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#121 kylee

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Posted 04 July 2012 - 04:05 PM

Holland please do not sit on the biggest cap room you've had since there's been a cap. Please.

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Posted 04 July 2012 - 04:08 PM

"Part of this might be that we might have to go with some kids that we think are ready."
-- Ken Holland, Wings general manager, on the future of his team


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Doesn't that imply a forward(s) being traded? The Wings youth is on forward, but the Wings have enough forwards signed. IMO Smith is the only dman ready to make the jump.

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Posted 04 July 2012 - 04:08 PM

This is what I'm praying for (and not expecting) at this point.

CAPGEEK.COM USER GENERATED ROSTER
My Custom Lineup
FORWARDS
Alexander Semin ($6.000m) / Pavel Datsyuk ($6.700m) / Shane Doan ($4.500m)
Johan Franzen ($3.955m) / Henrik Zetterberg ($6.083m) / Bobby Ryan ($5.100m)
Damien Brunner ($1.350m) / Valtteri Filppula ($3.000m) / Mikael Samuelsson ($3.000m)
Jordin Tootoo ($1.900m) / Darren Helm ($2.125m) / Todd Bertuzzi ($2.075m)
Cory Emmerton ($0.533m) / Drew Miller ($0.838m) /
DEFENSEMEN
Niklas Kronwall ($4.750m) / Tobias Enstrom ($3.750m)
Jonathan Ericsson ($3.250m) / Brendan Smith ($0.875m)
Pavel Kubina ($2.500m) / Ian White ($2.875m)
Jakub Kindl ($0.883m) /
GOALTENDERS
Jimmy Howard ($2.250m)
Jonas Gustavsson ($1.500m)
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CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled without the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $70,200,000; CAP PAYROLL: $69,792,045; BONUSES: $425,000
CAP SPACE (23-man roster): $407,955

has us putting Eaves on LTIR and throwing Cleary somewhere (prob in one of the trades). we just have way too many forwards. Nyquist is traded. Abdelkader goes somewhere. I hate that we have Bertuzzi, he just doesn't fit ANYWHERE.

I think our best bet is to just load up on offense at this point because our defense is going to suck no matter what now.

man, that's the most unrealistic roster ever. I have no idea what we trade to get Ryan and Enstrom. We're so screwed.

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Posted 04 July 2012 - 04:10 PM

This is what I'm praying for (and not expecting) at this point.

CAPGEEK.COM USER GENERATED ROSTER
My Custom Lineup
FORWARDS
Alexander Semin ($6.000m) / Pavel Datsyuk ($6.700m) / Shane Doan ($4.500m)
Johan Franzen ($3.955m) / Henrik Zetterberg ($6.083m) / Bobby Ryan ($5.100m)
Damien Brunner ($1.350m) / Valtteri Filppula ($3.000m) / Mikael Samuelsson ($3.000m)
Jordin Tootoo ($1.900m) / Darren Helm ($2.125m) / Todd Bertuzzi ($2.075m)
Cory Emmerton ($0.533m) / Drew Miller ($0.838m) /
DEFENSEMEN
Niklas Kronwall ($4.750m) / Tobias Enstrom ($3.750m)
Jonathan Ericsson ($3.250m) / Brendan Smith ($0.875m)
Pavel Kubina ($2.500m) / Ian White ($2.875m)
Jakub Kindl ($0.883m) /
GOALTENDERS
Jimmy Howard ($2.250m)
Jonas Gustavsson ($1.500m)
------
CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled without the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $70,200,000; CAP PAYROLL: $69,792,045; BONUSES: $425,000
CAP SPACE (23-man roster): $407,955

has us putting Eaves on LTIR and throwing Cleary somewhere (prob in one of the trades). we just have way too many forwards. Nyquist is traded. Abdelkader goes somewhere. I hate that we have Bertuzzi, he just doesn't fit ANYWHERE.

I think our best bet is to just load up on offense at this point because our defense is going to suck no matter what now.

man, that's the most unrealistic roster ever. I have no idea what we trade to get Ryan and Enstrom. We're so screwed.


Utterly unrealistic, but I give you mad props for daring to dream.

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Posted 04 July 2012 - 04:26 PM

I like how LGW makes up these crazy trade scenarios!
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Posted 04 July 2012 - 04:28 PM

Hmm might be time to see what kind of stones Holland has. He didnt overpay the free agents (cant necessarily blame him, he tried), time to overpay for some decently young talent through trades. The prospect pool is rich, and there is a lot of forwards so a couple roster guys can be moved.

I would sign Semin if hes being reasonable price wise, and try to sign a top 4 D (Carle). This gives the flexibility to move someone like Flip or Franzen for and have their scoring replaced by Semin, same with adding Doan.

Theres definitely a trade on the horizon that could see some young talent coming in. There just has to be

Edited by newfy, 04 July 2012 - 04:30 PM.

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Posted 04 July 2012 - 04:29 PM

There haven't been many viable trades proposed here.

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Posted 04 July 2012 - 04:32 PM

There haven't been many viable trades proposed here.


First you have to consider:

A - Do you want to win?

B - Do you want to blow it up and rebuild?

Does that make too much sense?

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Posted 04 July 2012 - 04:40 PM

Dreger suggests we are in on the Nash talk right now
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Posted 04 July 2012 - 04:40 PM

If we end up signing Doan, check out the ages of our top 6:

Doan: 36
Datsyuk: 34
Zetterberg: 32
Franzen: 33
Filppula: 28
Samuelsson: 35

Oh my god. That's horrible depressing, especially when you consider an ancient Bertuzzi is sitting in the bottom 6. At least our defense is young....... except Smith is really the only one with any potential. Kronwall is already 31. Goddamn.

#131 nyqvististhefuture

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Posted 04 July 2012 - 04:47 PM

i just saw darren dregger talking about columbus and nash and how they dont necessarily want just prospects they want hockey players

maybe a franzen,cleary,tatar,kindl and a 1st for rick nash provided we got an understanding shane doan will sign with us to cancel out losing cleary

i know some of you will say franzen is in his 30s and so on but hes a 25-30 goal guy and lets face it no one will trade a star player off there roster for nash , columbus wants couture from sj , wont happen .... im not saying my trade suggestion could be done but its a 4 for 1 deal + the pick and if we sign doan its really a 4 for 2 deal then we'd have to do somethin for a defensemen or 2

If we end up signing Doan, check out the ages of our top 6:

Doan: 36
Datsyuk: 34
Zetterberg: 32
Franzen: 33
Filppula: 28
Samuelsson: 35

Oh my god. That's horrible depressing, especially when you consider an ancient Bertuzzi is sitting in the bottom 6. At least our defense is young....... except Smith is really the only one with any potential. Kronwall is already 31. Goddamn.


i didnt understand when holland signed bertuzzi and now samuelsson they needed to bring in some young guys and put them in and give them experience not put them all in at the same time

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Posted 04 July 2012 - 04:49 PM

heard a rumor that Evander Kane from Winnipeg might be available via trade,

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Posted 04 July 2012 - 05:19 PM

If we end up signing Doan, check out the ages of our top 6:

Doan: 36
Datsyuk: 34
Zetterberg: 32
Franzen: 33
Filppula: 28
Samuelsson: 35

Oh my god. That's horrible depressing, especially when you consider an ancient Bertuzzi is sitting in the bottom 6. At least our defense is young....... except Smith is really the only one with any potential. Kronwall is already 31. Goddamn.


2002
Larionov 41
Chelios 40
Yzerman 37
Hull 37
Hasek 37
Robatille 36
Olausson 35
Shanahan 33
Draper 31
Fedorov 31


The wings have been through this before. In the late '90s, their prospect pool didn't look very deep, but then datsyuk and Zetterberg surprised everyone. They already have some young talent (flip, helm, Miller, Smith, quincey) and a few prospects. As long as a couple prospects turn out we should be fine in the future.

I agree that they shouldn't get Doan, but I'm not that concerned about the future.

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Posted 04 July 2012 - 05:23 PM

2002 was kind of a special situation, don't you think?

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#135 kylee

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Posted 04 July 2012 - 05:24 PM

I also saw a paraphrase that Howson( Columbus) isn't looking for first line players..Holland needs to be ALL over this moreso than Suter and Parise. Nash has added us to his short list when we weren't on it in the beginning. Read between the lines Holland, it may actually be possible to land a guy who is a hockey STUD who really does have legitimate 50 goal capability. Please Kenny, Please go get this guy.

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Posted 04 July 2012 - 05:25 PM

I demand a trade now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Posted 04 July 2012 - 05:29 PM

2002 was kind of a special situation, don't you think?

Definitely, but I'm just saying we aren't screwed for the future.

I also saw a paraphrase that Howson( Columbus) isn't looking for first line players..Holland needs to be ALL over this moreso than Suter and Parise. Nash has added us to his short list when we weren't on it in the beginning. Read between the lines Holland, it may actually be possible to land a guy who is a hockey STUD who really does have legitimate 50 goal capability. Please Kenny, Please go get this guy.

What about a huge trade for Nash and Jack Johnson. It would take a lot though

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Posted 04 July 2012 - 05:31 PM

f*** it lets just put Datsyuk as Defense!
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Posted 04 July 2012 - 06:49 PM

Well, we have to trade now. I don't think there's a high caliber defenseman left in the UFA class. And since we don't even have a full compliment of defensemen, let alone ones who are good enough, we pretty much have to trade now and hope Doan signs with us. There's nothing wrong with Doan, he could help us just as much as Parise...just not long term. But it buys us another year or two. Doan is now the must-sign player, and hopefully he won't just string us along to increase more league interest in him.
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Posted 04 July 2012 - 06:51 PM

Well, we have to trade now. I don't think there's a high caliber defenseman left in the UFA class. And since we don't even have a full compliment of defensemen, let alone ones who are good enough, we pretty much have to trade now and hope Doan signs with us. There's nothing wrong with Doan, he could help us just as much as Parise...just not long term. But it buys us another year or two. Doan is now the must-sign player, and hopefully he won't just string us along to increase more league interest in him.

MLive reports Doans agent has contacted the Wings a few times already.
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Edited by Ozzie30, 04 July 2012 - 06:55 PM.

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