dobbles 252 Report post Posted June 19, 2012 at first i felt like it was a bit high, but considering how many bad contracts are going to happen in a couple weeks, i guess it is good to put it into context. i am also happy with the 4 year term. i think that makes the higher cap hit worth it. glad to have him on board for 4 more years! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Red Wings Addict 787 Report post Posted June 19, 2012 Highway to the Danger Zone... Gonna take it right into the Danger Zone... 1 roboturner reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GSBrooks13 204 Report post Posted June 19, 2012 Finally, some good Red Wings news. I think the series against Nashville proved how important Helm was to the team (Although, Im not saying having Helm back would have changed the outcome.. but it certainly wouldnt have hurt) 2 Rebound and Rick D reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
puckloo39 5,686 Report post Posted June 19, 2012 Brilliant! This news just made my day a lot brighter. 1 WizardOfOz30 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drwscc 212 Report post Posted June 19, 2012 Highway to the Danger Zone... Gonna take it right into the Danger Zone... 4 Red Wings Addict, ogreslayer, roboturner and 1 other reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Azelov 10 Report post Posted June 19, 2012 Great!! I would love to see him play with Z sometimes. If he works his shoot he will be a lethal weapon... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xtrememachine1 795 Report post Posted June 19, 2012 Finally, some good Red Wings news. Got that right. Great!! I would love to see him play with Z sometimes. If he works his shoot he will be a lethal weapon... He's still pretty young. If he develops his offensive game a bit, maybe he could be another Martin St Louis instead of another Kris Draper. 1 Rick D reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Seraph 240 Report post Posted June 19, 2012 Great news. This kid has been working hard for this and deserves it. So glad to see him stay in red. 1 Rick D reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Salviaman 104 Report post Posted June 19, 2012 Excellent news! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 4,963 Report post Posted June 19, 2012 (edited) Honestly, I was hoping for a more of a $1.5M Cap hit, I know he is a solid player and is good at what he does, but I just don't think he earned a raise over twice what he was payed last season...I guess we will see in 4 years if he is outplaying this $2.1M. It's not that he isn't worth it, it's just needed cap space to make this team better... If Holland overpays Quincey, I will have an ulcer... I hope he keeps Abby at a modest pay...I am hoping for $1.1, but after this, I am seeing $1.8M... sorry guys, not being negative, it's just needed cap space, or maybe sign the big UFA's first and then pay your guys a bit of a inflated contract, thats all I am saying...of course after re-signing Bertuzzi at too much money, I should have seen this coming... NO QUINCEY!!! NO HUDLER!!! Please God! Please Holland! PLEASE!!!! EDIT: Also, do you now realize what it's going to take to re-sign Filppula? He will get at least $5M...that is the problem here, (and not just Holland) keep overpaying and the NHL will go belly up... I honestly see a point where the guys making $500,000 today will be at $2M within a couple of years...Hey Minny, go ahead a give Parise the world, ruin the NHL (again.) Edited June 19, 2012 by LeftWinger 4 Rick D, Sycsa, ElCapitan and 1 other reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jeff48109 474 Report post Posted June 19, 2012 for those who think this contract is a little bit high, did you all see how screwed the team was without helm at the end of the season??? 1 Nev reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dobbles 252 Report post Posted June 19, 2012 Honestly, I was hoping for a more of a $1.5M Cap hit, I know he is a solid player and is good at what he does, but I just don't think he earned a raise over twice what he was payed last season...I guess we will see in 4 years if he is outplaying this $2.1M. It's not that he isn't worth it, it's just needed cap space to make this team better... If Holland overpays Quincey, I will have an ulcer... I hope he keeps Abby at a modest pay...I am hoping for $1.1, but after this, I am seeing $1.8M... sorry guys, not being negative, it's just needed cap space, or maybe sign the big UFA's first and then pay your guys a bit of a inflated contract, thats all I am saying...of course after re-signing Bertuzzi at too much money, I should have seen this coming... NO QUINCEY!!! NO HUDLER!!! Please God! Please Holland! PLEASE!!!! i would imagine you will get a bunch of minuses, but i actually do agree with your premise. i had hoped to see him stay at least under 2 mil. but when i do think about it, i think its a fair price for what he brings. i think he was a steal for what he made last year and this contract just brings him up to snuff. the reason i find it unfortunate though is that to win a cup you really need to have several value contracts. right now i just see helm as a neutral contract. though i am hoping in the last 2 years he becomes a steal again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rick zombo 3,739 Report post Posted June 19, 2012 But, but, how's everyone going to fit Parise, Suter, Doan, Semin, and Garrison on CapGeek now that Helm's making $2,100,000? 3 roboturner, hooon and Uncle Danny reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
