evilzyme 769 Report post Posted December 22, 2011 Ryan Kesler has been easily one of the most fond hockey players non-wings related for me, unfortunately it seems slowly but surely he is just rubbing me all the wrong ways on how he conducts himself. I'm not saying I know him personally but after receiving that beautiful legitimate hockey hit he has come off as one of the weakest minded hockey players i've come across. Listen, if you're going to play, none-the-less at a professional level being considered one of the best two-way forwards in the league, understand that when you have positive control of the puck and give Kronner no less an opportunity to lay you out, you're going to get hit/knocked off the puck. The latest interview of Kesler b!tching about Kronner just had me laughing, " I think if you're going to hit guys like that, you're going to have to drop the gloves." "I think he has zero career fights in his career," Kesler said. "If you're going to continue to hit like that, I think you've got to answer the bell." Kesler delivered a thigh-on-knee hit on Henrik Zetterberg's left leg, though Kesler denied doing so. "I have no idea what you're talking about," Kesler said when asked by a Detroit reporter. Why? Why does Kesler magically think because Kronner wants to dish legitimate hits that stop plays dead in their tracks, ending what could be a potential odd man rush/scoring chance, he needs to drop the gloves? No less you come back later in the game and knee someone back? Please, someone get this 13 year old he isn't playing bantam anymore. Full article: http://www.freep.com/article/20111222/SPORTS05/112220459/1053/sports05 5 Yak19, Hockeymom1960, pucktividi and 2 others reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
puckloo39 5,686 Report post Posted December 22, 2011 (edited) eh, Kesler has always been one of my non-Wing favorites, too. The Canucks have delusions of grandeur when it comes to their place in the NHL. Makes them say ridiculous things. Kronner may not have more fights than Kesler, but he's got more Stanley Cups. Oh, well. Kesler is a wanna-be Datsyuk has more Selke's, too. Just sayin'..... Edited December 22, 2011 by puckloo39 2 Ally and LidsFan reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mmamolo 287 Report post Posted December 22, 2011 Honestly, it's just the cry baby attitude that a lot of the Canucks players seem to have. There's an arrogance to some of their players which is unfortunate because at times they (the arrogant, whiney players) can so good. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mjlegend 155 Report post Posted December 22, 2011 Hopefully Alex Edler was prepared to drop the gloves after hitting Kane last year in the first round. You know, because you can't hit anyone unless you're prepared to fight. Like Edler's never done in his life. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Din758 371 Report post Posted December 22, 2011 what a little cry baby ***** 2 TheDetroitRedWings and sleepwalker reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ace76 28 Report post Posted December 22, 2011 watch the replay, kesler totally sticks his leg out in an attempt to injure zette and should get punished for running around just trying to hurt players. he is such a little cry baby 1 LidsFan reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bring Back The Bruise Bros 1,029 Report post Posted December 22, 2011 If Scott Stevens had to answer for every hit he made, he would've hit a million penalty minutes. Kesler is a joke. He's not from Detroit. I refuse to believe it. 1 number9 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ben_usmc 253 Report post Posted December 22, 2011 Kesler should be thankful Kronner didn't fight. Not that I think Kronwall is a bad ass or anything, but Kesler is a ******* ***** Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jollymania 162 Report post Posted December 22, 2011 Well tbh if Kronner isn't suspended Shanahan has no credibility left. 2 Shaman and Bertmondi reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rrasco 1,312 Report post Posted December 22, 2011 Well tbh if Kronner isn't suspended Shanahan has no credibility left. Why? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jollymania 162 Report post Posted December 22, 2011 And any hit that deserves a suspension probably deserves a fight too. Why? if fistric was suspended for leaving his feet during the hit; that is after contact; and kronwall is clearly off the ice before contact then how wouldn't kronwall be suspended? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sputman 1,268 Report post Posted December 22, 2011 If Scott Stevens had to answer for every hit he made, he would've hit a million penalty minutes. Kesler is a joke. He's not from Detroit. I refuse to believe it. oh come on now, if kesler were a wing we'd all love him. 1 Bertmondi reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,794 Report post Posted December 22, 2011 I hate Kesler and his behavior, but I have nothing against him challenging Kronwall to back up his hit. It was a questionable hit and he did leave his feet somewhat. Kronwall shouldn't be afraid of obliging Kesler there. And don't compare him to Scott Stevens. Stevens had more than his share of fights throughout his career, especially in his prime. I don't expect or want Kronwall to drop his gloves a lot, but I don't want to see him skating away from Ryan Kesler either. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bring Back The Bruise Bros 1,029 Report post Posted December 22, 2011 And don't compare him to Scott Stevens. Stevens had more than his share of fights throughout his career, especially in his prime. I never directly compared Kronwall to Stevens, more today's NHL to the NHL of the past, as far as having to answer for every hit, whether its clean or not. