Kronwall and the Red Wings
Contract talks are well under way between the Red Wings and star blueliner Niklas Kronwall, who is eligible to become UFA on July 1. Both camps spoke this week. My colleague at TSN, Darren Dreger, also reports the Kronwall camp is looking for a long-term, front-loaded deal similar to what Christian Ehrhoff signed with Buffalo.
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Posted 28 September 2011 - 09:16 PM
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Posted 28 September 2011 - 09:21 PM
Sheesh Ehrhoff contract? Dont like the sound of that.
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Posted 28 September 2011 - 09:39 PM
I wouldn't have a problem with a Erhoff like contract. The cap hit was only $4 million, and the player gets paid. Protects against any roll back of salary in new CBA, and utilizes these loopholes before they are closed up. 10 years may be a bit much, but 6 isn't bad.
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Posted 28 September 2011 - 09:59 PM
Kronwall is pretty injury prone though. Not liking the sound of that at all.
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Posted 28 September 2011 - 10:03 PM
Kronwall is pretty injury prone though. Not liking the sound of that at all.
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Posted 28 September 2011 - 10:05 PM
Saw Darren Dreger mentioned this on TSN before the Jets' game and he said it would more likely be in the 7 year range than 10 years.
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Posted 28 September 2011 - 10:12 PM
5-7 years with 5 million cap hit would please my ear.
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Posted 28 September 2011 - 10:15 PM
5-7 years with 5 million cap hit would please my ear.
me too. Get it done Kenny
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Posted 29 September 2011 - 12:08 AM
me too. Get it done Kenny
I feel like this is muttered way to often around here! Don't get me wrong, "In Kenny We Trust" but for some reason, I feel like there is going to come a time when Kenny "can't get it done".
I hope we can get Kronners around 5 a year for 5-7 years but after some of the recent signings....I don't know.
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Posted 29 September 2011 - 02:20 AM
I feel like this is muttered way to often around here! Don't get me wrong, "In Kenny We Trust" but for some reason, I feel like there is going to come a time when Kenny "can't get it done".
I hope we can get Kronners around 5 a year for 5-7 years but after some of the recent signings....I don't know.
Oh, don't worry, I didn't.
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Posted 29 September 2011 - 05:25 AM
I feel like this is muttered way to often around here! Don't get me wrong, "In Kenny We Trust" but for some reason, I feel like there is going to come a time when Kenny "can't get it done".
i think it's just fun to say.
i don't think kenny is waiting around for our approval.
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Posted 29 September 2011 - 08:29 AM
He is gonna get paid for sure. I'd love to see him and Stuart around the same pay, then leave lots of cash for the Weber/Suter sweepstakes...
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Posted 29 September 2011 - 09:17 AM
Are you kidding? I would cream myself if we were somehow able to lock up Kronwall for the remainder of his career with an Ehrhoff type deal. $4 million cap hit for a guy of his calibre! If Kenny somehow pulls this one off, he really is a magician.Sheesh Ehrhoff contract? Dont like the sound of that.
As long as Ilitch doesn't mind dropping the big coin the first two years (something he's never seemed to have a problem with), this potential deal is nothing but a major win for Kenny and Detroit.
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Posted 29 September 2011 - 09:37 AM
5 mil for knronwall? im thinking 6-6.5mil
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Posted 29 September 2011 - 09:49 AM
As long as kronwall doesn't think he's Lids equal or will be at some point I can see him taking a long term deal like that. I'm thinking more closer to 5mil cap hit but even that is good.Are you kidding? I would cream myself if we were somehow able to lock up Kronwall for the remainder of his career with an Ehrhoff type deal. $4 million cap hit for a guy of his calibre! If Kenny somehow pulls this one off, he really is a magician.
As long as Ilitch doesn't mind dropping the big coin the first two years (something he's never seemed to have a problem with), this deal is nothing but a major win for Kenny and Detroit.
Edited by hillbillywingsfan, 29 September 2011 - 10:23 AM.
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Posted 29 September 2011 - 09:54 AM
I'd be completely content with an Ehrhoff-type deal.
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Posted 29 September 2011 - 10:18 AM
I completely agree, which is why I'd be floored if he signed for an "Ehrhoff" contract.As long as kronwall doesn't think he's Lids equal or will be at some point I can see him taking a long term deal like that. I'm think more closer to 5mil cap hit but even that is good.
It's amazing how much clarity comes when you care more about the Red Wings than any individual player.
"They are the best team in the world. They are a team that can just take over when they want to," Chicago's Patrick Kane said (of the Detroit Red Wings).
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Posted 29 September 2011 - 10:36 AM
Agreed. And it seems like he will have to frontload fairly high given what other guys are signing for, and also so it looks fair relative to Ericsson's deal.Are you kidding? I would cream myself if we were somehow able to lock up Kronwall for the remainder of his career with an Ehrhoff type deal. $4 million cap hit for a guy of his calibre! If Kenny somehow pulls this one off, he really is a magician.
As long as Ilitch doesn't mind dropping the big coin the first two years (something he's never seemed to have a problem with), this potential deal is nothing but a major win for Kenny and Detroit.
Even if he were to make more than Lids, that doesn't mean he thinks he's Lidstrom's equal. At 30 Kronwall is fairly young, and the very fact that Lidstrom will be retiring soon makes him more valuable and will drive up the price of his contract. That's a giant hole in the lineup to fill, and while no one can do it completely, Kronner is the one currently on the Wings able to pick up the most slack.As long as kronwall doesn't think he's Lids equal or will be at some point I can see him taking a long term deal like that. I'm thinking more closer to 5mil cap hit but even that is good.
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Posted 29 September 2011 - 11:49 AM
Hypothetical 7 year deal:
Year by year salary = [$6M $6M $6M $6M $4M $4M $4M]
Cap Hit = $5.1429M
Hypothetical 10 year deal:
Year by year salary = [$6M $7M $7M $6.5M $5M $4.25M $3.75M $1M $1M $1M]
Cap Hit = $4.25M
Do you think these are fair?
Year by year salary = [$6M $6M $6M $6M $4M $4M $4M]
Cap Hit = $5.1429M
Hypothetical 10 year deal:
Year by year salary = [$6M $7M $7M $6.5M $5M $4.25M $3.75M $1M $1M $1M]
Cap Hit = $4.25M
Do you think these are fair?
Edited by Nevermind, 29 September 2011 - 11:50 AM.
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