55fan 5,133 Report post Posted June 19, 2012 But, but, how's everyone going to fit Parise, Suter, Doan, Semin, and Garrison on CapGeek now that Helm's making $2,100,000? Easy. We just won't re-sign Hudler. 3 WizardOfOz30, AceInTheSleeve and roboturner reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 4,963 Report post Posted June 19, 2012 (edited) i would imagine you will get a bunch of minuses, but i actually do agree with your premise. i had hoped to see him stay at least under 2 mil. but when i do think about it, i think its a fair price for what he brings. i think he was a steal for what he made last year and this contract just brings him up to snuff. the reason i find it unfortunate though is that to win a cup you really need to have several value contracts. right now i just see helm as a neutral contract. though i am hoping in the last 2 years he becomes a steal again. I hope I don't get a lot of negs. I was not calling it a bad signing, or that Helm is a bum and not worth it or that Holland should be fired. I was just hoping for less of a cap hit in order to make sure we have the cash to bid high of the players we need to change this team. I am glad Helm is going to be part of that and hope that he signs again in 4 years to a lifetime contract...I just hope that this trend doesn't continue with the overpayment (around the league) because like I said, it's going to ruin the NHL when the Colton Orr's are making $4M soon... That being said, we still have $24M left to spend of Abby, Parise, Suter, Harding & Schultz & Dekeyser & Welsh...so far I haven't lost out on anyone from my wish list! (yet!) Edited June 19, 2012 by LeftWinger 2 Rick D and Sycsa reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rick D 350 Report post Posted June 19, 2012 I hope I don't get a lot of negs. I was not calling it a bad signing, or that Helm is a bum and not worth it or that Holland should be fired. I was just hoping for less of a cap hit in order to make sure we have the cash to bid high of the players we need to change this team. I am glad Helm is going to be part of that and hope that he signs again in 4 years to a lifetime contract...I just hope that this trend doesn't continue with the overpayment (around the league) because like I said, it's going to ruin the NHL when the Colton Orr's are making $4M soon... That being said, we still have $24M left to spend of Abby, Parise, Suter, Harding & Schultz & Dekeyser & Welsh...so far I haven't lost out on anyone from my wish list! (yet!) Every little bit of cap space is going to count. You over pay a bit here n there, and you go from having a solid back up goalie to being stuck w a conklin again. I do think Helm is worth every penny though. It is hard to find players that play as hard as he does every game. Having those types of players makes everyone (except Franzen i guess) want to play that much harder. Its a good start Kenny. Keep up the good signings. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hillbillywingsfan 792 Report post Posted June 19, 2012 Got that right. He's still pretty young. If he develops his offensive game a bit, maybe he could be another Martin St Louis instead of another Kris Draper. Pleas not another Draper....not that I didn't love drapes but when I would watch him get a big break away and thinking wow drapes is going to skate in and score...soon as he would cross the blue line no matter even if he was the only one there he would shoot it right after passing the line...never would try and skate in and deke...use to piss me off to no end. Me and a buddy of mine call that move the draper. When we would play NHL on pc together we always would play drapes like that...hahaha..slapper from the point on breakaways. hahaha 1 Rick D reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ram 240 Report post Posted June 19, 2012 (edited) A little bias, because Helmer's my favorite guy on the squad, but I do think this is worth the signing. He has only gotten better, and unless becomes injury prone, I don't see why he will continue to do so over the next few years. Maybe not huge numbers, but the guy busts his ass every night, does he not? Teams benefit from players like that. :thumb up: Edit: Reply is #43 !!! It's meant to be!!! Edited June 19, 2012 by Ram 4 Rick D, 55fan, WizardOfOz30 and 1 other reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Johnz96 Report post Posted June 19, 2012 I hope I don't get a lot of negs. I was not calling it a bad signing, or that Helm is a bum and not worth it or that Holland should be fired. I was just hoping for less of a cap hit in order to make sure we have the cash to bid high of the players we need to change this team. I am glad Helm is going to be part of that and hope that he signs again in 4 years to a lifetime contract...I just hope that this trend doesn't continue with the overpayment (around the league) because like I said, it's going to ruin the NHL when the Colton Orr's are making $4M soon... That being said, we still have $24M left to spend of Abby, Parise, Suter, Harding & Schultz & Dekeyser & Welsh...so far I haven't lost out on anyone from my wish list! (yet!) Harding's been signed 1 roboturner reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jedi 1,865 Report post Posted June 19, 2012 Harding's been signed 20 minutes AFTER LeftWinger posted the quoted post... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Konnan511 1,736 Report post Posted June 19, 2012 Very good signing. He's going to get you 25 points or more while being an excellent pker and a tenacious forechecker. Good signing Kenny!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
arag 308 Report post Posted June 19, 2012 Thank You Kenny ! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Johnz96 Report post Posted June 19, 2012 20 minutes AFTER LeftWinger posted the quoted post... I wasn't correcting or criticising,... just sayin 1 roboturner reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hooon 1,089 Report post Posted June 19, 2012 I am happy! Four years is definitely worth the extra 100k or so. I have a feeling that in a couple of years this will be considered one of the best contracts on the team. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Red Wings Addict 787 Report post Posted June 19, 2012 For the few who may not quite get the Danger Zone reference, the JLA plays Highway to the Danger Zone every time Helm scores because one of his nicknames in the locker room is Danger obviously because of his speed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites