran to a one year contract, and have a shot at a real stud in next year's class. or we can overpay for a mediocre young player in a weak FA class and be stuck with him for 5 yrs. Right or wrong, I'm a fan of the veteran short term deals. I was a fan of the Modano and Hasek signings. I think its a good way to bridge that gap till we get the player we want to fill that spot long term. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
St. Michael (the Red Wing) 422 Report post Posted June 1, 2011 No more "vets" please. We have enough of them on our team. I think it's about time to start thinking towards the future with some young guys stepping up whether they are ready or not. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
e_prime 1,936 Report post Posted June 1, 2011 (edited) No to Selane. No to Kariya. No to "veteran top six wingers" over 35. Edited June 1, 2011 by e_prime Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kipwinger 8,770 Report post Posted June 1, 2011 I don't see them signing anyone older than 32-33 and I definitely don't see them signing anyone to one year contracts considering the pieces they need aren't really role pieces but core guys (top four defensman and top six forward). Look to Bieksa, Erhoff, and Wisniewski on D, and I really don't know about the forwards, not much out there...hopefully, Brooks Laich. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eva unit zero 271 Report post Posted June 2, 2011 signing Kariya to a one year deal might actually be the best way to lure Selanne - who is far from being done, imo (did you see his numbers this season!?). agreed, but what are our options? we can either sign a good veteran to a one year contract, and have a shot at a real stud in next year's class. or we can overpay for a mediocre young player in a weak FA class and be stuck with him for 5 yrs. Kariya would be a great acquisition... if he could play for more than three consecutive games without a concussion. Selanne won't be a Red Wing. Don't even think it for a second. As for the other FAs... Who are we going to sign next year, Ryan Suter? Matt Carle? John-Michael Liles? After that, for the 2012 class, we're looking at guys like Sheldon Souray, Jeff Finger, and Hal Gill. No option for UFAs next year is better than signing one or two of Pitkanen, Ehrhoff, Bieksa, and Wisniewski. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Crymson Report post Posted June 2, 2011 we can either sign a good veteran to a one year contract, and have a shot at a real stud in next year's class. Why do you need to even speculate on this, given that even Selanne has said that he'll either re-sign with the Ducks or retire? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest blueadams Report post Posted June 2, 2011 Kariya would be a great acquisition... if he could play for more than three consecutive games without a concussion. Selanne won't be a Red Wing. Don't even think it for a second. As for the other FAs... Who are we going to sign next year, Ryan Suter? Matt Carle? John-Michael Liles? After that, for the 2012 class, we're looking at guys like Sheldon Souray, Jeff Finger, and Hal Gill. No option for UFAs next year is better than signing one or two of Pitkanen, Ehrhoff, Bieksa, and Wisniewski. I think that Suter is really a super-star...Weber and Doughty might be available if they only sign one year tenders...Burns is going to be a UFA isn't he? Why do you need to even speculate on this, given that even Selanne has said that he'll either re-sign with the Ducks or retire? why do you make smart arse comments like that, instead of just informing us that he said that and posting a link? i know the answer. do you? 1 Hockey13Playa reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WorkingOvertime 536 Report post Posted June 2, 2011 I think that Suter is really a super-star...Weber and Doughty might be available if they only sign one year tenders...Burns is going to be a UFA isn't he? why do you make smart arse comments like that, instead of just informing us that he said that and posting a link? i know the answer. do you? Weber and Doughty won't sign one year deals expiring as UFA. If that were the case, the teams would trade their rights or allow offer-sheets to be made. The picks/players would be worth more than the one year the player would put in on the new contract. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Buppy 1,720 Report post Posted June 2, 2011 I think that Suter is really a super-star...Weber and Doughty might be available if they only sign one year tenders...Burns is going to be a UFA isn't he? Suter and Burns are definitely better than anything in this year's class. It's highly unlikely that Weber will sign a 1-year deal. Doughty wouldn't matter anyway. To be unrestricted you need to either be 27, or play 7 years in the NHL. Doughty could sign 3 consecutive 1-year deals and still be restricted at the end. But that's really beside the point. You're allowed to sign younger players to 1-year deals. You can also make trades. There's no reason to target older players. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
grwingfan 21 Report post Posted June 2, 2011 I'm with you guys about not adding any new forwards this offseason. We will resign Eaves, Miller & Draper and Mursak will be up with the Wings. We will however add D-Man and my money is on Wisniewski for his offensive abilities to replace Rafalski or Jovanovski for a few years. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest blueadams Report post Posted June 2, 2011 I'm with you guys about not adding any new forwards this offseason. We will resign Eaves, Miller & Draper and Mursak will be up with the Wings. We will however add D-Man and my money is on Wisniewski for his offensive abilities to replace Rafalski or Jovanovski for a few years. then you and your buddies are in disagreement with babcock, who said that we need to add a top 6 forward. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 5,152 Report post Posted June 3, 2011 We are not going to sign any FA forwards. Unless we lose both Miller and Eaves, we have to many forwards now. Mursak is out of options so he will be on the team. Draper wants to play another year and we are stuck with Hudler. I am not so sure that we are stuck with Hudler, but if he doesn't get traded before the season, he will more than likely be offered up in a package around the deadline to help get that one player to put the Wings over the top. Or if he is stinking up the ice (which he will be) he may be just a pending UFA salary dump. I prefer to trade him yesterday, but that just me... Jovanovski or Wisniski one of the two will be a Red Wing. There is no reason why both can't be Wings. Even if Ericsson comes down off that date rape drug he is on and realizes he needs to accept a contract around $1.2-$1.5M that would still leave two spots to be filled allowing Smith to remain in Rapids... Lids - Wiz Stuart - Kronner Eric - Jovo Kindl Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