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GSBrooks13 204 Report post Posted December 22, 2011 Okay Kesler, fair enough maybe he should expect to have to drop the gloves if he hits people like that, but if you continue to skate around with your head down maybe you should expect to be hit like that and not be such a ***** about it when you do. 1 Byorski reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PROBIE4PREZ 58 Report post Posted December 22, 2011 Kesler is a whiney *****. He has a damn shoulder .. use it. I love how Kronwall DOESNT fight after huge hits. It drives the opposition nuts! 1 mjlegend reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GoWings1905 2,694 Report post Posted December 22, 2011 (edited) Why do you always have to answer for hitting in the NHL now? Keep your head up next time Kesler and it won't be an issue. This guy used to be one of my favorite players in the league until last season, especially in the playoffs. Now I just see him as a whiner and hypocrite. It is completely wrong for Kronwall to make a hit but Kesler is allowed to stick his knee out and try to injure Zetterberg? Total clown -- fits in well on that team with the Sedin's, Bieksa and Burrows. Edited December 22, 2011 by GoWings1905 4 LidsFan, sleepwalker and Hockeymom1960 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rrasco 1,312 Report post Posted December 22, 2011 I don't expect or want Kronwall to drop his gloves a lot, but I don't want to see him skating away from Ryan Kesler either. Then what happens if Kronner breaks his hand and is out for weeks? It's not worth it. I about had a heart attack when Datsyuk dropped em with Perry. It was awesomely terrifying. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jollymania 162 Report post Posted December 22, 2011 I hate Kesler and his behavior, but I have nothing against him challenging Kronwall to back up his hit. It was a questionable hit and he did leave his feet somewhat. Kronwall shouldn't be afraid of obliging Kesler there. And don't compare him to Scott Stevens. Stevens had more than his share of fights throughout his career, especially in his prime. I don't expect or want Kronwall to drop his gloves a lot, but I don't want to see him skating away from Ryan Kesler either. even dropped em with probert Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Travis 576 Report post Posted December 22, 2011 I love how Kronwall DOESNT fight after huge hits. It drives the opposition nuts! This. I was listening to Chicago radio when he destroyed Havlat in '09 and the announcers were livid that Kronwall wouldn't fight. As if it were absolutely reprehensible. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,794 Report post Posted December 22, 2011 Then what happens if Kronner breaks his hand and is out for weeks? It's not worth it. I about had a heart attack when Datsyuk dropped em with Perry. It was awesomely terrifying. Injuries are a part of the game. Kronwall is more likely to get injured when someone cheapshots him in retaliation than he would be in a fight against Kesler or a Havlat. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rrasco 1,312 Report post Posted December 22, 2011 Injuries are a part of the game. Kronwall is more likely to get injured when someone cheapshots him in retaliation than he would be in a fight against Kesler or a Havlat. Injuries are a part of the game, but injuries from fighting are avoidable. 1 pazzloski reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,794 Report post Posted December 22, 2011 Injuries are a part of the game, but injuries from fighting are avoidable. Sure, by running away from Ryan Kesler. But it just doesn't look good for him and makes the team look bad. Kronwall shouldn't be afraid of Kesler. 1 esteef reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mmamolo 287 Report post Posted December 22, 2011 And any hit that deserves a suspension probably deserves a fight too. if fistric was suspended for leaving his feet during the hit; that is after contact; and kronwall is clearly off the ice before contact then how wouldn't kronwall be suspended? Leaving his feet was only part of the reason he got suspended. The main reason was because the principle point of contact was the head. In the Kronwall hit the principle point is not the head. Big difference oh come on now, if kesler were a wing we'd all love him. I honestly have always disliked Kesler because he whines, cries and is cheap. I can honestly tell you that although I'd probably cheer for him if he were a Wing I would do so begrudgingly. It's no different than how a lot of people felt when Bertuzzi was signed. Some Wings' fans hated him but were torn because part of them would want him to do well simply because he's a Wing. Despite how good he is or can be I would still really prefer he never became a Wing. Also, all this crap about Kronwall not fighting Kesler is being way overblown. Kronwall laid a big hit and it's not like he then turtled or ran away. He made his hit, got up and moved on. The refs were in between Kesler and Kronwall almost right away. Plus, at that stage Kronwall has nothing to gain by fighting. All it would do is take him off the ice for 5 mins. 2 Zeowingsfan and LidsFan reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
evilzyme 769 Report post Posted December 22, 2011 Sure, by running away from Ryan Kesler. But it just doesn't look good for him and makes the team look bad. Kronwall shouldn't be afraid of Kesler. Why, let me break it down for you why this was the BEST decision to not fight after that hit; a.) you just stopped a breakout on one of the best two way players, i mean, the play completely stopped. Guess what, kronner did his job. b.) fighting injuries, as said earlier, are avoidable injuries. If you want to fight after you just got hit, you better be damn sure that hit was illegal. Kronners, as said many times before, is not an illegal hit. Kronner admits that he left his feet, not purposely but obviously when you step up on someone like that you're going to propel into them, it can be accidental. c.) we got a powerplay out of it, why? Because Kesler was acting like an idiot. Understandable, you were just laid out by Kronner, but guess what instead of crying because you got hit in a contact spot how about you DON'T take a penalty and go score a goal. Beat them with skill, not taking stupid penalties. I'm sorry, but absolutely nothing Kesler did after that hit was acceptable. His temper was up, obviously, but you can't let things like that take over your discipline. It's an immature move, especially from one of the highly skilled players in our league. It's just another reason why Vancouver doesn't go all the way and falls short, they don't have the discipline or maturity. Small things like this don't win championships, i don't care how small or big of a problem it is, I wouldn't allow my players to act like a bunch of teenagers on the ice under my watch. 12 ace76, Byorski, GoWings1905 and 8 others reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites