amato 3,210 Report post Posted June 20, 2013 http://www.mlive.com/redwings/index.ssf/2013/06/bad_news_for_detroit_red_wings.html poor bert.. how's he going to score now? "Spin-o-rama in shootouts very likely an illegal play in NHL next season. Change would have to be approved, but strong sense it will be," Dreger Tweeted. "Determining the direction of the puck and goalie contact among reasons for the NHL's consideration of banning the shootout spin-o-rama. thought it was interesting.. figured i'd share. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Datsyukian-Deke 722 Report post Posted June 20, 2013 Everything is getting too technical. It's like the NFL's "completing the process of the catch" rule. Just let em play! 2 55fan and Wingsfan72 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wingsfan72 198 Report post Posted June 20, 2013 What a stupid thing to dedicate thought to. Just get rid of the shootout if they're going to take moves away. I mean what is the point of the shootout anyways, besides entertainment for the fans. The only thing I can understand is contact with the goalie, in which case they could implement a strict "no contact" rule - not ban a specific move. Get rid of the shootout and bring in the 5min 3 on 3 OT, or whatever was being proposed a couple of years (?) ago. 2 hooon and Holmstrom96 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ogreslayer 1,069 Report post Posted June 20, 2013 The one they should make illegal is the Patrick Kane "Come to a complete stop & stick handle for 2 minutes" move 16 Hockeymom1960, thegerkin, LeftWinger and 13 others reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RyanBarnes! 293 Report post Posted June 20, 2013 They are just trying to implement as many changes as possible. What a joke. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VM1138 1,921 Report post Posted June 20, 2013 Easy fix: 10 seconds to make one shot of any kind. No restrictions or super technical rules. Or, get rid of the shootout. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Datsyukian-Deke 722 Report post Posted June 20, 2013 New rule: in order to score a shootout goal a player must 1) skate through a series of ten cones 2) skate around a midget balancing 5 plates without making him drop any. 3) jump through a ring of fire 4) limbo under a pole 5) and then put the puck in the net. 3 thegerkin, matthewdanna and 55fan reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BottleOfSmoke 5,965 Report post Posted June 20, 2013 Here NHL, I've fixed it for you: "NHL Considering Ban on Shootout." Ahhh, much better. 7 Ram, Wingsfan72, Ally and 4 others reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nev 1,085 Report post Posted June 20, 2013 10 mins of 4on4 first please. 1 MabusIncarnate reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rrasco 1,312 Report post Posted June 20, 2013 I don't have a problem with this. Was it Raymond that had that ridiculous one this year? Although, there should be a time limit or something to stop Kane's joke of a 'shot'. The concept of a SO is to simulate a breakaway, Kane wouldn't get away with that on a breakaway, he'd get destroyed. Maybe they should let the shooter get a slight head start and put a dman out there to chase him down. That would make the SO a little more interesting. 2 55fan and thegerkin reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StormJH1 231 Report post Posted June 20, 2013 (edited) Shootouts are a ridiculous skill competition with no actual correlation to team skill or the ebb and flow of a hockey game. However, if the league is going to keep them, this rule sort of had to happen. Two plays this year forced their hand: (Burrows) (Daugavins) Basically, when you introduce a gimmick into the game and players start interpreting the rules so carefully as to make said gimmick jump the shark, you have to make changes. You can pretend a guy skating in, making a deke or two and firing is analogous to an actual hockey game. Neither of these plays (which were both technically legal) conveys a similar delusion. A 10-second time limit really wouldn't stop the madness. Pavol Demitra used to come in really slow from a wide angle (even off of the strip of freshly Zamboni-ed ice) for his attempts. Variety in shootout attempts is "desirable", but there have to be some rules or it appears even more arbitrary than it already is. Edited June 20, 2013 by StormJH1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BottleOfSmoke 5,965 Report post Posted June 20, 2013 Maybe they should let the shooter get a slight head start and put a dman out there to chase him down. That would make the SO a little more interesting. I've always been intrigued with this idea, it would certainly stop the fancy shots no one would ever try on a breakaway. But what happens if your DMan gets a penalty? Penalty shot? 2 Hockeymom1960 and thegerkin reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ogreslayer 1,069 Report post Posted June 20, 2013 New rule: in order to score a shootout goal a player must 1) skate through a series of ten cones 2) skate around a midget balancing 5 plates without making him drop any. 3) jump through a ring of fire 4) limbo under a pole 5) and then put the puck in the net. So that means Bettman has to be at all games in case of a shootout? 2 Datsyukian-Deke and thegerkin reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BottleOfSmoke 5,965 Report post Posted June 20, 2013 So that means Bettman has to be at all games in case of a shootout? A. No way Bettman could balance 5 plates, and B. He would drop plates on purpose in order to influence who wins. Just sayin'. 5 Hockeymom1960, thegerkin, matthewdanna and 2 others reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hooon 1,089 Report post Posted June 20, 2013 The one they should make illegal is the Patrick Kane "Come to a complete stop & stick handle for 2 minutes" move Came here to post this. Kane's shootout goals are beyond stupid. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hockey&beer 16 Report post Posted June 20, 2013 I all reality, the spin-o-rama is, technically, already illegal in shootouts. The shooter is required maintain forward momentum, clearly that cannot happen. Just sayin' Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
amato 3,210 Report post Posted June 20, 2013 I all reality, the spin-o-rama is, technically, already illegal in shootouts. The shooter is required maintain forward momentum, clearly that cannot happen. Just sayin' pretty sure the rule is that the puck has to maintain forward momentum, not the player.. and that is possible while spinning. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wingsfan72 198 Report post Posted June 20, 2013 New rule: in order to score a shootout goal a player must 1) skate through a series of ten cones 2) skate around a midget balancing 5 plates without making him drop any. 3) jump through a ring of fire 4) limbo under a pole 5) and then put the puck in the net. Pav could do it... 2 LidsFan and Hockeymom1960 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ram 240 Report post Posted June 20, 2013 Can't lie and say shootouts aren't exciting but as a purist I'd rather see them go. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
frankgrimes 1,836 Report post Posted June 20, 2013 So instead of getting rid off the skill competition known as shootout, they are now going to dictate the moves? This is beyond stupid. Either get rid off the thing or if not, don't touch it no need to get overly technical. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dirtydangles 1,328 Report post Posted June 20, 2013 Its a team sport - individuals should not decide the fate of the game at the end. It favours teams that are built on skill rather than grittiness and teams that have amazing goaltenders rather than great team defense to prevent goals. I bet you could use stats and predict fairly effectively the efficiency of teams in shootouts. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wingsfan72 198 Report post Posted June 20, 2013 I've always thought OT should be decided by 5 on 5 street hockey in the parking lot. First team to ten wins, win by 2. (man, the offseason is boring before July) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aznknight 139 Report post Posted June 20, 2013 I say they have a fightout. Two, one minute bouts. That's 1/2 of a point and shootouts is another 1/2. Both teams have to pick the fighters AND the shooters. So if we play the hawks babcock can pick Kane to fight and quenville will maybe pick datsyuk. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
55fan 5,133 Report post Posted June 20, 2013 Really? What next? NHL bans coloured mouthguards? I agree with whomever it was back there who said, "Just let 'em play." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kipwinger 8,524 Report post Posted June 20, 2013 I love the shootout but hate the spinorama. Not too disappointed if this happens, but would hate to see the SO go. Who doesn't like watching Pav undress goalies after a grueling 60 minutes? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites